ZDX engine tuning
ZDX engine tuning
guys, do you think this can work for the 3.7 TL and RL, maybe?
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/AEM-Perfo...-pr-65714.html
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/AEM-Perfo...-pr-65714.html
there is always a time to learn, although I wouldnt suggest learning on your RL, its to damn expensive lol. I learned a bit about engine management from the several DSM's that I had owned.
Basically you can control all of the parameters of the engine. Ignition timing, fuel control, capability of logging in real time to adjust AFR's for maximum horsepower. Probably better used for Forced Induction applications due to the need to alter AFRs and timing to prevent detonation and make maximum power. Still usable for naturally aspirated applications but not much power to squeeze out, unless of course you go to higher compression pistons or run race fuel and blah blah blah lol.
Basically you can control all of the parameters of the engine. Ignition timing, fuel control, capability of logging in real time to adjust AFR's for maximum horsepower. Probably better used for Forced Induction applications due to the need to alter AFRs and timing to prevent detonation and make maximum power. Still usable for naturally aspirated applications but not much power to squeeze out, unless of course you go to higher compression pistons or run race fuel and blah blah blah lol.
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Basically you can control all of the parameters of the engine. Ignition timing, fuel control, capability of logging in real time to adjust AFR's for maximum horsepower. Probably better used for Forced Induction applications due to the need to alter AFRs and timing to prevent detonation and make maximum power. Still usable for naturally aspirated applications but not much power to squeeze out, unless of course you go to higher compression pistons or run race fuel and blah blah blah lol.
What an odd conversation...
I'm going to take a stab at this and tell you that although the aem ems may be able to tune your engine computer, the one thing it can't do is run your sh-awd system. The sensors will have no signal and either the cars will resort to FWD or they will make all of the diffs act like "open diffs" and give power only to the wheel with the traction.
In older preludes that had the first gen of this system, they had a separate ecu for the atts system, and any aftermarket standalone couldn't run it, so the atts makes the system act like it had an open diff. If this sh-awd system has it integrated into the can-bus system or not, its never going to work.
I'm going to take a stab at this and tell you that although the aem ems may be able to tune your engine computer, the one thing it can't do is run your sh-awd system. The sensors will have no signal and either the cars will resort to FWD or they will make all of the diffs act like "open diffs" and give power only to the wheel with the traction.
In older preludes that had the first gen of this system, they had a separate ecu for the atts system, and any aftermarket standalone couldn't run it, so the atts makes the system act like it had an open diff. If this sh-awd system has it integrated into the can-bus system or not, its never going to work.
Whoa, $1,200+ is WAY too much money for any piggy-back tuner/plug in appliance. I would agree to that if it included an exhaust in the deal. AEM is a reputable manufacture, but they can kiss my ass. Because I did not see anything that offered me better hp’s or mpg’s…the only thing I give a shit about. If you want the first "blind spot intervention" system, you could buy a Nissan. Or, you could just look in the mirror.
edit: "What is behind, is not important" -Enzo
edit: "What is behind, is not important" -Enzo
Last edited by Mr Marco; Oct 14, 2010 at 09:00 PM.
AEM EMS is not a piggy back system. Its a standalone fully programmable ECU. I personally wouldnt buy it, but I have heard a lot of good things especially in the DSM community. Until Jackal Speed Density came around.
Who is J.s.D.??
Jackal is the tuning software and the DSM's run off of a mass air flow sensor. The Jackal tuning allows the DSM's to run off of speed density (manifold absolute pressure, air intake temp sensors to determine airflow) Such a huge improvement over teh stock MAF and much better than the blowthrough setups using a GM maf after the turbo......
ANyway, I got way off topic lol.
ANyway, I got way off topic lol.
O.K., hold on now here boys. It is time for a reality check. I just Googled that JDMSEMPFWD shit and I believe that you have forgotten that you are driving a family sports sedan that includes 2.5lbs worth of car seat attachments. I drove the CTS-V at Vic’s on Tuesday and nearly shit my pants. So if you spend another $25k on your car, you might get somewhere close to an Audi S-4. and you could get about 57% more shit from your wife. Because in reality, you just spent ½ your income on a god damn car. Now I’m not saying I’m perfect, because no matter how I justified the new wheels for the RDX…She just did not buy it. Sometimes a dog is more than just a dog.
