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I see you got your answer.

You're welcome and thank you for your support.

Sorry, we did the best we could. I'm sure you'll be happy with the product. It's worth the wait.

eazy

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Got my shipping confirmation thanks Josh. Its all gravy. What sucks more is UPS doesn't deliver on Saturday so I gotta wait til Monday to get it

I have some high expectations on these. I hope they're as good as advertised

eazy

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https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=440

Yikes. I hope this is not the case on all the shipment

Pete2010

Oh know - I wonder if maybe those are the 4G ones or if it's just a total fluke. Eazy - did you check yours to see if they were correct? I'm not sure what the bolt pattern should look like on the 4G's.

I just got mine today and plan on getting them installed as soon as I can.

eazy

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I have yet to check. I took a look at them when I got them yesterday. The top of ours seems to be different from the 3G ones. I think it was just the whole ISC 3G batch went bad(every single one). Our design is different I will try and check it out today.

InFaMouSLink

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just open your hood and check eazy.

Pete2010

Awesome - thanks for checking - This is their first run of parts for Acura - you would think they would have confirmed it - perhaps the 3G parts have the bolt pattern for the 4G.

Looking forward to hearing what you find.

eazy

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Yea I def will. Just forgot to check yesterday.

I'll let you know what I find. The other issue I had was I ordered 11/7 custom spring rates. But my label on the coils say 12/8 street sport. I asked Josh and he says manufacturer verified that it was the 11/7 that I have. But the box says 12/8 and theres no other way I can verify cept getting my coils tested for spring rates (which I aint tryna do) If theres anything wrong with these top mounts I'm going to go with something else

eazy

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So I took a look under the hood today. I think there might be a slight issue. Theres 6 studs on the ISC's but there are only 5 under the hood. I think fitment wise its not an issue like the 3G ISC's but there are 6 studs vs 5 on the car.

Soo what now? Do I have to cut the stud off? Drill a hole to fit the extra stud? What to do? Anyone with Tein SS have this problem?

InFaMouSLink

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hammer out the stud that doesn't belong.

pics please of the new and old

eazy

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I took pics of the top of the ISC's and the stock mounts. Will upload them when I get a chance

eazy

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Here are pictures

Pete2010

Yea - Looks like that's an easier solution than the 3G guys have - Simple need to hammer out the stud that doesn't belong.

I'm assuming the front and rears will have the same bolt pattern?

eazy

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That I'm not sure. Rears I can't really check til I go get them put in and rip the seats out. I HOPE there are no surprises with the rear..

I mean I thought these were made for our cars specifically.. There should be no need for modification..

eazy

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judging by this pic of oem rear shock

The rears should be no problem. 2 studs on isc and 2 studs on oem

ANDYCHULOSKI09

WOW this u crazy u guys wait all this time for these coils and then they dont fit i would be demanding for some type of refund on labor taking the car apart only to have the brand new parts not fit...

InFaMouSLink

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Just hammer out the 1 stud thats off bro. you'll be good.

eazy

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Yea but its not half as bad as the 3G side.. I feel bad for those guys

Thanks for the 411 bro. Much appreciated

How's the build coming along?

Pete2010

Yea - I agree - it's super minor - and I've heard of other people having to do that with Accords before - running 5 studs instead of 6.

And yea - i do feel bad for the 3G guys - their process, while simple, is more than just "hammer out a bolt". Hopefully the ISC gets them fixed up. Can't really fault XLR8 - ISC screwed him by delivering parts with the wrong top hat.

aspecallday

I have teins ss and my mechanic didnt have any issues putting them on my car.Funny i was debating wether i should get these coils because according to josh they go 2" lower than teins

i feel the same way you feel eazy ,there should be no need to hammer anything that was specifically made for your car.
Yes i know that there are times where you have to modify pieces so they can fit but thats when the part was not meant for you car.

Maybe the company made them like that so they can fit other vehicles and if you wanted them for your car you would just cut it off. Hope that this is the case. GLWI

eazy

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It kinda is both their faults. Less on XLR8 part.

Thanks I know I'm not the only one that feels this way. You're right on. There shouldn't be any reason to mod something to fit that was supposed to be made for your car. Unless for some reason the test car had 6 studs

Pete2010

I wonder what the 12 TL looks like - maybe it's an 09-11 vs 12 thing?

Excelerate

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Sorry for the delay in responding. This is the first chance I've had to check this thread.

