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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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High Beam Light Indicator on Dash

Anyone know why my High beam indicator is on? My high beams are not on (as well as the lever is not pushed back or stuck), and nothing is blocking the sensors on my dashboard.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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any lighting mods?
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:30 AM
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 09:56 AM
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^take it to the dealer.

and when the heck did you get a 6mt?
I'm jelly and want to drive it.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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I took it there, and they could not "replicate the problem". I stood next to the guy, and it was dim, but u could still see it. He said its not bright enough to be a "problem". I am going to take it back in and ask for another service person.

Traded in the other one cuz i wanted manual. Got it in Feb. Gonna wait til for more dynos for the CT intakes, then will probably bug you again for install help lol.
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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ok.. I've noticed this on mine as well.. It's not as "bright" as the one in the posted pic, but it's noticeable when compared to the other warning lights... Turn on the high beams and the high beam indicator should get brighter. If not, then there's an issue...
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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its not bright because it indicates that your DRL is on.

i have the same thing, its very dim. i can see it lit up slightly at night but not in the morning.

start your car with the ebrake lifted.. it should be off if your ebrake is lifted then once you release the ebrake, it should come on
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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then will probably bug you again for install help lol.
this means i get to drive it?
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Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Like Potmilkz said, it is related to the DRL.

It is the artifact of the high beam being running at half power when used in the DRL mode.

In the DRL mode, the high beam circuit is running at half power. So the dash indicator is dimly lit or half lit.

In the high-beam mode, the high beam circuit is given full power. So the indicator is fully lit, just like all other cars when the high beam is switched on.
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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^ Good to know! Thanks!
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
Like Potmilkz said, it is related to the DRL.

It is the artifact of the high beam being running at half power when used in the DRL mode.

In the DRL mode, the high beam circuit is running at half power. So the dash indicator is dimly lit or half lit.

In the high-beam mode, the high beam circuit is given full power. So the indicator is fully lit, just like all other cars when the high beam is switched on.
Once again internet forum users prove to be more knowledgeable than dealership salesmen / servicemen. It blows my mind how little they know at times.
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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wth! i tell you this info then edward comes and repeats it and he gets "thanks" points!???

hahhaha jk, glad you found your answer.
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Old Apr 18, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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^^^^^

Next time, explain the issues with more details, so everyone can understand the underlying science.

Then no one else can come in after you and fill in all the missing details.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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shouldnt put a damper on anyones experience with dealer personnel. This issue shouldnt be turned into a big issue. as far as the cirtuit being runned at half power, has anyone seen the schematics to prove this?
just because someone makes a believable point doesnt mean its true. alot of the time, i've felt service personnel just say "normal operation of vehicle" or "compares to known like vehicle", just to make it easier to the common folk like us. going into too much detail, will be over kill for many.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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^ I've actually tested the operation of this circuit after learning about it here. Since my car is an MT, I always leave the parking brake engaged after turning the car OFF. The high beam indicator is not lit when starting the car (parking brake engaged). The car's reflection off of the office building's glass windows shows that the DRL's are OFF. Upon releasing the parking brake, the high beam indicator turns on and the visual is confirmed via the office building's glass windows that the DRL's are now ON.

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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eg5
shouldnt put a damper on anyones experience with dealer personnel. This issue shouldnt be turned into a big issue. as far as the cirtuit being runned at half power, has anyone seen the schematics to prove this?
just because someone makes a believable point doesnt mean its true. alot of the time, i've felt service personnel just say "normal operation of vehicle" or "compares to known like vehicle", just to make it easier to the common folk like us. going into too much detail, will be over kill for many.
The high-beam headlight circuit is integrated into the PCM, unlike the standalone low-beam HID circuit. This means that the PCM controls and outputs the current going to the high-beam circuit, depending on the operation mode (DRL or high-beam) based on various sensor inputs such as ignition "key" position, parking brake position, headlight switch position, high-beam switch position, etc.

Anybody who is interested in seeing the schematic, can pay a visit to an Acura dealership's parts/service department and ask to take a peek at the headlight section inside the TL service manual.

But what they'll see from the factory headlight schematic will reveal the exact connections just as what I have described above in my 1st paragraph; nothing more, nothing less.

For those who still have doubt and not 100% satisfy, and don't mind hurting their eyes a bit, is to carry out the live test as below.

Stand about 25ft in front of the TL. Cover up the low-beam headlights with black plastic to minimize the blinding effect. Having someone sitting inside the car to operate the high-beam, alternating between DRL mode and high-beam mode. Stare at the headlights, and note the differences in the light intensity level with the two modes.

The less blinding intensity one is the DRL mode, and the very blinding intensity one is the high-beam mode.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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^^^^^

My mistake. When I said "PCM", I meant "DRL module". So it should be :

"The high-beam headlight circuit is integrated into the DRL module, unlike the standalone low-beam HID circuit. This means that the DRL module controls and outputs the current going to the high-beam circuit, depending on the operation mode (DRL or high-beam) based on various sensor inputs such as ignition "key" position, parking brake position, headlight switch position, high-beam switch position, etc."
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by eg5
shouldnt put a damper on anyones experience with dealer personnel. This issue shouldnt be turned into a big issue. as far as the cirtuit being runned at half power, has anyone seen the schematics to prove this?
just because someone makes a believable point doesnt mean its true. alot of the time, i've felt service personnel just say "normal operation of vehicle" or "compares to known like vehicle", just to make it easier to the common folk like us. going into too much detail, will be over kill for many.
Again with the Hippies! When is someone going to put a stop to these GD pot smokin' hippies. I mean they are everywhere. think you got it all covered, then whoops, your daughter is smokin' pot too. C'mon, someone needs to step up and put thier foot down.

Where is Justin?
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