Last edited by Mr Marco; Oct 14, 2010 at 09:23 PM.
O.K., hold on now here boys. It is time for a reality check. I just Googled that JDMSEMPFWD shit and I believe that you have forgotten that you are driving a family sports sedan that includes 2.5lbs worth of car seat attachments. I drove the CTS-V at Vic’s on Tuesday and nearly shit my pants. So if you spend another $25k on your car, you might get somewhere close to an Audi S-4. and you could get about 57% more shit from your wife. Because in reality, you just spent ½ your income on a god damn car. Now I’m not saying I’m perfect, because no matter how I justified that the new wheels for the RDX…She just did not buy it. Sometimes a dog is more than just a dog.
A little extra power never hurt anyone and if this thing had twin turbo's and better fuel economy...then we'll talk.
O.K., hold on now here boys. It is time for a reality check. I just Googled that JDMSEMPFWD shit and I believe that you have forgotten that you are driving a family sports sedan that includes 2.5lbs worth of car seat attachments. I drove the CTS-V at Vic’s on Tuesday and nearly shit my pants. So if you spend another $25k on your car, you might get somewhere close to an Audi S-4. and you could get about 57% more shit from your wife. Because in reality, you just spent ½ your income on a god damn car. Now I’m not saying I’m perfect, because no matter how I justified the new wheels for the RDX…She just did not buy it. Sometimes a dog is more than just a dog.
Sorry, I have been drinking heavily since 5:30pm. I think that it is important to put a limit…O.K. bitch cut up my card and banned me from AZ. I’m on double secret probation and if we ever meet it is only by coincidence because I never sent you any money. (Please help…she has a lawyer)
Whether your joking or not your tactics come off as a bit strange. Everyone knows that these cars and Ferraris but its part of the modification world. Hence the intake you were once interested in purchasing, the BBK that you so desperately want.
The DSM is diamond star motors (ie. mitsubishi eclipse 1st and 2nd gen only, eagle talon 1st and 2nd gen, plymouth laser) Not sure if you are aware or not, but assuming your not Im giving you a hand. Is this information relevant to the original post? No, not at all.
Back to the original topic:
037, I do not see why the AEM EMS wouldnt work for your car. If you really would like to know, try contacting the company selling the unit. Also you could try contacting a performance shop to see if it is compatible with your car and if they have the ability to tune your car using this AEM EMS.
The DSM is diamond star motors (ie. mitsubishi eclipse 1st and 2nd gen only, eagle talon 1st and 2nd gen, plymouth laser) Not sure if you are aware or not, but assuming your not Im giving you a hand. Is this information relevant to the original post? No, not at all.
Back to the original topic:
037, I do not see why the AEM EMS wouldnt work for your car. If you really would like to know, try contacting the company selling the unit. Also you could try contacting a performance shop to see if it is compatible with your car and if they have the ability to tune your car using this AEM EMS.
Whether your joking or not your tactics come off as a bit strange. Everyone knows that these cars and Ferraris but its part of the modification world. Hence the intake you were once interested in purchasing, the BBK that you so desperately want.
The DSM is diamond star motors (ie. mitsubishi eclipse 1st and 2nd gen only, eagle talon 1st and 2nd gen, plymouth laser) Not sure if you are aware or not, but assuming your not Im giving you a hand. Is this information relevant to the original post? No, not at all.
Back to the original topic:
037, I do not see why the AEM EMS wouldnt work for your car. If you really would like to know, try contacting the company selling the unit. Also you could try contacting a performance shop to see if it is compatible with your car and if they have the ability to tune your car using this AEM EMS.
The DSM is diamond star motors (ie. mitsubishi eclipse 1st and 2nd gen only, eagle talon 1st and 2nd gen, plymouth laser) Not sure if you are aware or not, but assuming your not Im giving you a hand. Is this information relevant to the original post? No, not at all.
Back to the original topic:
037, I do not see why the AEM EMS wouldnt work for your car. If you really would like to know, try contacting the company selling the unit. Also you could try contacting a performance shop to see if it is compatible with your car and if they have the ability to tune your car using this AEM EMS.
