Stretch On DD Bad Idea
#1
Intermediate
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Stretch On DD Bad Idea
Ive been doing some reading on running a stretch on a DD, those of you that run stretches what is the azz pain associated with doing so? Do you have to Granny drive in most situations? What are Handling issues or how has it changed the driving characteristics of your car? What are your thoughts on "Function over form" and the standard caution given to people that run stretches?
Check this thread out... Im starting to think that the guys running meats are on to something and if done right aesthetics aren’t half bad....
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-tires-wheels-suspension-97/beefy-tire-setups-show-us-what-youve-got-870412/
Check this thread out... Im starting to think that the guys running meats are on to something and if done right aesthetics aren’t half bad....
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-tires-wheels-suspension-97/beefy-tire-setups-show-us-what-youve-got-870412/
#2
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iTrader: (1)
i bought my Volk Te37's with a slight stretch.
the only problem i have with it is that there is no rim protection at all.
as soon as these wear out, i want a beefy tire.
there isnt really any handling issues with my slight stretch, as the tire has full contact with the road.
will raise the front up a few millimeters and will put on a beefier tire.
the only problem i have with it is that there is no rim protection at all.
as soon as these wear out, i want a beefy tire.
there isnt really any handling issues with my slight stretch, as the tire has full contact with the road.
will raise the front up a few millimeters and will put on a beefier tire.
#3
Intermediate
Thread Starter
I can't even tell its stretched.... Nice whip though.... I'm thinking of running a 255/35/20 on 20x10 et27 on all 4 corners. Salesman thinks I'll need major fender work.... Don't care about the work I just want to drive it like I stole it every now and again without worry.
#4
rock the block
I'm running stretched tires on my DD:
20x9
225/30/20
20x10
255/35/20
So far, I've been really impressed with how well it handles. I found a lot of people online saying it would ruin the ride, but it wasn't nearly as big of a difference as I expected. I haven't noticed any real loss in handling, any increase in noise, or any vibration at higher speeds. I've gone on multiple two hour trips going 100-135 km/h with no issues.
As justnspace pointed out, the biggest side effect imo is the exposed lip on the rim..I already hit a pothole and bent the lip on one of my wheels last week, had to have it replaced. You will quickly develop a fear of potholes and wide dips in the road, but I try to see the positive side of this being that it will keep my speeds down around town
Just be ready to shit your pants every time you see a pothole! Stay safe out there.
20x9
225/30/20
20x10
255/35/20
So far, I've been really impressed with how well it handles. I found a lot of people online saying it would ruin the ride, but it wasn't nearly as big of a difference as I expected. I haven't noticed any real loss in handling, any increase in noise, or any vibration at higher speeds. I've gone on multiple two hour trips going 100-135 km/h with no issues.
As justnspace pointed out, the biggest side effect imo is the exposed lip on the rim..I already hit a pothole and bent the lip on one of my wheels last week, had to have it replaced. You will quickly develop a fear of potholes and wide dips in the road, but I try to see the positive side of this being that it will keep my speeds down around town
Just be ready to shit your pants every time you see a pothole! Stay safe out there.
#5
Burning Brakes
245/35 on 20x10.5 here.
As mentioned, exposed lips and potholes are the main things to worry about. And keep the PSI on the high side. You mainly have to drive slow if you're car is slammed so as to not bottom out.
As mentioned, exposed lips and potholes are the main things to worry about. And keep the PSI on the high side. You mainly have to drive slow if you're car is slammed so as to not bottom out.
#6
Moderator
cant run over uneven pavement like you normally would, every where you drive to you will need to slow down for dips or bumps or uneven roads to avoid bending your wheel..
unless you live in city where roads are newly paved then you cant really drive it like you stole it on stretched tires.
unless you live in city where roads are newly paved then you cant really drive it like you stole it on stretched tires.
#7
Intermediate
Thread Starter
265's on 10 et27 although still a stretch .... Is really tame. I'll still be careful but not like running a 235. Thanks for the input everyone..... This forum saves its members THOUSANDS in fuck up fees...lol
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#8
Racer
Really going with 265's on a 10 +27? Flare fenders for sure will be needed and you'll still have a great chance of tire catching your fenders while turning. Would look good with that meaty tire though.
#11
Drifting
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I am one of the "beefy tire" guys (255 on 8.5"). I love the setup! I didn't buy the 6MT + SH-AWD so I could baby it and have no regrets (or exposed lips).
I'm also on OEM suspension though so clearly I go against the grain when compared to most.
