No A/C / Ventilated Seats...thoughts?
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Originally Posted by kobi2002
My wife drives an 06 is350 with this feature, and with living in south florida where your seat turns into a grill, yes this feature is real good! i guesss a 6AT would be a gimmick too ![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
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Unless it has a true A/C system in it (like the Lincoln Navigator or the MB S-Class), it's just a gimmick.
And as for a 6AT, I wouldn't know. Don't drive automatics.
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Unless it has a true A/C system in it (like the Lincoln Navigator or the MB S-Class), it's just a gimmick.
And as for a 6AT, I wouldn't know. Don't drive automatics.
Still, I think the TL would benefit from a 6 speed since it doesn't have the torque the CL500 does. It would be nice to have a close ratio 5speed with only 6th as the overdrive.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
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Unless it has a true A/C system in it (like the Lincoln Navigator or the MB S-Class), it's just a gimmick.
And as for a 6AT, I wouldn't know. Don't drive automatics.
Well, that's the point, isn't it? A FEATURE that you can choose...some will like it / want it, and some won't. But it's a moot point if the feature isn't available, gimmicky or not.
Kind of like the MT for the '09 TL, huh?
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
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Unless it has a true A/C system in it (like the Lincoln Navigator or the MB S-Class), it's just a gimmick.
And as for a 6AT, I wouldn't know. Don't drive automatics.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
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Unless it has a true A/C system in it (like the Lincoln Navigator or the MB S-Class), it's just a gimmick.
And as for a 6AT, I wouldn't know. Don't drive automatics.
I'd easily pay $500 or $600 more for those seats and think it is a share the TL won't include them. And, I think it is particularly notable because the direct competition (the Maxima) does have that feature.
Of course, no car is perfect and the TL has a great feature set. This is not make or break for me, but if I had to choose between to cars that are close together, the ventailated seats might make a difference.
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While life will go on without ventilated seats, it is a nice OPTION to have. I don't know if you guys noticed it or not, but some cars/trucks from the 80's and 90's (namely GM trucks) had a vent right underneath the steering column - which I appropriately named the crotch vent. I can vouch for the fact that it works. That would be a nice alternative also...
Ventilated seats do work. Hell, even going from leather to cloth seats is a huge difference. Acura should seriously consider having it as an option. I don't see why anyone is complaining about people complaining about it not being offered.
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Looking @ the button, all I see is Hi & Lo which suggests that it is only heated. My guess would be that ventilated seats will arrive w/ the MMC. If the MDX gets it then I think that it would be safe bet for the TL in 2012.
What does not make sense to me is that Acura had these since @ least 2005 w/ the Canadian RL & it took them like 4 years to bring it to the US. I understand the TSX or the RDX lacking this creature feature but the MDX & TL, both now in the $40k range, really should have this as @ least an option considering that they already make it. Debuting in the flagship RL is logical but it is definitely time to pass the goods around.
I have used them before & am a big enough fan that my next car will have to have them.
What does not make sense to me is that Acura had these since @ least 2005 w/ the Canadian RL & it took them like 4 years to bring it to the US. I understand the TSX or the RDX lacking this creature feature but the MDX & TL, both now in the $40k range, really should have this as @ least an option considering that they already make it. Debuting in the flagship RL is logical but it is definitely time to pass the goods around.
I have used them before & am a big enough fan that my next car will have to have them.
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BTW: The 2 setting heat function becomes effective much faster then the one in my TL.
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This is a great, underrated feature found in my old M35x and my Aviator. I have been hoping for this feature in the TL since 2004.
Chevy is now offering them, too in a sub $30k crossover. As someone mentioned, the 09 Maxima has them and the Genesis, too.
Chevy is now offering them, too in a sub $30k crossover. As someone mentioned, the 09 Maxima has them and the Genesis, too.
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#53
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I do think the 4G TL should have them -- the omission of these are counter to the "Acura Advance" motto. I mean, aren't we the same people that complained when mp3 CDs were not supported until the 2007 TL? After all, there were sub $20k cars that had this feature...
