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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Why not a G37?

Hi folks. Yesterday, I had the pleasure of test driving the TL with a 6MT...by myself no less! First off, great car! I'm 6'4" and the seats felt perfect. The rest of the interior was very inviting. 6 MT felt great...yada, yada, yada. Then, I went to drive a G37.

I won't get into my likes + dislikes of each vehicle, but I'm a bit on the fence as to which car to buy. So, I'm very curious to find out why you folks did not choose the G37. Please do tell....thanks and merry christmas!
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Thought the interior didn't hold a candle to the TL, and it's where I am, after all. I don't care what they refer to as "washi paper finish," that's marketing B.S. It's pretty cheap aluminum. Reach up and give the moonroof interior cover a shake, it rattles like an Altima. My second drive, I took a salesman's loaner on the road, and got to see what it looked like "lived in." I wasn't impressed. I ruled it out at that time.

Engine has push, but sounds like a tractor at high RPM. I didn't like the 7 speed AT, it hunted through gears constantly in traffic. The SH-AWD corners uncannily. I challenge you to find any car in its price range that is as good.

If a MT is what you want, the G37's is inferior to the TL's in every review I've read, and the 7AT is as described.

Don't get me wrong, the G37 is a lot of car for the money, but the TL is a better car.
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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i was also on the fence between the tl and g37x. the biggest deciding factor for me was that the g37 was just a tad too small and compact for me. im 6'6" 240lbs so that could be the reason why, but in the tl i feel like there is so much more room and i have plenty of leg, shoulder, and head room, unlike the g37. dont get me wrong, i loved driving it during the test drive and the power of the g37 makes the TL feel like it has something to be desired to say the least. overall i liked the interior setup of the nav and controls more than the g37 too. loved the exterior of the g37 and the blue slate color with black interior which i did fall in love with, but decided i needed something bigger and the tl was the full size that caught my eye. if you do go with the g37, make sure you get AWD and the sport and tech package, that car really is awesome and it would have been a VERY close call between the two for me if i was not such a large human being haha. good luck bud
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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To be honest, I never got to the Infiniti Dealer after visiting the Acura Dealer because my mind was pretty much made up after coming back home from Iraq and noticing how many G37's were on the road around the area I live. I'm not kidding when I counted around 30+ G37's in my two weeks home compared to 6 TL's. I like the uniqueness of the car and once I drove it, I was sold. That's why I don't think I could ever buy a GM product due to them being everywhere!
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by slammie
Hi folks. Yesterday, I had the pleasure of test driving the TL with a 6MT...by myself no less! First off, great car! I'm 6'4" and the seats felt perfect. The rest of the interior was very inviting. 6 MT felt great...yada, yada, yada. Then, I went to drive a G37.

I won't get into my likes + dislikes of each vehicle, but I'm a bit on the fence as to which car to buy. So, I'm very curious to find out why you folks did not choose the G37. Please do tell....thanks and merry christmas!
I have had numeros 3G and now a 4G TLs. Several times I sold the TL thinking I woudl get a G and I agonized every time. I liek the G styling and power, but in the end the TL is a better built car, more roomy and even the 3G is quieter inside than a G, the 4G is on par with Lexus and Genesis for being quiet cabin. The 4G is built leaps better than a 3G and a G and in the end the toys in the G are dated and limited, the 4G ELS blows the G SOW away and the nav in the G seems toy like compared to the 4G. The Infiniti also locks out many Nav functions when your moving a large annoyance. The G also has a tight cabin and while it is a rocket, it is a straight line rocket, I found the TL-S and 4G AWD handled better and road better that a G or Sport G. 3 times I thought I was in a G and 3 times the TL won me back. I do wish the 4G TL were the same size as the 3G, I'm not liking the increased size and weight whihc shows up in lag (on top of the AWD loss) and corning, but it is still better than a G.

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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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The Infiniti G and Acura TL are both great cars. However, they excel in different areas. I was also torn between the TL SH-AWD and G37. I finally ended up getting the TL primarily due to a more spacious cabin and because it was at the beginning of its lifecycle. On the other hand, the Infiniti is in its fourth year and a complete redesign may be coming soon (didn't really want to be seen in a vehicle that would be considered "previous generation" in a few years).

