Acura TLX V6 Under Stop Sale and Recall Notice (transmission problem)?
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Agreed. I received a recall letter and it said that they will send me another letter when they are available to repair the vehicle. So I anticipate that a city/dealer will have the equipment for a few weeks and will notify owners 1-2 months in advance to group appointments into that window and maximize the use of the equipment. If a problem is found I would not be surprised if the actual repair was scheduled for a few weeks later when a replacement transmission is available.
Note: This is pure speculation, but it seems to be the practical approach.
Note: This is pure speculation, but it seems to be the practical approach.
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I am more interested in how Acura Canada may respond to my questions about why the first two shifts in the 9 are noticeable and the others are not. Sometimes, I can feather the throttle to the point where they're okay, other times, not so much. It seems to me that slow acceleration and rapid acceleration from a stopped position create the most noticeable shifts. Whereas if you find the middle sweet spot they seem smoother. I may be over analyzing this, something that I have suggested others do too much of.
Right now, I think this one issue is what separates and an excellent car from being a GREAT car.
Right now, I think this one issue is what separates and an excellent car from being a GREAT car.
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My theory is that because the torque multiplication is highest in lower gears, more drivetrain lash is felt. Maybe the difference in feel at different throttle openings is somehow related to the variable dampening motor mounts?
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Interesting theory. In a related thread someone posted the following:
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"Invoice said, " need DPSM 4220 straight time authorization. Reset idle learn and pattern learn - reprogrammed module"
Sorry, that's all they said. And yes, the car already had the ECU / NAV software installed when I got it.
2-3 is still hard in my opinion as mentioned, but much better, and I'm hoping that some miles will smooth it out further.
Also, I noticed no difference before and now in the shift roughness regardless of IDS setting - i.e. normal or sport".
It would seem that there is a software fix/improvement. I am dealing with Acura Canada on this issue and forwarded the same information to them. Apparently in his case Acura had to approve the Dealer's re-programming.
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"Invoice said, " need DPSM 4220 straight time authorization. Reset idle learn and pattern learn - reprogrammed module"
Sorry, that's all they said. And yes, the car already had the ECU / NAV software installed when I got it.
2-3 is still hard in my opinion as mentioned, but much better, and I'm hoping that some miles will smooth it out further.
Also, I noticed no difference before and now in the shift roughness regardless of IDS setting - i.e. normal or sport".
It would seem that there is a software fix/improvement. I am dealing with Acura Canada on this issue and forwarded the same information to them. Apparently in his case Acura had to approve the Dealer's re-programming.
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Per Acura, TSB 14-050 is expected to be updated from its current temporary version to the final version, which will include complete inspection and flushing procedures, on or before February 23rd. Affected vehicle owners should be receiving a notification letter starting this week with the latest information.
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I received a letter today that said I should call any authorized Acura dealer to make an appointment on or after Feb. 23. They said the complete inspection and repair time may take an hour.
However I also received another recall notice regarding the Cross-Traffic Monitoring system - No Audible Alert. The dealer will update the combination meter unit software. Please plan to leave your vehicle at the dealer for ONE FULL DAY to allow them flexibility in scheduling. What??
However I also received another recall notice regarding the Cross-Traffic Monitoring system - No Audible Alert. The dealer will update the combination meter unit software. Please plan to leave your vehicle at the dealer for ONE FULL DAY to allow them flexibility in scheduling. What??
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I received a letter today that said I should call any authorized Acura dealer to make an appointment on or after Feb. 23. They said the complete inspection and repair time may take an hour.
However I also received another recall notice regarding the Cross-Traffic Monitoring system - No Audible Alert. The dealer will update the combination meter unit software. Please plan to leave your vehicle at the dealer for ONE FULL DAY to allow them flexibility in scheduling. What??![what](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/what.gif)
However I also received another recall notice regarding the Cross-Traffic Monitoring system - No Audible Alert. The dealer will update the combination meter unit software. Please plan to leave your vehicle at the dealer for ONE FULL DAY to allow them flexibility in scheduling. What??
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I don't understand this at all. I believe the repair for the park issue involves replacing the transmission, and that takes only an hour, but updating software requires a full day? I'm not sure I even need/want this done.
