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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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guys, do you think this can work for the 3.7 TL and RL, maybe?

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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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I dont see why not.... find out for us
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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I dont see why not.... find out for us
um...I don't know sh!t about engine management...
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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there is always a time to learn, although I wouldnt suggest learning on your RL, its to damn expensive lol. I learned a bit about engine management from the several DSM's that I had owned.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Basically you can control all of the parameters of the engine. Ignition timing, fuel control, capability of logging in real time to adjust AFR's for maximum horsepower. Probably better used for Forced Induction applications due to the need to alter AFRs and timing to prevent detonation and make maximum power. Still usable for naturally aspirated applications but not much power to squeeze out, unless of course you go to higher compression pistons or run race fuel and blah blah blah lol.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Basically you can control all of the parameters of the engine. Ignition timing, fuel control, capability of logging in real time to adjust AFR's for maximum horsepower. Probably better used for Forced Induction applications due to the need to alter AFRs and timing to prevent detonation and make maximum power. Still usable for naturally aspirated applications but not much power to squeeze out, unless of course you go to higher compression pistons or run race fuel and blah blah blah lol.
can I borrow you and your car to test this? you seem to know a bit more than me
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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Sure, we can trade and when you fuck something up I get to keep yours and take mine back..... sound good
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Sure, we can trade and when you fuck something up I get to keep yours and take mine back..... sound good
you're less than helpful...no, you cannot have my car...I don't think I'll find another as they barely make em and definitely don't make em in red.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Basically you can control all of the parameters of the engine. Ignition timing, fuel control, capability of logging in real time to adjust AFR's for maximum horsepower. Probably better used for Forced Induction applications due to the need to alter AFRs and timing to prevent detonation and make maximum power. Still usable for naturally aspirated applications but not much power to squeeze out, unless of course you go to higher compression pistons or run race fuel and blah blah blah lol.
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can I borrow you and your car to test this? you seem to know a bit more than me
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you're less than helpful...no, you cannot have my car...I don't think I'll find another as they barely make em and definitely don't make em in red.
Really? Look at the order of posts. You asked a question you got an answer. Dont like answers, dont ask questions
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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I asked for help, you said no...then it went on for several more posts. thanks
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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I did?..... where?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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What an odd conversation...

I'm going to take a stab at this and tell you that although the aem ems may be able to tune your engine computer, the one thing it can't do is run your sh-awd system. The sensors will have no signal and either the cars will resort to FWD or they will make all of the diffs act like "open diffs" and give power only to the wheel with the traction.

In older preludes that had the first gen of this system, they had a separate ecu for the atts system, and any aftermarket standalone couldn't run it, so the atts makes the system act like it had an open diff. If this sh-awd system has it integrated into the can-bus system or not, its never going to work.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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The ad doesnt say AWD or not. If it were for the AWD I dont see why it wouldnt work for the other 3.7 AWD models.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Whoa, $1,200+ is WAY too much money for any piggy-back tuner/plug in appliance. I would agree to that if it included an exhaust in the deal. AEM is a reputable manufacture, but they can kiss my ass. Because I did not see anything that offered me better hp’s or mpg’s…the only thing I give a shit about. If you want the first "blind spot intervention" system, you could buy a Nissan. Or, you could just look in the mirror.

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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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AEM EMS is not a piggy back system. Its a standalone fully programmable ECU. I personally wouldnt buy it, but I have heard a lot of good things especially in the DSM community. Until Jackal Speed Density came around.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
AEM EMS is not a piggy back system. Its a standalone fully programmable ECU. I personally wouldnt buy it, but I have heard a lot of good things especially in the DSM community. Until Jackal Speed Density came around.
It is still WAY too much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Who is J.s.D.??
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:10 PM
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Jackal is the tuning software and the DSM's run off of a mass air flow sensor. The Jackal tuning allows the DSM's to run off of speed density (manifold absolute pressure, air intake temp sensors to determine airflow) Such a huge improvement over teh stock MAF and much better than the blowthrough setups using a GM maf after the turbo......