However, I found the Infiniti more of a "driver's car" than the TL. I drove both vehicles back to back (same dealership) and could tell right away that the G37 had better driving dynamics than the TL. I came from a Lexus IS350 with the sport package and the G37 felt more like my IS. However, I would like to note that both the Lexus and Infiniti are rear wheel drive-based cars and the Acura is front wheel drive biased. If not for the cramped cabin and imminent redesign, I would have gone with the G37 without reservations - it's a great car with as much or even more features at a lower price with incentives. Bottom line - you can't go wrong with either vehicle.
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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I was waffeling between a G37Xs and RL SH-AWD. Having test driven and priced them both out, the only area where the G37 came out ahead in my opinion was in 0-60 performance. In every other category, I preferred the TL.

The TL had a roomier, more comfortable interior (the seats when you add the sport option were WAY to constricting for me, they were much better without the sport option though)

TL had a much better sound system

TL had better technology

TL had better safety ratings and potentially better resalve value (I had just had a baby and wanted a sporty, safe, AWD sedan)

And I happen to be one of the people that like the aggressive styling of the TL.

Oh, and the G37's 0-60 advantages have been negated with $800 worth of mods on my TL (see my sig).
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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guys- please keep this thread on topic i.e. Why did you not buy a G37 and choose the TL. This is not a comparison thread. There is a fine line between the two types of threads. If it turns into one (comparison), this thread will be closed. I have deleted two "comparison" posts.

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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Okay.

I bought my TL over another G35/G37 because I couldn't deal with the quality issues anymore from Nissan/Infiniti and poor customer service after owning two G35s already. Acura TL has much better quality than the G37 will have by a long shot.
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Advantage G37: Acceleration, smaller size (if that's what you like), some nonessential options unavailable on the TL

Advantage TL: everything else
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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The main reasons why I picked my TL over the G37 was the umber interior, first year of a new model, the aggressive style, and Infiniti sales people who didn't know what they were talking about.

I really liked the G37 coupe when it first came out and was all ready to buy one but when I drove it (the G37S with 6MT), the interior was a bit lacking and didn't like the clutch feel.
I test drove a manual 335i coupe the next day and for me, it was worth the extra 5k and more.

Then I testdrove the TL SH-AWD and felt like it was a good compromise of everything. I didn't really wanna wait another year for the 6MT so I settled with the 5AT but if I was to buy one now, 6MT would be my choice.
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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I got a TL over a G37x because the Acura was a lot less expensive and I think the TL looks better than that high riding G37x. That and the local dealer never had a G37x Sport to test drive. I had a G35 coupe before so I tried hard to like the sedan but just couldn't get by its looks for its price tag.
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the info... I have to say I am leaning more toward the TL due to increased interior space, great seats in comparison to the Infiniti sport seats, better interior, better safety scores, AWD, and manual tranny. Also, glad to read Acura build quality is better than Infiniti.

IMO, and also covered by folks here, the G is very attractive as it is a better drivers car and is much better looking. But the Acura trumps for all the reasons above..

Thanks!
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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When I started shopping I was leaning toward a G37. TL interior felt much wider. Rear seat leg room on the G was tight. The look of the TL Interior was head and shoulders above the G37. Whereas the TL styling grew on me I found the G37 started to look more and more like a Hyundai.
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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I'm in real estate, so for me, the larger TL was a winner simply based on that. (More rear legroom and wider)

Also, i dont know about the states, but in Canada, price also played a role. With all of the extras, the price gap became quite large between the fully loaded TL and the G.

G is a very nice vehicle, but simply not very useable for my work.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Milliron
If a MT is what you want, the G37's is inferior to the TL's in every review I've read,
+1!!

Infiniti 6 speed has vibration issues; the Honda/Acura 6M was without any discernable vibration in any gear - at any speed.

Fuel economy: Infiniti is dogshit; the 6M can log fuel economy numbers that cause disbelief within a large population segment.

best, ....
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ezshift5
+1!!

Infiniti 6 speed has vibration issues; the Honda/Acura 6M was without any discernable vibration in any gear - at any speed.

Fuel economy: Infiniti is dogshit; the 6M can log fuel economy numbers that cause disbelief within a large population segment.

best, ....
Yep, plus lots of SYNCRO issues with the 6mt that Nissan still hasn't resolved fully since 2003.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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I'm 6'1" 185lbs. I was set on the G37x. I don't mind a cramped cockpit but I found the G37 to be too cramped. I also felt the tech was a generation behind the TL. (ie voice commands took a little longer, iPod integration not as smooth, nav screen lo-res...etc).

