Should I get an early oil change (to be pro-active)?
12-22-2017, 10:00 AM
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Should I get an early oil change (to be pro-active)?
My dealer offers $24.95 oil changes for "as long as I own the car" - I'm at about 550 miles on my 2018 V6 TLX, I was wondering should I get an oil change? Car manufacturers used to recommend one early oil change after the car is "broken in", but they don't anymore? Do you think there could be any benefit if I want to be careful and take good care of the engine?
Also, is it too early to be using Sport+ mode on the highway and letting the "close to redline" shifts happen? I think some people would say to wait until ~1,000 or 1,500 miles to run the car WOT?
Also, is it too early to be using Sport+ mode on the highway and letting the "close to redline" shifts happen? I think some people would say to wait until ~1,000 or 1,500 miles to run the car WOT?
12-22-2017, 10:04 AM
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The short answer to your question is, "Hell No".
Most manufacturers these days use a special set of assembly lubricants and pastes during the manufacturing process, and these pastes and lubricants are then mixed with the factory fill of oil; the combination of the two effectively works as a break-in oil. Honda is known to be one of the most aggressive manufacturers when it comes to discouraging early oil changes during the first oil change interval; long story short, don't change your oil until the oil monitor says you are nearing the first oil change.
Most manufacturers these days use a special set of assembly lubricants and pastes during the manufacturing process, and these pastes and lubricants are then mixed with the factory fill of oil; the combination of the two effectively works as a break-in oil. Honda is known to be one of the most aggressive manufacturers when it comes to discouraging early oil changes during the first oil change interval; long story short, don't change your oil until the oil monitor says you are nearing the first oil change.
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12-22-2017, 12:02 PM
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The short answer to your question is, "Hell No".
Most manufacturers these days use a special set of assembly lubricants and pastes during the manufacturing process, and these pastes and lubricants are then mixed with the factory fill of oil; the combination of the two effectively works as a break-in oil. Honda is known to be one of the most aggressive manufacturers when it comes to discouraging early oil changes during the first oil change interval; long story short, don't change your oil until the oil monitor says you are nearing the first oil change.
Most manufacturers these days use a special set of assembly lubricants and pastes during the manufacturing process, and these pastes and lubricants are then mixed with the factory fill of oil; the combination of the two effectively works as a break-in oil. Honda is known to be one of the most aggressive manufacturers when it comes to discouraging early oil changes during the first oil change interval; long story short, don't change your oil until the oil monitor says you are nearing the first oil change.
12-22-2017, 12:45 PM
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Agree with horseshoez on the assembly additive package. Its always been in there but is changed through the magic of chemistry. Companies used to use a high dosage of Molybdenum Disulphide Lubricant Paste.AKA Molly paste. The old formulations of this stuff would plug up the oil filer pretty quickly so you need to get it out in around 500 miles or so.
That is no longer true with the packages they use today on most motors. I was still using the old style paste when I was building engines but you can now buy break-in oil at the auto store.
1200-1500 miles staying out of WOT is a good plan. BMW's official number is 1200 miles. I would use all the gear options but keep the REV's under 3500. It lets everything wear in & seat nicely without any high load stress. Thing to remember is you are not only breaking in the engine but evert moving part in the car.
As for shifting at red line I would fine a dyno graph of the engine & plan my shift points from that. Very seldom is red line the best place to shift.
Extra useless factoid. The hand assembled BMW "M" motors get a 500 mile mandatory oil change so they must still be putting the paste on those engines.
That is no longer true with the packages they use today on most motors. I was still using the old style paste when I was building engines but you can now buy break-in oil at the auto store.
1200-1500 miles staying out of WOT is a good plan. BMW's official number is 1200 miles. I would use all the gear options but keep the REV's under 3500. It lets everything wear in & seat nicely without any high load stress. Thing to remember is you are not only breaking in the engine but evert moving part in the car.
As for shifting at red line I would fine a dyno graph of the engine & plan my shift points from that. Very seldom is red line the best place to shift.
Extra useless factoid. The hand assembled BMW "M" motors get a 500 mile mandatory oil change so they must still be putting the paste on those engines.
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12-22-2017, 01:35 PM
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12-22-2017, 01:38 PM
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You can pretty much run red line all day on most Honda engines without impacting them to any negative degree. Long story short, follow the Oil Life Maintenance (OLM) system.
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12-22-2017, 03:57 PM
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What is the break-in period of my Acura?
Help assure your vehicle's future reliability and performance by paying extra attention to how you drive during the first 600 miles (1,000 kilometers). During this period:
- Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration.
- Avoid hard braking. New brakes need to be broken in by moderate use for the first 200 miles (300 km).
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As for break-in its just like the tire pressure sticker on the door or the fuel octane sticker near the filler cap. Best to do what they tell you. I am not in the business of out guessing the engineers who designed the car. Not all the numbers will match brand to brand. My BMW was 1200 miles as were the ones before it. The COYOTE was 1000 miles. They also have different oil change cycles. 3 different BMW engines, 3 different oil change cycles in 4 cars.
Running it like you stole it is a big reason you don't really want to buy a demo car. Also why they have big discounts. You pay your money & take your chances.
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