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This whole ventilated seat thing is over blown because they don't work as well as you might think. Just go down to your local Acura dealer and try out the '09 RL and you'll see for yourself that it's a gimmick. Did I expected to get frost bite on my ass when I used it? No, but you really won't feel a big difference. I don't think that it's a must have feature, but then again, if the competition has it, Acura needs to have it also. I think that cooled/heated cup holders would be more useful than the ventilated seats, based on how it performed.
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This whole ventilated seat thing is over blown because they don't work as well as you might think. Just go down to your local Acura dealer and try out the '09 RL and you'll see for yourself that it's a gimmick. Did I expected to get frost bite on my ass when I used it? No, but you really won't feel a big difference. I don't think that it's a must have feature, but then again, if the competition has it, Acura needs to have it also. I think that cooled/heated cup holders would be more useful than the ventilated seats, based on how it performed.
Go test drive a Caddy CTS on a hot day. The ventaliated seats are a pleasure. You feel like you are surrounded by cool dry air, and the leather sets don't have any of that sticky warm feeling (ok, I know that sounds sexual but that is not how I meant it!) on hot muggy days.
Now, it may be the case that the system in the RL does not work well, or it may also be that it is a system that you won't notice on a quick test drive but will enjoy over time.
Personally, I wish the TL had this feature. But, is it a make or break for me? Nope.
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This whole ventilated seat thing is over blown because they don't work as well as you might think. Just go down to your local Acura dealer and try out the '09 RL and you'll see for yourself that it's a gimmick. Did I expected to get frost bite on my ass when I used it? No, but you really won't feel a big difference. I don't think that it's a must have feature, but then again, if the competition has it, Acura needs to have it also. I think that cooled/heated cup holders would be more useful than the ventilated seats, based on how it performed.
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How am I making excuses? I could care less about some stupid ass ac seats because in all my years of driving I never had issues with my butt being so hot that I couldn't drive. This feature is a gimmick, even if it works perfectly, it's still a gimmick. And if you or anybody else wants to run and leave Acura because the TL doesn't have cooled seats, then get the steppin'!
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How am I making excuses? I could care less about some stupid ass ac seats because in all my years of driving I never had issues with my butt being so hot that I couldn't drive. This feature is a gimmick, even if it works perfectly, it's still a gimmick. And if you or anybody else wants to run and leave Acura because the TL doesn't have cooled seats, then get the steppin'!
My wifes IS350 has
14 speakers
ac seats
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better leathers
306 hp
bigger 4 piston brakes that work really well
led's for license plate
6 speed tranny
adaptive headlights
lights that light up when you get close to the car
compass on rear view
better cust service
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better map lights
better bluetooth conn for phone
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parking assist
I can go on and this was there since 06. I told myself that honda will pass this with the 4g Tl. now that the 4g tl comes out what is new and bold??
Please don't mention the weather for it is not a plane we are flying. i hardly used my traffic when I had it.
It'snot just about the ac seats but about going above your competion. Do you get that.? Even the hp does not pass the IS or the G35 or g37 for that matter. What do you think lexus and infiniti are going to do when they chage their cars in a few years???????
Your giving them excuses (honda) and they are killing my love for them
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Other than the IS & CTS, what other cars in this class have this feature?
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Its not just the seats on this car for me. Just ask yourself what new did acura bring to the table? Shawd was on the other models. Harddrive is nothing new. Weather I can say is a gimmick, And the pushstart has been around for awhile now. even lower modeled cars have this feature. Hell most of nissan's fleet has some kind of intellegent key. mitsubishi now offers fast key
. i stopped by my dealer a few days ago and most of the sales guys are down about the tl. That tells you somthing
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#63
I agree with Kobi2002.
A/C cooled seats are well worth the coin. I don't know where you guys live, but in Houston where the humidity is always high and the heat as well, it is a substantial feature.
Those of you who believe it is a gimmick have not sat in the car for a long 30-40 minute drive after the car has been sitting in the sun on a 95+ day.