Again, you are driving a sedan that was introduced as a “Sporty” affordable car and is NOT intended for RACE. There’s nothing wrong with replacing your factory suspension with coil-over’s as they are superior to the factory set-up. However, if you want to turn your TL into a Ferrari fighter…you are wasting your money. And keeping individuals from wasting their money is my firm intention on AZ.
I think we both got lost on that one 
Im sure there are some tuners on here somewhere. Ill tell you this though. I honestly think that the EMS is a waste of money unless you plan on going forced induction or running higher compression pistons that would require the need to be able to alter AFR's and ignition timing. Just my opinion though.

Im sure there are some tuners on here somewhere. Ill tell you this though. I honestly think that the EMS is a waste of money unless you plan on going forced induction or running higher compression pistons that would require the need to be able to alter AFR's and ignition timing. Just my opinion though.
I think we both got lost on that one 
Im sure there are some tuners on here somewhere. Ill tell you this though. I honestly think that the EMS is a waste of money unless you plan on going forced induction or running higher compression pistons that would require the need to be able to alter AFR's and ignition timing. Just my opinion though.

Im sure there are some tuners on here somewhere. Ill tell you this though. I honestly think that the EMS is a waste of money unless you plan on going forced induction or running higher compression pistons that would require the need to be able to alter AFR's and ignition timing. Just my opinion though.

thanks for your time though
Seriously nobody is going to even take what I said into consideration? You can't put the AEM EMS into this car or any other Acura that has a 3.7L/SH-AWD. It's a common sales technique in the car realm to take a product that comes out and has the parameters that seems to be universal, and put it on the market to all the cars that seem to fall into the category. Just take a look at Ebay, type in Acura TL 2009 and look at all of the crazy stuff that it comes up (new stuff every month it seems) that wasn't made for our car.
Once again, if you put the AEM EMS in place of the factory ECU, the transmission will not work right or at all. It doesn't matter how much power you can get the engine to make, it won't be able to drive.
For the record, everyone who has not had a fully programmable stand-alone and who is criticizing that $1200 isn't worth it, have you ever used a stand alone before? It's incredibly worth it. Horsepower isn't cheap. Cheap, Fast and Reliable: you can only have two.
Once again, if you put the AEM EMS in place of the factory ECU, the transmission will not work right or at all. It doesn't matter how much power you can get the engine to make, it won't be able to drive.
For the record, everyone who has not had a fully programmable stand-alone and who is criticizing that $1200 isn't worth it, have you ever used a stand alone before? It's incredibly worth it. Horsepower isn't cheap. Cheap, Fast and Reliable: you can only have two.
Seriously nobody is going to even take what I said into consideration? You can't put the AEM EMS into this car or any other Acura that has a 3.7L/SH-AWD. It's a common sales technique in the car realm to take a product that comes out and has the parameters that seems to be universal, and put it on the market to all the cars that seem to fall into the category. Just take a look at Ebay, type in Acura TL 2009 and look at all of the crazy stuff that it comes up (new stuff every month it seems) that wasn't made for our car.
Once again, if you put the AEM EMS in place of the factory ECU, the transmission will not work right or at all. It doesn't matter how much power you can get the engine to make, it won't be able to drive.
For the record, everyone who has not had a fully programmable stand-alone and who is criticizing that $1200 isn't worth it, have you ever used a stand alone before? It's incredibly worth it. Horsepower isn't cheap. Cheap, Fast and Reliable: you can only have two.
Once again, if you put the AEM EMS in place of the factory ECU, the transmission will not work right or at all. It doesn't matter how much power you can get the engine to make, it won't be able to drive.
For the record, everyone who has not had a fully programmable stand-alone and who is criticizing that $1200 isn't worth it, have you ever used a stand alone before? It's incredibly worth it. Horsepower isn't cheap. Cheap, Fast and Reliable: you can only have two.
this is by far the wierdest thread i've seen EVER on AZine.
marco, you gave me some solid advice before.. and right back at you this time: don't come on the forum after drinks hahaha
at least you both gave me some good laughs for the evening.
marco, you gave me some solid advice before.. and right back at you this time: don't come on the forum after drinks hahaha

at least you both gave me some good laughs for the evening.
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