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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 12:47 AM
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Prototype versus Production Comments.

I saw the prototype in person and just recently [finally] saw the production model in person. The prototype model really hurts my feelings when it comes to the rear bumper. Does anyone else feel the same way? They completely obliterated any of the sexiness that was in the bumper.






And there is something different with the trunk too.
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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The back is not that impressive. I agree.

My big frustration is the lack of that awesome red color.
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 11:01 PM
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If only I could get those prototype 5-spoke wheels on the i4 Tech. I dream...
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 11:20 PM
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Yeah...the prototype looks better then the production model. Its to be expected from Acura IMO. I never paid attention to the 4G prototype, but most folks remember the 3G A-Spec prototype. The production model 3G was pretty conservative compared to its prototype...


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Its got that Hi rise CSL style trunk spoiler just like the TLX prototype.

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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 11:24 PM
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I'm glad they didn't go after that TL prototype, at least in the rear!

Just seems so strange to me they don't offer what they really can sell. Why add weird hype when there's nothing holding them back from producing what they prototype? <rant>especially that red!</rant>
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 04:17 AM
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To be fair, most the 3G A-spec concept's features eventually showed up on the 07-08 TL-S. Not sure I have the patience to wait until the TLX MMC for the prototype features to finally show up though
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 07:46 AM
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As much as I would like to buy a TLX right now, I am going to be patient and wait until MMY refresh, which should be the 2018 model, our 2011 MDX only has 12k miles. I only see the TLX getting better in the future.....wheels, Advance package with I4, possibly a turbo I4, exhaust tips? And of course we can see how the new DI motors and transmissions are holding up.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ACCURATEin
I saw the prototype in person and just recently [finally] saw the production model in person. The prototype model really hurts my feelings when it comes to the rear bumper. Does anyone else feel the same way? They completely obliterated any of the sexiness that was in the bumper.

And there is something different with the trunk too.
Not the same angle, not the same camera height, not the same camera effects. Apple to orange comparison. Fair comparison obliterated.

See here https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=62

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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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true, but the red paint and wheels not being offered is a valid complaint. Unless its coming for type-S? heh heh
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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And there's the rub...

The prototype, aside from the side-view mirrors and regional lighting tweaks (i.e. amber n the shell of the headlights), was is *the* best looking Acura vehicle since the 3G TL, which I owned, liked, and drove to ~140,000 miles.

This car was made for me. I'm that guy that hated the 4G and went elsewhere.

I now have a Q5 (love it as well), and upon seeing the TLX thought -- for the first time in a long time -- I might be coming back to the stable. And then:

They nixed the big / awesome rims.
They nixed the tail end charisma and changed the trunk lid.
They nixed the chrome accents on the front end.
They nixed the fantastic red they had at the auto shows.

4 grand to upgrade to rims that look like they fit the car? An aero kit that looks like it was tacked on by a 17 year old with glue rather than separate panels and bumpers? I'm sorry, but as a division if Acura wants to differentiate themselves from Honda they actually need to do some things that aren't part of their Honda DNA. Bigger wheels. AWD as their base models (like Audi) to break the RWD stigma. Navi displays and buttons that aren't used in Honda's already.

Gah...they could have had me. Now - S5 or wait for new A4/A5 in a bit unless I'm floored when I see it in person.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by silverTL6
To be fair, most the 3G A-spec concept's features eventually showed up on the 07-08 TL-S.


They did?
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Seems like if you show something off to get people excited and you can build what you show, you should? Make things BETTER than you promote so people aren't disappointed.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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Might be leaving room for a Type S version. Or just for the mod community to wrap the car in some blood red vinyl and do some bumper mods.

All I can say is that the TLX makes it great for people wanting a grown up car and is great for the modders here to make it look absolutely evil with just a few addons. Best of both worlds.

That's one of the reasons why the C7 Vette is not going to be great for anyone who wants to make it look any different. The car is so aggressive out the factory doors there's really nothing much one can do there.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by schalliol
Seems like if you show something off to get people excited and you can build what you show, you should? Make things BETTER than you promote so people aren't disappointed.
.....and those sad 55-series high profile 17-in tires on the i-4? Heck, even the Honda Civic Si sedan has low profile 225/40R18 tires, and most Accord models come with 55-series tires on 17-in rims. The Accord Sport has 45-series w/ 18-in rims. etc. etc. etc.

