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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Keyless Access on 2009 TL

on the acura site it states that the "keyless access system with smart entry allows you to open your car door and start the engine without ever taking your keys out of your pocket"

yet with this picture





it looks like you need to take out teh key and insert it, kind of like BMW used to do.

thoughts? am i wrong, am i seeing something totally different?
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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I believe that slot is for emergencies (like the key being out of power).
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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The slot is just a place to hold your key. You can leave it in your pocket or you can put it there. This isn't new...how have you not seen it before?
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by xen-cuts
The slot is just a place to hold your key. You can leave it in your pocket or you can put it there. This isn't new...how have you not seen it before?
Xen cuts, eh? You like the old school ninja tunes?
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by darth62
I believe that slot is for emergencies (like the key being out of power).
Pretty much, the slot is used to charge the remote's battery, that's all. You don't need to insert the remote into the slot to operate the vehicle.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Pretty much, the slot is used to charge the remote's battery, that's all. You don't need to insert the remote into the slot to operate the vehicle.
actually none of the slots charge the remote...

does anyone read the manual anymore? that slot is just to hold it if you don't want to keep it in your pocket but more importantly...if the battery is dead...you have to put it in that slot in order to start the car...

HOWEVER...BMW is the only one that REQUIRES it in the slot...which is really gay...why even have push start? its just a BMW with a S2000 push start...

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by buste2
actually none of the slots charge the remote...

does anyone read the manual anymore? that slot is just to hold it if you don't want to keep it in your pocket but more importantly...if the battery is dead...you have to put it in that slot in order to start the car...

HOWEVER...BMW is the only one that REQUIRES it in the slot...which is really gay...why even have push start? its just a BMW with a S2000 push start...

I can't speak for all BMWs but I know for a fact that in the 335 the key does not have to be in the slot for push start.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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my buddy's g37s is like that. its push start and you can just keep the key in your pocket, press down the cluth, and push the start button. the actual key is conveniently hidden in a slot in on the key fob. pretty slick.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by montyburnz
I can't speak for all BMWs but I know for a fact that in the 335 the key does not have to be in the slot for push start.
That's only true if you have CA (Comfort Access) option.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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does anyone read the manual anymore?
is the manual out somewhere to read?
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by buste2
actually none of the slots charge the remote...

does anyone read the manual anymore? that slot is just to hold it if you don't want to keep it in your pocket but more importantly...if the battery is dead...you have to put it in that slot in order to start the car...

HOWEVER...BMW is the only one that REQUIRES it in the slot...which is really gay...why even have push start? its just a BMW with a S2000 push start...

What manual? How can anyone read the manual for a car that's not even available? Do you have some inside connections or something? I've read that the slot is to charge the battery, so until the TL is released we'll have to wait and see for sure.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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I'm going to clarify/answer some statements made in this thread.

First off, the slot's main purpose is for the fob to be inserted in IF you have the keyless access option turned off. There is a simple toggle switch in the glove box. It is just like, and right next to, the trunk on/off switch that is currently on my 3G.

It does NOT charge the fob, or anything along those lines.

Now I'm not sure if there will be any "problems" if you insert the fob into the slot, with the keyless access switch in the "on" position. I would assume not, but until we get one in that I can try, I think this will be the case.

As for the push button start, it can be operated completely with the fob in your pocket. To start the car, you push the brake pedal in (and while holding it down), press the start button.

If you wanted to just turn the car to the I or II position (like an "old" style ignition), you would NOT press the brake pedal down, and simply press the start button once, or twice, depending upon desired operation. Pressing it a third time turns it back to the off position.

All the above operations can be done if the keyless access switch is in the off position, and the fob is inserted into the slot.

And if anyone is wondering where I got all this info, or how I know it, it's because I'm a tech at Acura and a new test/module came out for the 09 TL. It's VERY informative, I learned a lot about it that I had no idea about, even though I've read up on it on Acura's site, here, and discussed it with the "higher ups" (district reps, etc) at work.

I could go on and on about the new stuff on it, but that would be off topic for this thread.

Hope this helps clarify the keyless access system.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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guys, thanks so much for the info, i didn't mean for this to be such a big deal, but i learned something pretty cool about it all, thanks again.

last question, do you guys know if the headlights are adaptive?
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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they are not.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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sangwl, Stash is right. Additionally, the low beams are HIDs, and the high beams are now halogens. They don't have bixenons/"flippers" like the 3G TLs.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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what i was really asking was whether the headlights adapt to the turning of the wheel.

similar to all the other luxary brands today, they have auto-leveling head lights that adapt to all turns so taht you can see further around your turn.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sangwl
what i was really asking was whether the headlights adapt to the turning of the wheel.

similar to all the other luxary brands today, they have auto-leveling head lights that adapt to all turns so taht you can see further around your turn.
No, only the RL has this feature.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sangwl
what i was really asking was whether the headlights adapt to the turning of the wheel.

similar to all the other luxary brands today, they have auto-leveling head lights that adapt to all turns so taht you can see further around your turn.
no they don't but everyone else has them in their lineup of cars such as Lexus. Acura
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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and cost more money....
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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sangwl - I knew what you were asking, I just figured you understood the simple answer was no. I just wanted to add some additional info for you and everyone else

Additionally, I forgot to mention that the whole Keyless Access with push button start is ONLY available on TECH package (navi) TLs (regardless of whether it's a FWD or SH-AWD). This was confirmed in the PDI procedure, which was just released to us techs, as well as info from the ride and drive packet, as well as the ride and drive itself.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Keyless entry slot

I have a new 2010 tl. I can't get the key fob to stay in the slot when the glove compartment switch is off. I'm afraid to push too hard for fear of damaging something internally. Does anyone have this problem also?
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Holy old thread! Well, the 2010 TLs with keyless access operate a little bit differently then the 09s, but let me get this straight. With the keyless access system button OFF in the glove box, the key can still be pulled out when the car is running? If so, can you lock the car, and or does the remote work? If one of both of those answers to the second question is no, I'm going to guess you (or someone) removed the remote while the engine was running, which "damaged" the little hooks that hold the remote in. They just need to be reset, for lack of a better term. There is a TSB for the 09s about pushing these little guys back to their normal spot. Furthermore, that is the difference between the 09 and 10 keyless access. In the 09s, regardless if the master switch was on or off, the little grabbers engage, even if the remote was or wasn't in. In the 10s, they only engage if the master switch is off, meaning you would def have to have the remote in anyway.
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MICKWOODLYN
I have a new 2010 tl. I can't get the key fob to stay in the slot when the glove compartment switch is off. I'm afraid to push too hard for fear of damaging something internally. Does anyone have this problem also?
Like Mickwoodlyn, I've noted that I cannot get the fob to latch in place on my 11 regardless on the switch position in the glove box. I've read the manual, but maybe I'm missing something. Any thoughts?
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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why put the key fob in the slot? kind of pointless as "keyless" just leave the fob in your pocket?
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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I figured out what my problem was. I thought you were supposed to disconnect the key section from the fob to insert it in the slot. Actually the key stays in the fob and it fits correctly and stays in place. Hope this helps your situation.
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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Thanks, that did the trick. I too thought the internal key had to be removed. The only reason to use the slot is if the battery goes dead in the remote or the switch is off in the glove box. Thanks again for the info.
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