If you have time, you may want to wait for the next generation G which may leapfrog the TL
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Also, i dont know about the states, but in Canada, price also played a role. With all of the extras, the price gap became quite large between the fully loaded TL and the G.
To equip a G37 to the equivalent of an SH-AWD TL, you will spend quite a bit more in the States, too.

I am surprised to see the comments about the G37 being more of a driver's car.

Take your 6-6 TL SH-AWD to Summit Point or VIR. When you're able to point the nose in T3 or T5, or when they're pointing you by in the Carousel, you'll no longer feel that the G37 has any kind of "driver's car" advantage.

When you must perform in a real world scenario, when you must drive 9/10ths - 11/10ths, the TL has a very clear advantage, IMHO.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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To equip a G37 to the equivalent of an SH-AWD TL, you will spend quite a bit more in the States, too.
Not really - a 2009 G37xS with navigation, sport and premium package has an MSRP of $42,165. My 2009 TL SH-AWD with Tech had an MSRP of $42,995 (it's over $43,000 for a 2010). If you add the technology package to the G37, the MSRP comes out to $43,265 (about the same as a 2010 TL SH-AWD with Tech). Plus, you are getting intelligent cruise control, adaptive front lighting system and a power/memory steering wheel column.

Infiniti is also offering more attractive lease and financing programs on the G37. Lease payments on a G37xS are more in the range of a TSX V6 right now.

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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I seriously considered the G37x when looking to replace my 06 TL with Nav. My biggest concern with the G37 coupe was that at 6'4" my head was bearly an inch or so from the head liner. When I tilted the seat back I could get more clearance but the cramped seating was my biggest concern. Second concern was the dealer I was working with was 180 miles away, none that much closer. Test drove a 2010 SH-AWD TL at my local dealer and I was sold.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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$41,485 is what I just came up with for a G37X Sedan that would be the rough equivalent of what I think the TL is. Edmunds says that the average purchase price is $38,496.

That's for a 2009. They don't seem to have 2010 listed.

Sorry...I appear to have been in error saying the equivalently equipped G37X is more expensive. :-)
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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I am surprised to see the comments about the G37 being more of a driver's car.

Take your 6-6 TL SH-AWD to Summit Point or VIR. When you're able to point the nose in T3 or T5, or when they're pointing you by in the Carousel, you'll no longer feel that the G37 has any kind of "driver's car" advantage.

When you must perform in a real world scenario, when you must drive 9/10ths - 11/10ths, the TL has a very clear advantage, IMHO.
I was surprised at that comment as well. I left it alone for the fact that the "feel" of a G is probably more in line with what an enthusiast may prefer but I really like the fact that the TL SH 6MT is and has proven to be just as capable a sports car as the G37x in everyway, if not better but offers a more luxurious driving feel and experience at the same time while being larger, therefore more spacious and a more comfortable car, IMO.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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I was surprised at that comment as well. I left it alone for the fact that the "feel" of a G is probably more in line with what an enthusiast may prefer but I really like the fact that the TL SH 6MT is and has proven to be just as capable a sports car as the G37x in everyway, if not better but offers a more luxurious driving feel and experience at the same time while being larger, therefore more spacious and a more comfortable car, IMO.
What's really surprising to me is that you are "surprised" about my "driver's car" comment. It is really not surprising to the automotive press and others who have driven both vehicles. I drove both cars back to back and it didn't take me long to notice that one was more performance inspired. Don't get me wrong, I love my TL SH-AWD Tech and I think Honda makes some of the best FWD cars. As a matter of fact, this is my third Acura and I have also owned RWD cars from Lexus, Mercedes-Benz and BMW. But all i'm doing is calling it like it is.

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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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I personally haven't driven the new TL, but I will say that we had a RL with SH-AWD and I loved that car. But in a performance aspect, the G has it over the TL. The TL just isn't a more performance oriented car as the G has always been. Remember, the G was designed on the Z platform, suspension design, etc. While the TL is on the Accord. There is a noticeable difference.

This is my opinion so I don't want people to get their feathers ruffled.
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wish i could afford one!
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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since you guys can't follow a simple request and keep this thread on topic, it is closed. if you want to compare the two, do it in Car Talk in the off topic section of the forum.
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