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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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For you skeptics..........I hate to tell you "I told you so"....Available here, of course......
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Beautiful..


...and the no rinse is nice too.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Interesting. There is obviously a limit to how dirty your car can be and use this product. However, during the summer I may wash my car only once or twice. California summers are really dry. This would be a good step to use in between washes.

By the way, Exceldetail, do you have microfiber towels as large as in that video? That microfiber looked to be as large as a normal bath towel.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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if it's good enough for that ferrari, it's good enough for us, lol.

i'm still working on the original jug i got from excel. i use it for some quick washes and as a detailer. stuff is awesome.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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sweet ponytail.....

ONR is awesome.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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ONR is indeed great stuff. My car gets pretty dirty sitting out uncovered and I simply use a little more product with two buckets of water and it gets the car amazingly clean.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Im happy to have been able to have brought it you you folks! Im glad you all approve!
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SweetJazz
Interesting. There is obviously a limit to how dirty your car can be and use this product. However, during the summer I may wash my car only once or twice. California summers are really dry. This would be a good step to use in between washes.

By the way, Exceldetail, do you have microfiber towels as large as in that video? That microfiber looked to be as large as a normal bath towel.


I wash nearly every week with ONR and wash traditionally once a month, no matter the season. ONR is great for washing, but its also great as a clay lube too.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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I wash nearly every week with ONR and wash traditionally once a month, no matter the season. ONR is great for washing, but its also great as a clay lube too.
about using the ONR as a lube for claying.

And joe, not all of us have as much free time as you.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
about using the ONR as a lube for claying.

And joe, not all of us have as much free time as you.
That's too bad

But cmon, only 2 times during the entire summer? My car would be covered in filth if I did that. It takes me less then an hour to do a quick wash. Might want to loosen up your schedule
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Jazz, are you sure its not a ww??
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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I was planning on getting this for the winter washes that can't be done in Chicago (seeing as how I can't keep the hose hooked up in the winter, haha). After seeing this, how easy it was, and how well it worked (granted, the car was not covered in the usual winter salt we see here), I'm SOLD. I'll be getting some with my next order...I see more and more sites carrying this too!
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Theres actually a article in the NY Times scheduled for release Oct 24. In the Automotive section.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Hey everyone, just wanted to update everyone on this great product. I ordered it a few weeks ago and was eager to use it. But, I wanted to truley wait till it was too cold to use the hose. So, what better day than tonight when the temperatures are below freezing and it's dark out. I recently polished / sealed the car, so a lot of dust accumulated the past few days. I tried this out and was very impressed with the results. No water marks, no streaking, etc. However, to point out I did use "Filtered Water" with the mix. I also used a sprayer like the one Pat sells on ExcelDetail.com, which is the way to go, IMO.

Highly reccomended for those in rough winter climates!!!
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Glad you agree Steve! Kudos on the pretreating also.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Anyone know if this can handle the salt on the car during winter?

Or is it just for when the car is somewhat dirty....
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Very impressed with this optimum stuff.. I really need to start taking care of my car more, washing/cleaning/polishing it wise

Like CrazySellout asked..Is this for a weeklly wash where the car is somewhat dirty or after it rains, and you drive through mud and leaves..like my car is riht now
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Anyone know if this can handle the salt on the car during winter?

Or is it just for when the car is somewhat dirty....
I used it on a Boxster with 2 years worth of dirt and grime on it and the car looked stunning afterwards. I would think that it would be fine to handle the salt. I would recommend using one of the sprayers that ExcelDetail sells to pre-rinse with a ONR solution, but otherwise, you should be fine.
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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Maybe this will provide you an answer. A word to the photographer should he read this thread. " I hope you dont mind me borrowing this array of pics, but I dont know your user name, therefore I didnt know where to go to ask for your blessing. I simply found them stunning at the time. I saved them in one of my NRWS folders for times "such as these". The attached photos are of his vehicle with road salt accumulation. I HIGHLY recommend pretreating with a sprayer beforehand. i use them all the time, and am no where near as dirty as this car.
Optimum NRWS is certainly a product which has changed the way the DIY'r as well as detail and auto enthusiast cares for their cars!




There was no work performed to this car at the time of wash, other then a two bucket (Obvious reasons) method, and 1oz:1Gl NRWS to water ratios.....Sheepskin WM if I remember correctly, and a waffle weave drying towel.

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Old Nov 18, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Wow..I have to order this stuff soon

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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I finally got around to trying my NRWS, along with the "pre-spray" technique mentioned by Patrick. My car wasn't very dirty to begin with, but the results were very satisfactory. I preferred the results of NRWS to the Freedom One spray due to the lack of a filmy residue left when using F1.

I felt like I spent more time actually washing the car than when I use the normal bucket and hose method in the driveway. When washing and drying a car in sections, it takes longer. For my car, I ended up needing more than one waffle-weave drying towel to complete the job.

I found there was a lot of solution left in the bucket after I was done. Since my car wasn't all that dirty and I started a second drying towel, I washed my wife's car, too.

Even then, there was plenty of solution left, so it really does cut down on water use. You probably don't want to go too low, or you'll start washing one car with your other car's dirt. Still, compared to the usual 2 bucket outdoor carwash method, I used less water washing 2 cars with NRWS than I did for one with the classic wash-n-rinse..

It was strange to wash 2 cars in my garage. A little messy between the sprayer and the washmitt. Now I won't have to rush home to wash my car before the sun sets. Weather permitting, I suppose one could do this outdoors and still enjoy the slice of life that walks and drives by.

