Excelerate

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You really need to get an alignment to determine how much your camber is off. You will likely at least need a rear toe kit, which we offer through Ingalls.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-412290.aspx

A qty of 2 is needed.

eazy

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Can you do a deal on those ingalls for those who deposited for the ISC's?

Excelerate

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We will offer free shipping on all camber kits that ship with the coilover orders.

FYAH TL

You will need to lower the car around 2 1/4 to 2 1/2 inches to get that 1 finger gap. With that much lowering front/rear you will need a front and rear camber kit to bring your camber within OEM specs.

Pete2010

Is a camber kit the same as the toe kit above?

FYAH TL

No. That kit above will adjust your toe but to adjust your camber you will need two more additional arms per side in the rear. SPC have the full kit that adjust toe and camber and Josh sells those kit also. Here's a link showing the three arms needed per side to adjust both toe and camber in the rear.

http://www.spcperformance.com/compon...AFrom&to=USATo


To adjust your camber in the front you'll need a ball joint from either Ingalls or SPC and Josh from Excelerate usually have those in stock.

Here's a link to the ball joint you'll need for the front to adjust your camber

http://www.spcperformance.com/compon...AFrom&to=USATo

eazy

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Damnnn really? Thats another $1000 cost more than the coils!

FYAH TL

LOL. You're way off on the price .
The price for all the parts for the rear camber/toe kit is around $315.00.....and the price for the two ball joints for the front is $130.00.

So for around $445.00 you get everything you need for the front and rear to adjust your camber and toe.

eazy

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I was thinking all 4 wheels needed it thats why. -__- Ya got me. On the site it said 225$ per kit from xlr8. $450 for rears only. The front wheels wouldn't need any additional parts?

FYAH TL

No additional parts will be needed for the front. All you need is the 2 ball joints. 1 for the right side and 1 for the left side.

eazy

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Where did you get yours from? Seems you got a great price

FYAH TL

^ Got it about 18 months ago. The rears i got from here
http://www.summitracing.com/ and the front ball joints i got them from Josh @ Excelerate. BTW Excelerate prices is lower than summitracing.

Excelerate

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This is the link to the rear camber/toe kit from INGALLS.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-412291.aspx

You need a qty of 2 to complete the rear.

FYAH TL

Josh that link you provided from INGALLS part #35623 that kit will not adjust the rear camber on the 4G. In the pic below the small item which is the ball joint will adjust the front camber...
and the 1 arm will adjust the rear toe.




To camber the rear and adjust toe you will need the full rear camber/toe kit from SPC part #67540 that i metioned in post #46 in this thread.
Here's a pic of the SPC camber/toe kit needed to adjust the toe and camber on the 4G. Those 3 pieces below is just for 1 side of the rear.

eazy

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Josh can you work out something for the spc alignment kit x2?

Pete2010

I wonder if it's just the image that isnt' correct - the page shows:

Ingalls Alignment Kits correct Caster, Camber and Toe problems associated with lowering you vehicle.
Adjustment Camber/Toe +/- 3 deg

eazy

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Seems like the SPC kit is camber/toe/setback vs Ingalls camber/toe/caster. Feel free to chime in Josh

Excelerate

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Fyah, that is incorrect. The TL has a rear upper control arm. The INGALLS kit replaces the rear upper ball joint and it does allow adjustment of camber. SPC does camber adjustment also, but it replaces different components.

See the picture below to see where the adjustable rear ball joint would go.




We can offer free shipping on any order of camber kits for those who purchased the coilovers.

eazy

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^ Josh you mean #21/#23 correct? So the Ingalls is basically same as spc?

FYAH TL

Josh. Got it and the diagram clears the discussion. The Ingalls rear kit uses the ball joint for rear camber and the one arm for rear toe....whereas the SPC that i have is different where SPC uses the three arms for camber and toe. Thanks for the updated info.

Excelerate

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The INGALLS kit replaces # 21 (ball joint) and #14 (toe arm).

You're welcome and thank you for working to help others out. You are a pioneer for the 4G TL crowd.

Pete2010

Just checking to see if the Coilovers have arrived - When do we need to pay the balance by?

Nexson

I would go on to say the SPC is a better buy for the rear, as it seems easier to adjust and install and you can take out three bars and replace them with stock arms when you sell the car.

eazy

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Why? The ball joint would serve the same purpose. If anything the install is more time consuming but once the install is done its just function. You'd still need to be on an alignment machine whether you get the SPC or Ingalls

Nexson

I would avoid installing another ball joint when possible, the bars are much simplier, easier to install and to adjust. Plus once again the resale value of selling your camber kit arms when you put the car back to stock. Just my opinion.

eazy

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True. I get what you mean

I guess for me since I plan to keep the car for a while I wouldn't mind getting the ball joint. Vs if you want to make it easier on yourself when you want to part out your car for whatever reason the camber arm kits are the way to go

Nexson

Plus I have had trouble finding shops that can actually adjust the ball joint, you need a special wrench.

Excelerate

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The coilovers should be arriving this week. The balance should be paid this week.

We just installed a set of these; it didn't require a special wrench.

Nexson

Maybe for the front then, but I remember the wrench had to be extra long and the end had to be angled to loosen the nut to adjust.

njsimons

I have the Ingalls ball joint and the acura dealer adjusts them for me no prob.

Pete2010

Damn - and I totally missed this - Paying the balance now - I'm assuming they have came in correct?

Anyone else get theirs yet?

eazy

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I spoke with Josh yesterday. They were supposed to come last Friday but customs delayed it. Josh said he was expecting to pick them up yesterday and should be available to ship this Friday. Hopefully Josh has them now

Pete2010

Ahh - nice - good thing I settled up then - should be seeing them soon then it sounds like.

Excelerate

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The coilovers were picked up late today by my warehouse. They are being sorted tomorrow and shipped out to me. I should have them Monday or Tuesday.

eazy

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Still no shipping confirmation received. Its Wednesday now -.-

Excelerate

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Coilovers are arriving at my shop on Friday!!! I will get tracking info to everyone as soon as the orders are processed and the shipment is unloaded.

Excelerate

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Here is the shipment. Should be arriving tomorrow.

kingjoker

Hi Josh, I have a off topic question that I would like to ask here as I think I can't use my PM feature yet. If I am going to order test pipes and J-pipe from your website, How do I determine how much cost for the shipping to Canada. I live in Vancouver, BC.

kingjoker

Nevermind now, I got the answer by reading your earlier post in the other topics. Thanks for bring all the good products to us 4Gers.

eazy

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I need mine like 1 week ago Glad its here at least