When the TLX prototype was revealed, I was all but certain that I was looking at my next car knowing that, as always, the production model would not be identical to the prototype. Then the real deal came out......and those hideous 17-in rims! And no fog lights standard across the board??? WTF? No way we should have to shell out thousands to put decent tires/wheels and fogs that should've been standard to begin with!
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 04:33 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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Yesterday and today I sat here and looked at the photos of the rear bumper to try and figure out what needs to be done to get it looking decent. I would paint the rear section between the reflectors black. I'm working on a photoshop of it and it looks so much better. It's a really good looking car. It's just a damn shame it is hidden. (the front grille and rear bumper)
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nttstt444
They did?
clear/amber turn signals? check
black housing headlights? check
larger front grille? check
honeycomb grille mesh? check
silver lower grille strakes? check
gray housing tail lamps with clear cover? check
rear lip spoiler? check
rear bumper diffuser? check
waffle style wheels? check
aggressive exhaust tips? check
flared side skirts? check
multi-stitched door panel liners? check
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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Literally nothing on the 3g prototype carried over to the type s. Im not sure how you drew that conclusion. The wheels, side skirts, tail lights , interior, grill , etc..pretty much everything you mentioned is wildly different on the 2 cars except the headlights I suppose ,those are similar.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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there was no type-s version of the 2nd gen TSX and there was no type-s Version of the 4th gen TL.

im willing to bet they dont offer a type-s for the TLX
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 02:17 PM
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Well the concept 3g was very different from the production model. That is not true in the case of the TLX. Same lines and styles. Just subdued a little. Although any guessing we do now is speculation at best.
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Old Aug 13, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
there was no type-s version of the 2nd gen TSX and there was no type-s Version of the 4th gen TL.

im willing to bet they dont offer a type-s for the TLX

Same thoughts here. I think acura has long since been done with the type s trim, it died with the 3g tl. Sure, there may be a 'sport' trim someday but I doubt it will be called type s.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nttstt444
Literally nothing on the 3g prototype carried over to the type s. Im not sure how you drew that conclusion. The wheels, side skirts, tail lights , interior, grill , etc..pretty much everything you mentioned is wildly different on the 2 cars except the headlights I suppose ,those are similar.
The Type-S maintained the look and theme of those prototype parts. Sure, they aren't exactly the same (probably due to production constraints, safety regulations, and other reality checks) but they're a much closer match than the prototype vs. production TLX. The TLX aero kit tries to fill this void, but comes nowhere close since the Type-S had real bumper replacements that didn't look tacked on.

Originally Posted by justnspace
there was no type-s version of the 2nd gen TSX and there was no type-s Version of the 4th gen TL.

im willing to bet they dont offer a type-s for the TLX
The TSX SE and TL SH-AWD 6MT were Type-S's in spirit, since the former was based on the Euro Accord Type-S while the latter was confirmed by Acura as being the 3G Type-S' replacement. Why they chose to forego the Type-S name itself will forever be a mystery
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 03:00 AM
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How are these "wildly different" again?








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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by silverTL6


The TSX SE and TL SH-AWD 6MT were Type-S's in spirit, since the former was based on the Euro Accord Type-S while the latter was confirmed by Acura as being the 3G Type-S' replacement. Why they chose to forego the Type-S name itself will forever be a mystery
the SE's werent type-s'.... the 4th gen TL came out with a Special Edition and there was nothing special about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
red stitching. oh wow. so much wow.

and sure, the shawd 6mt is in spirit a type-s....but not an actual type-s.


c'mon man.

that's the same thing they'll do for the TLX.
SE's that provide a badge and red stitching....

and we already know the SHAWD version is coming out, but it's not the type-s

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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by silverTL6
How are these "wildly different" again?


Your really reaching man, c'mon. We'll have to agree to disagree I suppose.
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Old Aug 14, 2014 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
the SE's werent type-s'.... the 4th gen TL came out with a Special Edition and there was nothing special about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
red stitching. oh wow. so much wow.

and sure, the shawd 6mt is in spirit a type-s....but not an actual type-s.


c'mon man.

that's the same thing they'll do for the TLX.
SE's that provide a badge and red stitching....

and we already know the SHAWD version is coming out, but it's not the type-s
If their naming schemes were more consistent, I'm sure the SH-AWD 6MT would've been called the Type-S given that it had an upgraded engine, different tailpipes, more seat bolstering, etc. Didn't mention the TL SE or TLX SH-AWD since neither of those had 6MT's or offered anything unique vs. their counterparts (other than the AWD).

But yeah, Type-S wouldn't have worked on the TSX SE since it didn't get a better engine. For the Euro Accord it made sense since the base models were diesel and an N/A 2.0 IIRC.

Originally Posted by nttstt444
Your really reaching man, c'mon. We'll have to agree to disagree I suppose.
I suppose it's all subjective, but yeah I rest my case

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