2010 Acura TL hard drive music
02-13-2011, 11:19 PM
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2010 Acura TL hard drive music
Anyone knows how to put mp3's in the hard drive? tried burning as data, mp3, & no luck. I figured out that you need to have it in wav format. But that's going to take up massive space in the drive. Any suggestions, or help would be appreciated. Thanks..
02-14-2011, 10:45 AM
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Greetings. I'm picking up my new (demo) 2010 Acura TL + Tech + SH-AWD today. This is kind of along the first thing I'll want to know.
Is there no way to remove the hard drive easily and load it with directly via a computer? That would be really sweet!
Also, is it possible to replace the hard drive? I don't know whats in it, but replacing it with a really fast solid state drive would probably help any speed issues.
Experts... please chime in. I've not been able to find answers to these things.
Is there no way to remove the hard drive easily and load it with directly via a computer? That would be really sweet!
Also, is it possible to replace the hard drive? I don't know whats in it, but replacing it with a really fast solid state drive would probably help any speed issues.
Experts... please chime in. I've not been able to find answers to these things.
02-14-2011, 06:07 PM
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The only official way to get music on to the hard drive is to rip audio CDs. Internally they're compressed in some format similar to a 128kbps mp3. There's no supported way to directly load files onto the hard drive, it sucks but car makers aren't very savvy when it comes to these sorts of things. They see it as a replacement for the mechanical CD changer.
Now if someone wants to rip out the hard drive, and reverse engineer the file system and how everything works, and inject your own audio files. That would be a really cool project. Although I'm pretty sure it would void your warranty.
Now if someone wants to rip out the hard drive, and reverse engineer the file system and how everything works, and inject your own audio files. That would be a really cool project. Although I'm pretty sure it would void your warranty.
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A little on the complicated side, but that's what you do if you want them on the HD. Or just buy a USB thumb drive and copy them over.
02-14-2011, 07:24 PM
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Actually, your reasoning is logical but the conclusion is wrong. You do have to turn it into a music cd (wav format), but the system will rip it into 128k mp3's. So you aren't taking up much space.
A little on the complicated side, but that's what you do if you want them on the HD. Or just buy a USB thumb drive and copy them over.
A little on the complicated side, but that's what you do if you want them on the HD. Or just buy a USB thumb drive and copy them over.
Also, does any one know if it can play dts encoded .wav files directly from the USB port?
02-14-2011, 07:25 PM
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The only official way to get music on to the hard drive is to rip audio CDs. Internally they're compressed in some format similar to a 128kbps mp3. There's no supported way to directly load files onto the hard drive, it sucks but car makers aren't very savvy when it comes to these sorts of things. They see it as a replacement for the mechanical CD changer.
Now if someone wants to rip out the hard drive, and reverse engineer the file system and how everything works, and inject your own audio files. That would be a really cool project. Although I'm pretty sure it would void your warranty.
Now if someone wants to rip out the hard drive, and reverse engineer the file system and how everything works, and inject your own audio files. That would be a really cool project. Although I'm pretty sure it would void your warranty.
How accessible is the HDD? Its not worth it if its complicated to get to... but if its easy, then thats another thing. I'd gladly take it out, reverse engineer the drive, and even replace it with a faster SSD drive if its not SSD already.
02-14-2011, 07:53 PM
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Also, remember that the HD is used for more than just storing songs. I believe it also stores the navigation software and maps.
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02-14-2011, 08:36 PM
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the HD or only worth something - when your iPod (or some other device) wont play - music on the HD is just not worth - just plug in an iPod - and play music - HD is too much work for not enough pay back - why would I want to look thru "virtual cds" on the HD for music?
02-14-2011, 08:45 PM
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I've not figured out the pros/cons of the internal HDD yet. Yes I know that Navigation is stored on it. Do we know the specifics of the drive? Is it SSD? I do know that HD space is pretty cheap these days. I can see a huge benefit of putting in a 500GB or even a 1TB drive for storage space. SSD would add quite a bit of "search speed" if indeed the factory one is a mechanical spinning drive.
So, beyond not knowing all the specific pros/cons.... I can see that its quite possibly cheaper to add a huge HD rather than using an IPOD and SSD should increase all around speed with the Audio and Navigation system (if there is lag caused by a spinning hd). Again, I just got my car tonight and I'm just trying to learn all its capabilities.
I did get home and found out I was able to play some of my old DTS audio cd's. I don't see that its possible to play an encoded DTS wav file from USB though.
So, beyond not knowing all the specific pros/cons.... I can see that its quite possibly cheaper to add a huge HD rather than using an IPOD and SSD should increase all around speed with the Audio and Navigation system (if there is lag caused by a spinning hd). Again, I just got my car tonight and I'm just trying to learn all its capabilities.
I did get home and found out I was able to play some of my old DTS audio cd's. I don't see that its possible to play an encoded DTS wav file from USB though.
02-15-2011, 03:01 AM
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thanks for all of your input. as i tried to do it in ,p4, & wma, but no luck. only audio tracks will go in. ipod, iphone, or thumb drive is cool. just want to use all of what the tl provides, & make use of the 47,000 price tag. lol.. bol everyone, & thanks again
02-15-2011, 08:35 AM
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02-15-2011, 09:03 AM
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Transferring HDD songs
Anyone know if you can transfer songs from one Acura TL to another
I'm probably going to lease a 2012, sometime next year
I have hundreds of songs that I burned from cd's on my HDD
I'd hate to have to do it all over again
The Ipod, & BT audio are cool, but I actually like the HDD drive, as well
Any thoughts?
