I've done some searching but I haven't come across a single fwd 4G TL using a piggy back tuner. Is there any reason why? I would think people who have done pcd's, jpipe, intake and exhaust would want to maximize the gains. Just wondering if its not possible, people have no interest or there isn't any point.

 

ive think we covered this on several threads.

but to answer your question... 4g ecu is very complicated to tune..

just so you know.. hondata barely came out with a tune for the 07-08 TL-S a month or two ago.. so dont be expecting a tune for the 4G or any piggy back at all..

 

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Agree, with the dismay sales volume for the 4G TL's when compared to the popular 3G TL's, don't expect any aftermarket tuner shop to come up with anything at all for the 4G TL crowds.

 

I have no prior experience with Acura's so please excuse my ignorance....

I see its been covered before but mostly people asking about "chips" and crap. I was referring more to a safcII type of device. They are pretty universal, there was never (atleast when I owned one) a official ecu or system for my 2002 maxima back in the day and many people said it wasn't worth it or wasn't possible. I ended up finding a pinout diagram and basically wired a safc up to it took it to this tune shop around here. The guy who tuned it was suppose to be one of the best. He really new his stuff and was able to tune my maxima and squeeze another 34HP out of it after I did basically everything that was possible to do to a 2002 maxima. It took him about 2 hours and cost me about $450. I couldn't use all the features of the safcII since it wasn't really meant for a maxima but just correcting the a/f ratios and timing did wonders.

I realize they are 2 different cars but I have seen people here suggest using one of those devices but I have not seen anyone who actually has. I would think theoretically if we could figure out what wires are what running into the ecu that you could splice and intercept some of the wires.

I just figured maybe 1 person had at least attempted this. I also checked the 3G forums and saw people say it wont work, others said the gains wouldn't be worth it and some said the ecu would remap its self.

 

Ive never heard of safcII before.
Im pretty new to the tuning scene.

however, we have done just that.
we took the MS3(megasquirt 3) and pinned it out to the ECU.
you can advance timing while retaining luxury items.

however, I bought mine from a company that is poor on customer service.
very poor.

if you could take the megasquirt3 and map it out to the 4G TL, it would work!

 

as a fellow FWD 4g .. i wouldn't worry about trying to squeeze a few hp for a couple hundred bucks.. just not worth it in this 4000lb car..

now if were talking about a sh-awd where it is an actual sports car then yes you would need to squeeze every few hp you can get.

 

What?! When did having SH-AWD make the TL a "actual sports car".

 

The AWD TL is no ordinary sport sedan, either.

The advanced torque-vectoring SH-AWD enables the AWD TL to take corners at even higher speeds than some so called "sports cars".

 

please know what you are talking about before you post.. you sound ignorant..

if a car is awd + m/t + v6 to me it i considered a sports car.. given the fact that it is a TL as well..

so a TL-S isnt a sports car as well then?

 

I don't really plan on doing auto cross or anything. I'm more concerned about highway speed and being able to accelerate well. If I could squeeze another 50-60 whp even the FWD TL would feel pretty nice cruising around.

Ill focus on pcd, jpipe, some exhaust (probably custom setup), maybe intake spacer, not sure if there is any benefit but the intake manifold spacer, see if I can create a custom true CAI then maybe look into tuning it all with a safcII if its possible. If its ever released to the public (let alone the fwd) the super charger will probably only put out an additional 80HP and will probably be in the $5,000 range.

I think with everything I'm thinking about doing I could pickup between 40-60HP and be under $2000 if I install myself. Not bad IMO haha atleast for this car.

 

6mt SHAWD for the motherfucking win!

 

No offense but when you post what you post it makes you sound just as ignorant. It doesnt matter if its FWD, RWD or AWD. If one wants to tune the car (tuning is about more than just the peak number on a piece of paper, tuning also smooths things out and makes overall driveability better) looking for more hp and making the power curve smoother its what they want to do, and not about what you think being worth it, especially when you dont know what kid of results tuning can achieve, Especially after adding on various mods it may be helpful to smooth things out.

 

My maxima ran like crap after my spacers, ssim, and header install till I tuned and yes I got a nice gain but the car was a lot smoother through out the power band. My SRT8 definitely felt better after a tune also but it was solely done for HP. I agree, its not always about the numbers sometimes its just needed especially when you doing headers or our version of them with the PCD's. I just hoped to have found someone who has done all of the exhaust mods and if they tuned. I don't see the point if the a/f is good after the exhaust mods and there is no power to be gained. I think tuning this car with a safcII or vafc is possible just not sure what to expect though since I haven't seen anyone do it.

 

I am interested in this and I am constantly emailing companies for a one off tune but it seems that no1 wants to touch a low volume j series car

 

Fixed.

 

From what I understand, usually any "S" models are "SPORT". There is a difference between Sport and a Sports car. Last time I checked, the 4G TL doesn't have a TL-S anyway. If you are using those variables to classify a sports car, then the TL-S doesn't fit, as it doesn't have AWD.

I never realized AWD + manual + 6 cylinders automatically denotes a Sports car. I MUST be IGNANT! LOL

 

^ I usually consider anything with 4 doors that "may" qualify as being sporty a "sports SEDAN", not a sports car. That name usually gets reserved for 2 doors and v8s or larger (ie Corvettes, Camaro ss, Mustangs etc, Not M5s, Sti's or TL's with awd).

 

there is hope for the ones that want to get tuned.

Hondata just released a flash for the 07-08 TL's.
this could lead to 4G flashes.

also, like I stated before..you can pinout the MS3 if you want to do all the work.

 

For the record, Acura said the 4G AWD TL is already the Type-S trim of the 4G TL, thus there is no need to release another Type-S trim of the "Type-S trim 4G TL".