ANyway, I got way off topic lol.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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O.K., hold on now here boys. It is time for a reality check. I just Googled that JDMSEMPFWD shit and I believe that you have forgotten that you are driving a family sports sedan that includes 2.5lbs worth of car seat attachments. I drove the CTS-V at Vic’s on Tuesday and nearly shit my pants. So if you spend another $25k on your car, you might get somewhere close to an Audi S-4. and you could get about 57% more shit from your wife. Because in reality, you just spent ½ your income on a god damn car. Now I’m not saying I’m perfect, because no matter how I justified the new wheels for the RDX…She just did not buy it. Sometimes a dog is more than just a dog.

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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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O.K., hold on now here boys. It is time for a reality check. I just Googled that JDMSEMPFWD shit and I believe that you have forgotten that you are driving a family sports sedan that includes 2.5lbs worth of car seat attachments. I drove the CTS-V at Vic’s on Tuesday and nearly shit my pants. So if you spend another $25k on your car, you might get somewhere close to an Audi S-4. and you could get about 57% more shit from your wife. Because in reality, you just spent ½ your income on a god damn car. Now I’m not saying I’m perfect, because no matter how I justified that the new wheels for the RDX…She just did not buy it. Sometimes a dog is more than just a dog.
I don't think we're aiming for sh!t the pants experience. There's a reason we drive Acuras and not Cadi's.

A little extra power never hurt anyone and if this thing had twin turbo's and better fuel economy...then we'll talk.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Marco
O.K., hold on now here boys. It is time for a reality check. I just Googled that JDMSEMPFWD shit and I believe that you have forgotten that you are driving a family sports sedan that includes 2.5lbs worth of car seat attachments. I drove the CTS-V at Vic’s on Tuesday and nearly shit my pants. So if you spend another $25k on your car, you might get somewhere close to an Audi S-4. and you could get about 57% more shit from your wife. Because in reality, you just spent ½ your income on a god damn car. Now I’m not saying I’m perfect, because no matter how I justified the new wheels for the RDX…She just did not buy it. Sometimes a dog is more than just a dog.
Im confused.... whats JDMSEMPFWD???
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Im confused.... whats JDMSEMPFWD???
JDM SEMP FWD

how about now?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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Sorry, I have been drinking heavily since 5:30pm. I think that it is important to put a limit…O.K. bitch cut up my card and banned me from AZ. I’m on double secret probation and if we ever meet it is only by coincidence because I never sent you any money. (Please help…she has a lawyer)
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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037- Um no. try googling that and see what comes up.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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Mr Marco. You sound a little schizophrenic, starting to lose the cool points here bud. Just step away from the computer and take a nap.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Mr Marco. You sound a little schizophrenic, starting to lose the cool points here bud. Just step away from the computer and take a nap.
IT IS A FUCKING JOKE. I'm pitching and you are not catching. Again, if you believe that this has anything to do with baseball, we will never get along.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Whether your joking or not your tactics come off as a bit strange. Everyone knows that these cars and Ferraris but its part of the modification world. Hence the intake you were once interested in purchasing, the BBK that you so desperately want.

The DSM is diamond star motors (ie. mitsubishi eclipse 1st and 2nd gen only, eagle talon 1st and 2nd gen, plymouth laser) Not sure if you are aware or not, but assuming your not Im giving you a hand. Is this information relevant to the original post? No, not at all.

Back to the original topic:

037, I do not see why the AEM EMS wouldnt work for your car. If you really would like to know, try contacting the company selling the unit. Also you could try contacting a performance shop to see if it is compatible with your car and if they have the ability to tune your car using this AEM EMS.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
Whether your joking or not your tactics come off as a bit strange. Everyone knows that these cars and Ferraris but its part of the modification world. Hence the intake you were once interested in purchasing, the BBK that you so desperately want.

The DSM is diamond star motors (ie. mitsubishi eclipse 1st and 2nd gen only, eagle talon 1st and 2nd gen, plymouth laser) Not sure if you are aware or not, but assuming your not Im giving you a hand. Is this information relevant to the original post? No, not at all.