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^^ I think you have the wrong idea of what is going to happen. Generally, nobody is getting a replacement transmission sense few, if any, have been shown to exhibit the problem. What you are getting is an expection of your transmission to verify that it is not affected, nor will it be, going forward. This inspection should take about a half hour to complete but clearly they want to inspect as many as possible at the same time.
The navigation system update actually takes longer because once the software update is done, it needs to... well, I'm not sure. However whatever it is, it takes about three hours with the engine running.
The navigation system update actually takes longer because once the software update is done, it needs to... well, I'm not sure. However whatever it is, it takes about three hours with the engine running.
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https://acurazine.com/forums/audio-b...l-mean-923320/
You should be able to get car back earlier if you need to as the update can be done in the background whenever the car is on.
#331
This is true, and we've heard of people with this happening. However, if it were up to me, I'd want it done before the customer took it home to make sure it's all working right. After all, we'd only see another post about how it didn't work and you needed to take it back AGAIN.
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I feel the need...
Finally received recall notice on tran today. Will take it in along with first free oil change, software update for audio/nav along with addressing the annoying chirping sound coming from the head unit.
Our MDX has the same strange chirping sound but its even worse in the TLX.![Annoyed](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/annoyed.gif)
Also forgot the VCM vibration too...
Our MDX has the same strange chirping sound but its even worse in the TLX.
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Also forgot the VCM vibration too...
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Got my recall notice today, as well. Guess I'll give them a buzz tomorrow.
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Per Acura, TSB 14-050 is expected to be updated from its current temporary version to the final version, which will include complete inspection and flushing procedures, on or before February 23rd. Affected vehicle owners should be receiving a notification letter starting this week with the latest information.
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I'm curious to see if it is the same procedure that the "Acura Teams" did in December during the stop sale, or if there is a different procedure for the cars already out on the road. Do they still use the mega expensive camera scopes- and if so, do all the dealers get to keep or just borrow one??
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Are you able to post a .pdf link with the updated info to the Garage soon??
I'm curious to see if it is the same procedure that the "Acura Teams" did in December during the stop sale, or if there is a different procedure for the cars already out on the road. Do they still use the mega expensive camera scopes- and if so, do all the dealers get to keep or just borrow one??
I'm curious to see if it is the same procedure that the "Acura Teams" did in December during the stop sale, or if there is a different procedure for the cars already out on the road. Do they still use the mega expensive camera scopes- and if so, do all the dealers get to keep or just borrow one??
Heads up that the TSB file is now large, as the update contains videos for various portions.
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^^ Thanks EE4Life for posting this so quickly!
I think I'm going to wait a little and let my dealer practice this procedure on a few other cars first!
It's interesting that this procedure doesn't use the expensive camera that the Acura teams used during the stop sale inspections. I don't know what different things those "teams" did, or if they flushed all the trannies then, too. Or if those previously inspected cars are now being recalled, too, to flush out possible debris.
Since this recall seems to be related to an issue of when the "electric park release shaft" was installed (broken during assembly, or metal chips created during assembly)- and considering that this electronic "feature" is unique to Acura- was this an "Acura" assembly problem, or a "ZF" assembly problem; i.e. who ultimately is going to be responsible for this recall, Acura or ZF ???
I think I'm going to wait a little and let my dealer practice this procedure on a few other cars first!
It's interesting that this procedure doesn't use the expensive camera that the Acura teams used during the stop sale inspections. I don't know what different things those "teams" did, or if they flushed all the trannies then, too. Or if those previously inspected cars are now being recalled, too, to flush out possible debris.
Since this recall seems to be related to an issue of when the "electric park release shaft" was installed (broken during assembly, or metal chips created during assembly)- and considering that this electronic "feature" is unique to Acura- was this an "Acura" assembly problem, or a "ZF" assembly problem; i.e. who ultimately is going to be responsible for this recall, Acura or ZF ???
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Step one is to place car in Park with electronic brake NOT activated. If tech can roll car while in P then tranny will be replcaed. If not, the full flush and refill of fluid. Car is being doen today. The first customer TLX my dealer has diagnosed - probably not a good thing.
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^^The same or fewer. It was clearly something bad, but in the end, as close to a non-issue as an automaker could have.
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