I'm sure you can find a nice middle ground and get a more aggressive look than I have without going balls deep.
I'm also on OEM suspension though so clearly I go against the grain when compared to most.
I'm sure you can find a nice middle ground and get a more aggressive look than I have without going balls deep.
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justnspace (05-13-2014)
#13
Racer
All depends on offset... Scotty
Just because you're running a 20x11 without mentioning the offset compared to the OP's 20x10 +27 doesn't mean "You will be fine."
Just because you're running a 20x11 without mentioning the offset compared to the OP's 20x10 +27 doesn't mean "You will be fine."
#15
Burning Brakes
I have never been a fan of stretched tires. They weren't meant to be ran like that, I know people get away with it, but I'm sure there are plenty that regret doing it.
#17
Burning Brakes
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Jackieee_TL (05-13-2014)
#19
Why do u guys think u have to baby a car with stretched tires? It drives the same. Maybe a lowered car, and not many here are running low offsets with wide wheels anyway.
OP, like I said, you will be fine. +40 is plenty safe.
OP, like I said, you will be fine. +40 is plenty safe.
#20
Moderator
scotty is right, it drives the same, but hitting a pothole with a 40 series tire that is not stretched vs a stretched 35 series is totally different.. thus you have to baby it during everyday driving.
#21
Burning Brakes
Problem is, it's not +40. It's +27 and he don't want to stretch the tires. He will have issues with that setup on a 4G. Slam it and it's over. He won't be able to turn lol.
#25
Burning Brakes
It can handle a lot of rim but not tire. He's gonna have some serious poke with a 265 tire. It gonna poke out over half an inch from the fender already with his wheel specs. Oversize wheels requires stretched tires for the 4G.
#26
Instructor
I am one of the "beefy tire" guys (255 on 8.5"). I love the setup! I didn't buy the 6MT + SH-AWD so I could baby it and have no regrets (or exposed lips).
I'm also on OEM suspension though so clearly I go against the grain when compared to most.
I'm sure you can find a nice middle ground and get a more aggressive look than I have without going balls deep.
I'm also on OEM suspension though so clearly I go against the grain when compared to most.
I'm sure you can find a nice middle ground and get a more aggressive look than I have without going balls deep.
what is the profile 255 x what?
#27
Moderator
im on 255/35/20 up in the front 9.5 +12 and i cant turn the last 10 degrees on my steering wheel.. so im cutting it pretty close.. lol so a 20x10 +27 on a 255 245 will probably not have issues you get hell of a shitty ride on a stretched tire.
#32
The Original Shawdy
Haha those are fighting words! Lol
Pots always has me crackin up!
Pots always has me crackin up!
#33
Moderator
no im serious.. you can have 2 inches of lip stick past your quarter panel.. it dont matter, use some common sense and dont go so close to the curb.. i mean by law you can have your car parked 18 inches away from the curb..
#34
I'm running 275/30R20 on a 10" wheel. I was scared about stretch on my DD. The lip will still get scratched if I hit a curb while parking but the extra meat gives me a little morr confidence while driving. I'm lowered on H&R and drive and awd. I'm flush in the front and just slightly sunk in the rear with a +40 offset. I don't rub at all and I go over multiple aggressive speed bumps everyday where i live.
The stock wheel/tire diameter is 26.7" and my set up equals a diameter of 26.8" with a brand new tire. The sidewall figure is a ratio to the width of a tire. So by going with a wider tire i was able to go with a lower sidewall measurement and still achieve the same diameter wheel with no stretch and good wheel protection.
Use a tire calculator and plug in some numbers and you'll see what I mean. I was able to buy my tire/wheel combo confidently by researching the many threads in the forum. Everyone has done trial and error and it helped me when I attempted my own educated choice at a tire selection. Don't be scared to run a lower sidewall with a wider tire it works.
The stock wheel/tire diameter is 26.7" and my set up equals a diameter of 26.8" with a brand new tire. The sidewall figure is a ratio to the width of a tire. So by going with a wider tire i was able to go with a lower sidewall measurement and still achieve the same diameter wheel with no stretch and good wheel protection.
Use a tire calculator and plug in some numbers and you'll see what I mean. I was able to buy my tire/wheel combo confidently by researching the many threads in the forum. Everyone has done trial and error and it helped me when I attempted my own educated choice at a tire selection. Don't be scared to run a lower sidewall with a wider tire it works.
#35
The Original Shawdy
I run stretch and have no issues at all. Sure the lips stick out but I don't park my rims on the curb. It's also due to fitment.
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