Back to the original topic:

037, I do not see why the AEM EMS wouldnt work for your car. If you really would like to know, try contacting the company selling the unit. Also you could try contacting a performance shop to see if it is compatible with your car and if they have the ability to tune your car using this AEM EMS.
Wow, Just sent you a PM regarding this…and YES I’m a bit strange. That is what makes me Mr MARCO.
Again, you are driving a sedan that was introduced as a “Sporty” affordable car and is NOT intended for RACE. There’s nothing wrong with replacing your factory suspension with coil-over’s as they are superior to the factory set-up. However, if you want to turn your TL into a Ferrari fighter…you are wasting your money. And keeping individuals from wasting their money is my firm intention on AZ.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
037- Um no. try googling that and see what comes up.
you lost me...

Your search - JDMSEMPFWD - did not match any documents.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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I don't know any tuners but I posted just to see if any tuners are actually on this site to give me some details before taking any plunges and to see what gains could be possible.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 037
you lost me...

Your search - JDMSEMPFWD - did not match any documents.
I think we both got lost on that one

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I don't know any tuners but I posted just to see if any tuners are actually on this site to give me some details before taking any plunges and to see what gains could be possible.
Im sure there are some tuners on here somewhere. Ill tell you this though. I honestly think that the EMS is a waste of money unless you plan on going forced induction or running higher compression pistons that would require the need to be able to alter AFR's and ignition timing. Just my opinion though.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
I think we both got lost on that one


Im sure there are some tuners on here somewhere. Ill tell you this though. I honestly think that the EMS is a waste of money unless you plan on going forced induction or running higher compression pistons that would require the need to be able to alter AFR's and ignition timing. Just my opinion though.
no forced induction in the RL world, we barely got 1 RL supercharged since they started making them in 2005...

thanks for your time though
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 07:05 AM
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Seriously nobody is going to even take what I said into consideration? You can't put the AEM EMS into this car or any other Acura that has a 3.7L/SH-AWD. It's a common sales technique in the car realm to take a product that comes out and has the parameters that seems to be universal, and put it on the market to all the cars that seem to fall into the category. Just take a look at Ebay, type in Acura TL 2009 and look at all of the crazy stuff that it comes up (new stuff every month it seems) that wasn't made for our car.

Once again, if you put the AEM EMS in place of the factory ECU, the transmission will not work right or at all. It doesn't matter how much power you can get the engine to make, it won't be able to drive.

For the record, everyone who has not had a fully programmable stand-alone and who is criticizing that $1200 isn't worth it, have you ever used a stand alone before? It's incredibly worth it. Horsepower isn't cheap. Cheap, Fast and Reliable: you can only have two.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by prepreludesh
Seriously nobody is going to even take what I said into consideration? You can't put the AEM EMS into this car or any other Acura that has a 3.7L/SH-AWD. It's a common sales technique in the car realm to take a product that comes out and has the parameters that seems to be universal, and put it on the market to all the cars that seem to fall into the category. Just take a look at Ebay, type in Acura TL 2009 and look at all of the crazy stuff that it comes up (new stuff every month it seems) that wasn't made for our car.

Once again, if you put the AEM EMS in place of the factory ECU, the transmission will not work right or at all. It doesn't matter how much power you can get the engine to make, it won't be able to drive.

For the record, everyone who has not had a fully programmable stand-alone and who is criticizing that $1200 isn't worth it, have you ever used a stand alone before? It's incredibly worth it. Horsepower isn't cheap. Cheap, Fast and Reliable: you can only have two.
Just seems like a lot of money for something that in this case may not work. And no, I have not replaced the factory unit, just had small flash.
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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037 - Nice WEI score. I got you beat though!

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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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this is by far the wierdest thread i've seen EVER on AZine.

marco, you gave me some solid advice before.. and right back at you this time: don't come on the forum after drinks hahaha

at least you both gave me some good laughs for the evening.
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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037 - Nice WEI score. I got you beat though!

well...since this thread ain't going on topic anyway...what are you running?
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Who's trying to turn their TL into a Ferrari fighter? -.- LOL
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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Any chance for this thread to stay on (or at least near) topic?
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