I just picked up a new 335i coupe, and drove it around today in the rather mild heat. I could still feel the sweat getting ready to go even though the car was parked in the shade.
By comparison, I've sat in my pop's last gen lexus and I can say that there is a huge difference.
Anyhow, considering Acura had the opportunity to debut this option on a
$40k+ car, I think they did drop the ball here. Acura is marketing itself as "Advance;" while it may not be the fastest or best performing car on the road, it should have the most technoligical features. A/C seats should be part of that marketing image. $.02
A/C cooled seats are well worth the coin. I don't know where you guys live, but in Houston where the humidity is always high and the heat as well, it is a substantial feature.
Those of you who believe it is a gimmick have not sat in the car for a long 30-40 minute drive after the car has been sitting in the sun on a 95+ day.
I just picked up a new 335i coupe, and drove it around today in the rather mild heat. I could still feel the sweat getting ready to go even though the car was parked in the shade.
By comparison, I've sat in my pop's last gen lexus and I can say that there is a huge difference.
Anyhow, considering Acura had the opportunity to debut this option on a
$40k+ car, I think they did drop the ball here. Acura is marketing itself as "Advance;" while it may not be the fastest or best performing car on the road, it should have the most technoligical features. A/C seats should be part of that marketing image. $.02
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I agree with Kobi2002.
A/C cooled seats are well worth the coin. I don't know where you guys live, but in Houston where the humidity is always high and the heat as well, it is a substantial feature.
Those of you who believe it is a gimmick have not sat in the car for a long 30-40 minute drive after the car has been sitting in the sun on a 95+ day.
I just picked up a new 335i coupe, and drove it around today in the rather mild heat. I could still feel the sweat getting ready to go even though the car was parked in the shade.
By comparison, I've sat in my pop's last gen lexus and I can say that there is a huge difference.
Anyhow, considering Acura had the opportunity to debut this option on a
$40k+ car, I think they did drop the ball here. Acura is marketing itself as "Advance;" while it may not be the fastest or best performing car on the road, it should have the most technoligical features. A/C seats should be part of that marketing image. $.02
A/C cooled seats are well worth the coin. I don't know where you guys live, but in Houston where the humidity is always high and the heat as well, it is a substantial feature.
Those of you who believe it is a gimmick have not sat in the car for a long 30-40 minute drive after the car has been sitting in the sun on a 95+ day.
I just picked up a new 335i coupe, and drove it around today in the rather mild heat. I could still feel the sweat getting ready to go even though the car was parked in the shade.
By comparison, I've sat in my pop's last gen lexus and I can say that there is a huge difference.
Anyhow, considering Acura had the opportunity to debut this option on a
$40k+ car, I think they did drop the ball here. Acura is marketing itself as "Advance;" while it may not be the fastest or best performing car on the road, it should have the most technoligical features. A/C seats should be part of that marketing image. $.02
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#66
I guess everyone who thinks A/C seats are overrated lives in Alaska and has never had their shirt, underwear and shorts stick to their skin thanks to being saturated with sweat.
or simply they haven't tried it yet
If you get leather and live in a hot and humid climate, its a must.... I live in the relatively dry yet somewhat hot Bay Area. Sometimes, even with my A/C on full blast and on trips longer than 20 minutes my back will begin to stick to my seat.
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If you get leather and live in a hot and humid climate, its a must.... I live in the relatively dry yet somewhat hot Bay Area. Sometimes, even with my A/C on full blast and on trips longer than 20 minutes my back will begin to stick to my seat.
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I guess everyone who thinks A/C seats are overrated lives in Alaska and has never had their shirt, underwear and shorts stick to their skin thanks to being saturated with sweat.
or simply they haven't tried it yet
If you get leather and live in a hot and humid climate, its a must.... I live in the relatively dry yet somewhat hot Bay Area. Sometimes, even with my A/C on full blast and on trips longer than 20 minutes my back will begin to stick to my seat.
