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Im not saying you shouldnt, just that i see no benefit from it. Its not like these engines are having issues. Though having said that i see the filter size that is "stock" or "recommended" for my 2ndgen is much larger than the 4th gen.
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^^^^^
This is like filling up a car, that only requires 91 octane, with 94 octane gas.
This is like filling up a car, that only requires 91 octane, with 94 octane gas.
#44
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Interesting comments. It's good to consider pros and cons on any issue. We live in a world where we are bombarded with ads and messages and exhortations that we "must" do or buy or have the latest material things. Don't believe everything you are told! Think.
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MID dipped to 10% and went in for a B1 service today. Brought my own oil and filter in to the dealer to performance the maintenance. I used mobil 1 extended performance synthetic oil and m110 oil filter. It is the first time using synthetic ( dealer used conventional for all the previous maintenance to save a couple $$, probably due to my 25month complimentary service that came along when I purchased the car).
My impression after the service was, the car idled quieter, reved faster and quieter, the gear shifts seemed to be more smooth.
I think I will never switch back to conventional again if all these are true, not just me fooling myself inside.
My impression after the service was, the car idled quieter, reved faster and quieter, the gear shifts seemed to be more smooth.
I think I will never switch back to conventional again if all these are true, not just me fooling myself inside.
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Might be a placebo effect but syn is a better choice than dino as long as you don’t go overboard on the price. I can see the engine quieter as the oil clean the lifters etc but I really would not bet my life that the car is quicker.
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Looks like walmart does not carry the correct filters, at least online, for our TL but the mobil 1extended performance filters I am seeing anywhere from $15 to $19 for a 2 pack.
Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil for 5 qt of 5w-20 is $27
Mobil 1 Extended Performance oil for 5 qt of 5w-20 is $27
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The VTEC system is made up of a hydraulic control system including the valve operation switchover system and hydraulic circuit built inside the valve lifter of paused valves. Dirty oil & varnish can make them sticky & they click.
The VTEC system is made up of a hydraulic control system including the valve operation switchover system and hydraulic circuit built inside the valve lifter of paused valves. Dirty oil & varnish can make them sticky & they click.
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In this diagram the item is a cam follower.
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If Honda calls it a lifter & ID's in their drawing that is good enough for me. Expect now you might want to get into a discussion of mechanical vs. hydraulic lifters & what is the best lubricant to use on them during a camshaft install?
Interesting thing, my daughter when she was 12 could set the mechanical tappets (another name for them) on my racing engines that I built.
Interesting thing, my daughter when she was 12 could set the mechanical tappets (another name for them) on my racing engines that I built.
#58
Will this fit on a 2009 tl? They have free shipping now and $5 off $25 when you sign up for emails. I use a b202 for the 2001. Its to big for the 2009.
https://www.zoro.com/baldwin-filters...=baldwin+b1431
https://www.zoro.com/baldwin-filters...=baldwin+b1431
#60
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Ford Motor Co. mades a very good motor in the 5.0 liter, V-8 which makes well over 400 HP in some applications like the Mustang Boss 302. It has a oil filter no bigger than the one in the TL. And in all my weekends at the race track, I have never heard any Mustang owners complain of a filtration problem after running lots of hard laps.
My point is that if that larger and more powerful engine does just fine with the same size OEM filter during lots of hard laps, I know my TL with a smaller motor will be more than capable of getting me down the highway without a filtration problem.
My point is that if that larger and more powerful engine does just fine with the same size OEM filter during lots of hard laps, I know my TL with a smaller motor will be more than capable of getting me down the highway without a filtration problem.
MID dipped to 10% and went in for a B1 service today. Brought my own oil and filter in to the dealer to performance the maintenance. I used mobil 1 extended performance synthetic oil and m110 oil filter. It is the first time using synthetic ( dealer used conventional for all the previous maintenance to save a couple $$, probably due to my 25month complimentary service that came along when I purchased the car).
My impression after the service was, the car idled quieter, reved faster and quieter, the gear shifts seemed to be more smooth.
I think I will never switch back to conventional again if all these are true, not just me fooling myself inside.
My impression after the service was, the car idled quieter, reved faster and quieter, the gear shifts seemed to be more smooth.
I think I will never switch back to conventional again if all these are true, not just me fooling myself inside.
On to the real problem... You say it was quieter, ok maybe. It revved quicker? How much hp do you think the oil is actually costing you? But ok, I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt. Gear shifts more smooth...... No. This goes to show how powerful the placebo effect is. It is 100% impossible for the engine oil to affect how the transmission shifts unless you're on a motorcycle with a common sump.
I literally, every single time, believe that my car idles more smoothly, has more power, and shifts better when I wash it. I know it's not true but it really feels that way, especially since I wash it twice a year and it's a drastic difference in looks.
It's also important to note that a 258hp TL engine will usually outlast the car it's in with any modern correct spec oil, no matter how cheap. I use Redline 0-40 in mine and have always used at least a 5-30 since the first oil change at 3,000 miles. It's overkill but I have the money and I live in a hot climate where my 30 and even 40wt oil is as thin as a 20wt in a colder climate so it's a matter of "why not".
With that said, the most important filter on the car is the engine air filter. This filter directly contributes to engine wear, primarily upper cylinder wear and later, journal bearing wear. Many cars didn't even use oil filters up to the 1950s but then again, life expectancy was 50,000 miles and OCIs were ~1,000 miles. With the advent of closed loop feedback EFI and no other mechanical changes, we saw a good 300% increase in engine life expectancy. So with fuel dilution and improper ignition timing out of the way caused from ancient carburetors and misfires caused from weak ignitions and incomplete AF burn from all of the above plus igniting it too early or too late, the air filter plays a more important role than ever.
If I was budget constrained and had to choose, I would run the cheapest oil filter that had a good anti drain back valve and put all of the money into the air filter. In our case it would be the awesome factory filter (seriously) with its 3 stage filtration (oil, foam, paper) along with using silicone seals to seal around the edges. There's a reason the factory used a cheap junk oil filter but used one of the best air filters I've seen.
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The stock filter information is: 20x1.5mm thread and 2.475"OD x 2.173"ID gasket.
The biggest I found that fits my TL (2012 3.7L) is a Amsoil EAO21.
(3.66" dia x 3.14" tall and 2.834"OD x 2.462"ID gasket).
See pictures here: https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-295/performance-oil-filter-one-do-you-use-872940/
If you prefer a different brand it can be cross referenced.
Baldwin also makes a Honda/Acura designated "long" filter but I'm not familiar with the brand. Baldwin B1431 (OEM dia and 4" long)
The biggest I found that fits my TL (2012 3.7L) is a Amsoil EAO21.
(3.66" dia x 3.14" tall and 2.834"OD x 2.462"ID gasket).
See pictures here: https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-295/performance-oil-filter-one-do-you-use-872940/
If you prefer a different brand it can be cross referenced.
Baldwin also makes a Honda/Acura designated "long" filter but I'm not familiar with the brand. Baldwin B1431 (OEM dia and 4" long)
This 3 7/16" long Baldwin will fit. I think the 4" is cutting it to close.
https://www.govets.com/index.php/bal...cxg-2lab3.html
Details:
https://ph.baldwinfilters.com/baldwi...specifications.
Other versions that will fit are the Baldwin B1400 and B1402. This brand is prob the best bang for the buck imo.
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