I'm probably going to lease a 2012, sometime next year
I have hundreds of songs that I burned from cd's on my HDD
I'd hate to have to do it all over again
The Ipod, & BT audio are cool, but I actually like the HDD drive, as well
Any thoughts?
02-16-2011, 10:37 PM
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i doubt it that you can transfer your music. As i researched through forums, & trial, & error, only way is to put music in via "wav" format. Now it's time to buy cdrw's. Too bad we can't "ghost" the hard drive, & transfer it. To take out the hard drive from the car, isn't worth it. Too much hasstle, & lost of warranty. According to the sales man. Good luck all..
02-17-2011, 03:21 PM
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Hmm,
interesting!
That's not even a normal HDD:
http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Pat...ives/MK4036GAC
interesting!
That's not even a normal HDD:
MK4036GAC Automotive-Grade Hard Disk Drives 40GB* / 2.5-Inch / 4,200 RPM / PATA 
Toshiba, the leader in automotive-grade hard disk drives, introduces the MK4036GAC 2.5-inch 40GB Hard Disk Drive. Designed specifically for the in-cabin automotive systems environment, the MK4050GAC delivers the enhanced storage capacity, operating temperature range and operating altitude range required to meet the operating extremes of the on-road and off-road environment.
Toshiba pioneered the development of automotive grade hard disk drives to deliver the robust, cost-effective, high-capacity storage required for the complex GPS navigation systems used in the Far East and Europe. Building on this success, Toshiba works closely with Tier-1 automotive systems designers to meet the storage challenges presented by the evolving in-dash "infotainment" and telematics marketplace. In addition, Toshiba’s automotive-grade hard disk drives provide robust storage for in-car computing and for on-the-go digital communications.
Toshiba, the leader in automotive-grade hard disk drives, introduces the MK4036GAC 2.5-inch 40GB Hard Disk Drive. Designed specifically for the in-cabin automotive systems environment, the MK4050GAC delivers the enhanced storage capacity, operating temperature range and operating altitude range required to meet the operating extremes of the on-road and off-road environment. Toshiba pioneered the development of automotive grade hard disk drives to deliver the robust, cost-effective, high-capacity storage required for the complex GPS navigation systems used in the Far East and Europe. Building on this success, Toshiba works closely with Tier-1 automotive systems designers to meet the storage challenges presented by the evolving in-dash "infotainment" and telematics marketplace. In addition, Toshiba’s automotive-grade hard disk drives provide robust storage for in-car computing and for on-the-go digital communications.
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I can't believe its not SATA. 
Jeez... I also can't believe its not some kind of Solid State device. It really needs to be for longevity! Probably >80% will fail within 10 years of operation!!!
Jeez... I also can't believe its not some kind of Solid State device. It really needs to be for longevity! Probably >80% will fail within 10 years of operation!!!
02-17-2011, 08:37 PM
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02-17-2011, 08:40 PM
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The drive really does need to be upgraded to something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820208431
I can't tell you guys how surprised I am that its not a SSD.
I can't tell you guys how surprised I am that its not a SSD.
02-17-2011, 09:36 PM
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- 40GB storage capacity
- Extended Temperature Operating Range
- Enhanced Altitude Operating Range
- Robust Operating Vibration Range
- 16ms Average Seek Time
- Industry-standard 2.5-inch form-factor (9.5mm z-height)
- 4,200 RPM Rotational Speed
- ATA-6 Interface
Pretty crappy IMO. The bad thing is that the majority of failures of the nav system are probably due to the hard drive. As soon as my warranty is up... I'll be looking to clone and replace with a ssd for certain.
In fact... I might go ahead and buy the drive because in a few years PATA drives will be VERY hard to find.
This is a blatant and and pretty obvious point of failure to me in the entire nav and audio system.
02-18-2011, 07:02 PM
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No, it is not just a2.5" HDD, which is indeed standard. But this one is a drive especially for cars. Apparently...
02-18-2011, 09:35 PM
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Here is a company with SSD drives for Automotive applications:
http://www.stec-inc.com/product/mach8.php
http://www.stec-inc.com/product/mach8.php
02-21-2011, 03:35 PM
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02-21-2011, 10:38 PM
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A 64gb SD card would work fine too. :P Sandisk makes some pretty fast ones these days. I think they call them "Extreme SDHC" somewhere in the order of 30MB/s transfer rate which would be plenty.
02-22-2011, 11:44 AM
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This REALLY shouldn't be so surprising. The 2009/2010 hardware was probably spec'd out around 2007, before SSDs were realistically available for reasonable prices. I figure when you're putting a car together, you need to select technologies that are easily available in large quantities and fairly reliable and "proven" for the chosen application. A 2.5" hardened PATA drive was, at that time, very affordable and available in mass quantities and well understood and been used plenty of times over in other applications. SSDs, not so much.
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Drive clone
Do you have an image of the drive? Mine went bad and I want to put in an ssd instead but need a good image.
07-01-2017, 12:49 PM
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Where is the HDD (2010 TL)
I know this thread is very very old, but I can't find the info I need. WHERE is the HDD on a 2010 TL w/nav?? For over a year now we have been getting the error of "application error. unable to start system" It never gets to the screen where you have to press "OK", just this black screen. There is a ittle "6" in the corner. I think it is the HDD. It was intermittent but now it is usually this screen, nothing works on it. Not sure if it needs a cleaning or a replacement, but I think it would save me some $ if I could just get it out...The dealer offered no help when it was in for airbag recall. I don't think it was doing it at the time. I know the DVD drive is in trunk through the '08, but this is a hard drive and I don't know if it is in dash or under seat.
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