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If you get leather and live in a hot and humid climate, its a must.... I live in the relatively dry yet somewhat hot Bay Area. Sometimes, even with my A/C on full blast and on trips longer than 20 minutes my back will begin to stick to my seat.
I'm not saying that Acura should not have this feature, because the more features the better. Anything to make Acura more competitive I'm all for it. I just get tired of people complaining about bullshit that's all. Acura has given us pretty much everything that we wanted. We wanted 300 HP, got it. We wanted SH-AWD, got it. We wanted push button/keyless access, got it. We wanted full ipod integration/better sound system, got it. We wanted a hard drive, got it. We don't even have to hack our Navi anymore now that we can upload our own wallpapers now. We wanted better leather, etc. etc. The point that I'm making is that Acura has addressed almost everything feature wise that we asked for, but people still want to complain about Acura/Honda dropping the ball. Yes, they dropped the ball by not having a 6/7 speed transmission, I will agree on that. But to say that they dropped the ball because of a lack of some gimmick features, I don't agree, because that is nitpicking.
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I understand that you guys in California, Texas, Florida, etc. would love this feature because it's hot in those locations. But what I said was, the cooled seats in the '09 RL doesn't work that well to make a huge difference, therefore making it a gimmick just to say " Hey, we have this feature too!". If the feature doesn't really work then what's the point? I will buy a 4th gen TL, and if it were to have cooled seats, fine, if it didn't have cooled seats, that's fine too. I've been in Texas, Florida, and lived in Georgia and North Carolina, so I know what it's like to drive in hot, humid, sticky weather. Never once did I wish the car I was driving had cooled seats, especially if the damn AC was on! So if your back and legs are sticking to the seats, that tells me that your AC is not on/working properly. Or maybe something is wrong with your body temperature, I don't know.
I'm not saying that Acura should not have this feature, because the more features the better. Anything to make Acura more competitive I'm all for it. I just get tired of people complaining about bullshit that's all. Acura has given us pretty much everything that we wanted. We wanted 300 HP, got it. We wanted SH-AWD, got it. We wanted push button/keyless access, got it. We wanted full ipod integration/better sound system, got it. We wanted a hard drive, got it. We don't even have to hack our Navi anymore now that we can upload our own wallpapers now. We wanted better leather, etc. etc. The point that I'm making is that Acura has addressed almost everything feature wise that we asked for, but people still want to complain about Acura/Honda dropping the ball. Yes, they dropped the ball by not having a 6/7 speed transmission, I will agree on that. But to say that they dropped the ball because of a lack of some gimmick features, I don't agree, because that is nitpicking.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
I'm not saying that Acura should not have this feature, because the more features the better. Anything to make Acura more competitive I'm all for it. I just get tired of people complaining about bullshit that's all. Acura has given us pretty much everything that we wanted. We wanted 300 HP, got it. We wanted SH-AWD, got it. We wanted push button/keyless access, got it. We wanted full ipod integration/better sound system, got it. We wanted a hard drive, got it. We don't even have to hack our Navi anymore now that we can upload our own wallpapers now. We wanted better leather, etc. etc. The point that I'm making is that Acura has addressed almost everything feature wise that we asked for, but people still want to complain about Acura/Honda dropping the ball. Yes, they dropped the ball by not having a 6/7 speed transmission, I will agree on that. But to say that they dropped the ball because of a lack of some gimmick features, I don't agree, because that is nitpicking.
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I think ventilated seats are an amazing feature. Some cars work better than others. The seats in my Aviator are much better than the ones in the M35x I had. The air is not arctic, but I never stick to the seats and my entire body is cool when it is warm outside, not just my face.
I wouldn't leave Acura because they are absent, but I like them enough that I would look elsewhere to find them.
