wickie2000

Acura just confirmed their 6speed automatic trans. with the release of the ne ZDX.


Any chance of it reaching th TL for 2010??

JAB00

Well the 2010 TL will have an manual six speed. It's only a matter of time until the automatic six speed migrates to the other vehicles.

Colin

I'm guessing that the ZDX and MDX are going to be made in the same factory. The MDX needs the tranny more.

KeithL

Cool then maybe by the 2012 MMC they'll ahve all the bugs Honda is notoriois for in their 1g trannies worked out and drop it in the 4G MMC Type-S!!

miketala

I know some deride Acura for not having a 6 or 7 speed AT (perhaps I'm one), but just because the other car companies have these doesn't mean that all is good with them. For example, some, though not all, are having a hell of a time with the G37's new 7 speed AT.

tm86it

I knew the next Acura would have a blind spot monitoring system... sure enough, it's shown on the acura site for the ZDX... sure wish they could have put it into the '09 TL... an excellent safety feature that really works.

PetesTL

For me, I don't care too much about adding more gadgets. I wish Acura would put the TL on a diet, increase efficiency, and add a little more power.

acura2009

For me the reason for Acura = gadgets/technology + good performance
If they take out the technology a bit and focus more on performance, i don't think that'll be acura I guess it's all bout finding the good balance.

lpe387tt

^^^^^^
What he said!

PetesTL

Yes, but in the 4G the focus has shifted more towards comfort and luxury. It's not the same balance as they had in the 3G. The Infiniti G37 has every bit as much technology and gadgets as the TL, but performance has been retained and even improved in some areas. I'm sure once the true Type-S comes out, they'll focus more on performance again.

KeithL

While the G can technically check off similar options on the list they are not in the same league. The G Nav is small and lower res than the 3G Nav was, and the SOW sound system is on par with the 3G ELS, not even close to the 4G ELS and the G AWD is als not in the same league. And let's not forget the voice commands, the 08 G removed commands that the 07 had and the while the Infiniti V6 is an awesome performace machine, it is technically lagging compared to the Acura. Where I think Infiniti is leading is styling I love the G Seda style and actually like their simplier yet still luxorious interior.

zippy

ZDX? What did I miss?

Colin

LOL a lot!

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/793/releases/4981

PetesTL

Yeah you can nitpick about some features here and there, but as a whole, the Infiniti offers as much gadgets and technology as Acura while at the same time offering more performance....they have shown year-after-year that those things are not mutually exclusive. It's not a coincidence that the G cars end up on Car and Drivers 10 best list on an annual basis. Yes, the Infiniti 3.7 V6 has some rough edges to it, but it's more powerful than Acura's (3.7) and more efficient. (The main reason why I chose the 4G is that the Infiniti's interior looks too dated to me and the car is just too commonplace).

zippy

Ahhhh, a CL replacement.

KeithL

I don't know about more efficient, form a horsepower perspective probably true, but from MPG, they only get decent number becasue the car is 400 lbs lighter and has a 7 spd Atuo and no AWD drag. I was oh so close to buying a G37 over the 4G, the technology was a big factor, had it been on same par as 4G TL I woudl likely be driving a G. The G had a bit more road noise, but was a nice riding car and a rocket!

SSFTSX

6 or 7 Speed auto are more effective for cars with more low end power. Lexus GS350/BMW535 achieves better or similar MPG than RWD G37 despite being heavier and bigger frontal area cars with 6 speed.
6 or 7 speed will not give any advantage to Acura with current engines.

Colin

Watch your mouth!

PetesTL

The next gen G37 V6's are supposed to have direct injection and even more power. Infiniti/Nissan has certainly come a long way.....back in the 80's and 90's, they were always playing second fiddle to Honda/Acura. Nowdays, Infiniti/Nissan is leading the pack in many areas such as engine technology and styling....their V6's are widely considered to be among the best V6's in the world. Acura's got some catching up to do.

wickie2000

For a company that is known for their engines,Honda is definately trailing in numerous areas.
Performance
Fuel efficiency
Torque output
Horsepower...

zippy

I've had two, I liked them.

PsychDoc

The problem with the G cars is engine noise. At first it's kind of cute, like a little boy reving up his first Tonka toy engine...vroom, vroom -- but it gets old after a while. That and the car's narrow dimensions that give the occupants a vaguely claustrophobic feeling. And the technology is a generation older that the TL. The nav screen alone is enough of a turn-off to rule out the G for me.

Colin

Wow, 25% of the CL sales right here in our little forum!

crxb

Acura could be on the bleeding edge like BMW - their cars using the N54 motors (twin turbo 6s w/ direct injection) - are having multiple fuel pump failures left and right - so much so bmw increased the fuel pump warranty to 10 years.
and they still haven't figured out how to fix the issue started w/ 2007s still happening w/ 2009 cars

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238271

Legend2TL

This is your opinion. Unless you work at Honda/Acura as a powertrain engineer and have access to the technical data you do not know.

In general (again general), higher number of gears work very well for smaller engines since the ratio's can be placed closer for more limited power bands and the torque curves are not as flat as larger motors (due to alot of reasons).

Legend2TL

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/au...0acurazdx.html

"Perhaps the most important advance on the 2010 Acura ZDX is the arrival of a six-speed automatic transmission, which has been notably absent from the MDX, TL and the RL flagship. We expect this six-speed to replace the company's five-speed automatic across the board for the 2010 model year."

If this is true my prediction of a 6AT 2010 TL made a few months ago on AZ would be proven true!