Thanks for the pictures eazy. It seems there is one extra stud. You can hit the unnecessary stud out with a hammer. I don't have an OE top mount here. If you can just take a measurement between each factory stud that would be great. I want to make sure all the studs are aligned in the proper location for you.

njsimons

It seems easy enough to just hammer it out as long as the measurements are spot on.

aspecallday

i dont want to sound like a d**k but why would anyone have to cut or hammer anything that was purchased specifically for there car.It just sounds crazy to me to have to modify something that is brand new

Im all for people expanding there business but when there is something that works for a car i tend to go that route. At least until some people have purchased and given reviews

njsimons

I know what you saying I would actually want to know the reason for the extra stud? It just doesn't seem like a big deal to me if it works like it should.

eazy

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Will do. I'll put up pictures when I get a chance. I'm scheduled to put these in Sunday. Ima be tighttt if all my old suspension is out and something doesn't fit right

Excelerate

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I'm trying to get clarification on why there is an extra stud but in the meantime we have express aired factory top mounts to ISC and we have ordered a set for us locally to compare all coilover kits. I want to verify which exact stud needs to be popped out.

eazy

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From a visual standpoint, I would say if you hold the ISC' with the 4 studs on the bottom of the top hat, its the stud left of the 4 studs on one. I'm going to get some pictures now will post later

InFaMouSLink

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looking at the pics provided. if you draw a line from the middle of the four studs, it'll go thru the adjustment knob and the 5th stud.

Basically the one that doesn't have the allen screw under it

InFaMouSLink

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Excelerate

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Thank you for the pictures. I have a factory top mount being sent to us so we can use it for our reference. But yes then you would knock out that stud to the left of the one with the line through it.

Excelerate

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Just a quick update from ISC:

Hello Acura customers,

This letter is coming directly from ISC Suspension North America.

First of all, I would like to thank you all for choosing ISC Suspension for your coilover solution. Excelerate Performance has informed me that some of you have been having issues with your coilovers. Just to summarize the reported issues:

04-08 Acura TL one of the top plates is inverted or the opposite bolt pattern that it should be. When we first talked about the Excelerate ISC Acura coilovers we sent an 04-08 TL to try out on a customers car. We found that there was a difference in how they should mount up. ISC NA sent to the factory the correct top plate. When they were made one of the plates was made as the original, incorrect plate. We have this sorted and will have 30 new plates for the 04-08 Acura TL’s sometime next week.
09+ Acura TL we have realized that the top plate has an extra bolt. If you are to tap out the extra stud on the 2 stud setup you should be able to mount these up no problems at all. This is being fixed looking into the future.

It has also been brought to my attention that some of the pillowballs look slightly different. There is no performance difference. However I am having 80 new sets of pillowballs delivered so every set can be uniform.

Please let Excelerate know if you spot any other issues so we can provide a solution as quickly as possible.

Now while these issues are prevalent and they can be quite frustrating you are only helping a small, growing company to improve and grow. These are the situations that separate a strong company from a fly by night operation. We are here to stay and grow to help you and many other customers into the future. ISC NA and Excelerate Performance will not rest until you are taken care of, trust that. This is a great quality suspension system and although we have had a small mishap this will be made right and you will all enjoy your new coilover systems.

We sincerely appreciate your patience and will see to it that this is made right!

Thank you,

ISC Suspension North America

eazy

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Yea I basically took a measuring tape to the single bolt on the OE top hats and measured the distance from the single bolt to the outer bolts (out of the 4) they all measure 4" distance. So yea if you are having trouble figuring it out use a measure tape.

@Josh
So should I wait on the pillowballs? Does that apply to our coils as well?

Excelerate

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No, only the 3G TL.

eazy

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Ok cool thanks

eazy

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Getting the isc coils put in right now. Another issue u shoild speak to isc about is they didn't provide new bolts gor the bottom of thr coil. The oem bolts are too small

njsimons

Eazy have you found a solution.

Edward'TLS

Why is it so much trouble to install the ISC ? First the extra bolt, and now the missing bolts.

Have they ever do a test fit first, before start selling the suspensions ?

eazy

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Yea the solution is easy. Just went and bought 4 bolts that would fit. But if I didn't notice and started taking out my old suspension I'd be pretty tight. The OE one is too small and doesn't hold the coil.

Noooo idea


I finished having them put in today. Still have to tinker with the height got pretty late so just called it a day. Pain in the ass to get the heights even. But I'm dropping off the car this week to get some paint done. I should be done in time for Forest Park.

Is there a easier way to get coils to be the height you want it?