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Asking for those feature's you stated were 3 year ago. yeah we kinda got them but that still does not make it compete with the other companies. I'm not hung up on the ac seats like I am with the fact that acura to me does not stand out like they did when the 3g wasout. Do you think adaptive headlights or cruise control are gimmicks? The competition has them. And as far as the Rl ac seats not working, i can't answer that but my wifes car i have to turn it off at times because it work really well
Also, if Acura put all or most of the features we are discussing in '07-'08 TL, who the hell would buy an '09 TL? These features need to be strategially implemented into the TL, or there would be no incentive/reason to buy the newest model year car. Contrary to what some might believe, Acura is trying to make money you know. If Acura loads up the '09 TL with every feature we want, then what would be the point of putting out a TL in '10, '11? I'm hoping that the features we want will be addressed throughout the 4th gen. But every auto maker has features that are almost exclusive to their brand, because every auto maker feels certain features are more important than other auto makers might feel. It's up to us consumers to go with the brand that better appeals to our desires, wants and needs.
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Hell, if the cooled seats work great I'm all for it. I'm all for any feature being put in an Acura, as long as it works well. No, I don't think that adaptive headlights or laser guided cruise control (I hope that's what you meant) are gimmicks because they are very useful features that we can ALL use, plus they're safety features.
Also, if Acura put all or most of the features we are discussing in '07-'08 TL, who the hell would buy an '09 TL? These features need to be strategially implemented into the TL, or there would be no incentive/reason to buy the newest model year car. Contrary to what some might believe, Acura is trying to make money you know. If Acura loads up the '09 TL with every feature we want, then what would be the point of putting out a TL in '10, '11? I'm hoping that the features we want will be addressed throughout the 4th gen. But every auto maker has features that are almost exclusive to their brand, because every auto maker feels certain features are more important than other auto makers might feel. It's up to us consumers to go with the brand that better appeals to our desires, wants and needs.
Also, if Acura put all or most of the features we are discussing in '07-'08 TL, who the hell would buy an '09 TL? These features need to be strategially implemented into the TL, or there would be no incentive/reason to buy the newest model year car. Contrary to what some might believe, Acura is trying to make money you know. If Acura loads up the '09 TL with every feature we want, then what would be the point of putting out a TL in '10, '11? I'm hoping that the features we want will be addressed throughout the 4th gen. But every auto maker has features that are almost exclusive to their brand, because every auto maker feels certain features are more important than other auto makers might feel. It's up to us consumers to go with the brand that better appeals to our desires, wants and needs.
There are a lot of vehicles that cost less than the TL that offer most of the items people in this thread are seeking.
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I understand that you guys in California, Texas, Florida, etc. would love this feature because it's hot in those locations. But what I said was, the cooled seats in the '09 RL doesn't work that well to make a huge difference, therefore making it a gimmick just to say " Hey, we have this feature too!". If the feature doesn't really work then what's the point? I will buy a 4th gen TL, and if it were to have cooled seats, fine, if it didn't have cooled seats, that's fine too. I've been in Texas, Florida, and lived in Georgia and North Carolina, so I know what it's like to drive in hot, humid, sticky weather. Never once did I wish the car I was driving had cooled seats, especially if the damn AC was on! So if your back and legs are sticking to the seats, that tells me that your AC is not on/working properly. Or maybe something is wrong with your body temperature, I don't know.
I'm not saying that Acura should not have this feature, because the more features the better. Anything to make Acura more competitive I'm all for it. I just get tired of people complaining about bullshit that's all. Acura has given us pretty much everything that we wanted. We wanted 300 HP, got it. We wanted SH-AWD, got it. We wanted push button/keyless access, got it. We wanted full ipod integration/better sound system, got it. We wanted a hard drive, got it. We don't even have to hack our Navi anymore now that we can upload our own wallpapers now. We wanted better leather, etc. etc. The point that I'm making is that Acura has addressed almost everything feature wise that we asked for, but people still want to complain about Acura/Honda dropping the ball. Yes, they dropped the ball by not having a 6/7 speed transmission, I will agree on that. But to say that they dropped the ball because of a lack of some gimmick features, I don't agree, because that is nitpicking.![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
I'm not saying that Acura should not have this feature, because the more features the better. Anything to make Acura more competitive I'm all for it. I just get tired of people complaining about bullshit that's all. Acura has given us pretty much everything that we wanted. We wanted 300 HP, got it. We wanted SH-AWD, got it. We wanted push button/keyless access, got it. We wanted full ipod integration/better sound system, got it. We wanted a hard drive, got it. We don't even have to hack our Navi anymore now that we can upload our own wallpapers now. We wanted better leather, etc. etc. The point that I'm making is that Acura has addressed almost everything feature wise that we asked for, but people still want to complain about Acura/Honda dropping the ball. Yes, they dropped the ball by not having a 6/7 speed transmission, I will agree on that. But to say that they dropped the ball because of a lack of some gimmick features, I don't agree, because that is nitpicking.