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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OMG i'm sold.......
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Rob, if your in a cool shaded area, you can wash the enitre car before drying......(just a little tip)
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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In post #20, thats what my car looks like every winter.... for 90% of the time.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Rob, if your in a cool shaded area, you can wash the enitre car before drying......(just a little tip)
Thats what I do. I douse the entire car with NRWS, then wipe down with a ww towel or 2 or 3, depending on how dirty. Dousing the car allows it to dwell a bit to loosen up any stuck on gook. Then I go over the car again with a qd'er and another ww towel if Im not going to do anything else to it. Other wise I'd just commence with the claying after the first wipe down.
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Rob, if your in a cool shaded area, you can wash the enitre car before drying......(just a little tip)
Thanks. I'll have to give that a try. The garage is kind of tight for getting around (I can't walk around each end of the car).

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Thumbs up Optimum NWRS In Action!

Ok everyone, here's Optimum NRWS in action. This is on the '07 Honda Pilot, Red Cherry Pearl. It was actualy dirtier than it looks in the pictures - you can tell mostly on the back hatch how dirty it was.

It was about 22 degrees out that day. So, this is a great product for those in winter climates that experience extremely cold winters. I usually move the vehicle in the garage about an hour before starting (I park the TL inside, so it's usually warm enough when I do the TL). I also run a small space heater, which really makes quite a difference.

I also use a 1 gal. mister like the one shown here, as a pre-treat, which I highly recommend (available at Exceldetail.com).

OVERALL I am THOROUGHLY impressed with this product



Here's the pics...

Rear Driver Side BEFORE:


Rear Driver Side AFTER:


Rear Hatch BEFORE:


Rear Hatch AFTER:


Rear Passenger Side BEFORE:


Rear Passenger Side AFTER:


Final Shot from the front AFTER:
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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WORD, I just purchased some NRWS tonight, hope to try it on my blk TL.

Ooooooo and it's 18degree's here
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Yeah, it's been pretty frickin cold around here lately.

You'll really like it. I use it on my CGP TL and all 3 times I've used it so far, I've been very happy with the results, especially compared to job you can usually do in the winter, ya know?

Did you get Pat's Black Friday special? I'm wondering how the OptiSeal is going to be? But, Im gonna wait till the Spring once I polish again since I already have the two coats of FS UPP on it right now.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Steve, I just purchased the 1 QT bottle and 1 5.5 Orange pad.

I dont need any more sealants, I have 2 bottles of DG 105, 1 bottle of 111, and 1 bottle of 101. I'm good for a while.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Ah, you seem to be a fan of DG, huh Andy? I've never used it.

I got my stuff from Pat today, never ordered from him yet. I'd recommend him if you're looking for quick shipping (since you're basically just above me geographically), it was better than other sites based out in CA. Shipped via FedEx. Can't wait to use some of my new stuff, although most of it will be in the Spring (I got Optimum NRWS, Opti-Seal, Nattys Blue Paste Wax, Sheepskin mit, free Microfiber mit, a polishing towel, a buffing towel).
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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DG is easily available and so far I've been completely satisfied with durability and ease of use. I did order from pat two days ago. I'll be using two bucket method and probably a spray bottle that i'll get from my local hardware store. And a the Greek Sponge from Home Depot, they are suppose to be pretty good. And retails under 2.00!

Seriously go find a Car Quest and purchase at least a bottle of Duragloss AquaWax, you will then be impressed.

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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^^^

Well, it's supposed to be readily available, haha. I went to check out our local Carquest, which consisted of 1 or 2 bottles MAX of each product, just covered in dust, who knows how old they were. I think I need to check out a bigger one. I also went to a NAPA, they didn't have anything either.

Anyway, back on topic; I just did the TL with the NWRS tonight - once again it came out great! I think I'm gonna love having a clean car all winter long. I used to HATE having that CGSP (Carbon Gray Salt Pearl) look all winter long...may car will once again be back to CGP
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by steve9207
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I think I'm gonna love having a clean car all winter long. I used to HATE having that CGSP (Carbon Gray Salt Pearl) look all winter long...may car will once again be back to CGP
We may just hold you to that performing spot checks with Santas elves..........
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^^^

Haha, it will be clean. How could I let a 3.5 month old TL, freshly coated with FS UPP go dirty all winter!!!
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When you guys use the mister are you generously spraying the entire car and then just going over all the car with the WW to both dry it and remove the grime at the same time?

Thanks, Giff
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Giff, generously spraying, but using a bucket as well, with either a Grecian Sponge or Sheepskin washmit.....
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by giff74
When you guys use the mister are you generously spraying the entire car and then just going over all the car with the WW to both dry it and remove the grime at the same time?

Thanks, Giff
Giff,

Check out this page from Pat (exceldetail.com) for NRWS techiniques.

Personally, I'll fill up the mister first and generously mist the entire car letting it soak in while I go fill up my bucket with the grit gaurd and then my other bucket with 2 gallons of water (2 ounces of Optimum NRWS). By the time I come back upstairs to the garage, I give each panel a quick spray before I wash it. Then, I proceed to wash just like I would via traditional methods. Dunk the washmit of choice into your NRWS / water solution and then wipe down the roof, working your way down to the hood, doors, etc. I generally wash the roof, then dry. Then, the hood / bumper, and dry. Then I'll wash the remainder of the car, drying each section after I wash it.

Hope this helps.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 04:52 AM
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That is a great explanation, thanks Steve.
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