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What the heck is wrong with asking for all the features you desire on a vehicle that you are spending $35,000 to $42,000 on? I really don't see anything "nitpicky" with people expressing diappointment that the TL doesn't have specific features they hoped for - particularly when cars costing thousands less (like the Lincoln) already have it and when some of the prime competitors in the segment also have it.
No offense meant - but the comment that "something is wrong with your body temperature" if you want cooled seats is a little silly. If you had driven a car with those kinds of seats implemented well you might see things a bit differently. There is nothing wrong with my body temp, or the A/C in my car, but I do get a sweaty back on hot days.
And, the idea that Acura is holding features off so they have new things to add later (as you suggest) doesn't help me much. I interested in what the car has that I'm actually going to buy - not what Acura marketing thinks is necessary ot hold in reserve for future upgrades.
I also have to say that not many posters here (even posters who would really like A/C seats - like myself) see this as "make-or-break." Its just a potentially nice feature that the TL doesn't have - that we wish it did.
I'm seriously considering cars that don't have A/C seats (like a 3-series, TL) as well as cars that do (Maxima, CTS).
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while ventelated seats are nice, they are not going to deter me from buying a TL, the looks on the other hand are more than enough deterrant.....
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What the heck is wrong with asking for all the features you desire on a vehicle that you are spending $35,000 to $42,000 on? I really don't see anything "nitpicky" with people expressing diappointment that the TL doesn't have specific features they hoped for - particularly when cars costing thousands less (like the Lincoln) already have it and when some of the prime competitors in the segment also have it.
No offense meant - but the comment that "something is wrong with your body temperature" if you want cooled seats is a little silly. If you had driven a car with those kinds of seats implemented well you might see things a bit differently. There is nothing wrong with my body temp, or the A/C in my car, but I do get a sweaty back on hot days.
And, the idea that Acura is holding features off so they have new things to add later (as you suggest) doesn't help me much. I interested in what the car has that I'm actually going to buy - not what Acura marketing thinks is necessary ot hold in reserve for future upgrades.
I also have to say that not many posters here (even posters who would really like A/C seats - like myself) see this as "make-or-break." Its just a potentially nice feature that the TL doesn't have - that we wish it did.
I'm seriously considering cars that don't have A/C seats (like a 3-series, TL) as well as cars that do (Maxima, CTS).
No offense meant - but the comment that "something is wrong with your body temperature" if you want cooled seats is a little silly. If you had driven a car with those kinds of seats implemented well you might see things a bit differently. There is nothing wrong with my body temp, or the A/C in my car, but I do get a sweaty back on hot days.
And, the idea that Acura is holding features off so they have new things to add later (as you suggest) doesn't help me much. I interested in what the car has that I'm actually going to buy - not what Acura marketing thinks is necessary ot hold in reserve for future upgrades.
I also have to say that not many posters here (even posters who would really like A/C seats - like myself) see this as "make-or-break." Its just a potentially nice feature that the TL doesn't have - that we wish it did.
I'm seriously considering cars that don't have A/C seats (like a 3-series, TL) as well as cars that do (Maxima, CTS).
#75
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Well there is nothing wrong with anyone wanting certain features in the new TL, because Lord knows there are features that I would've liked that are not present. We can't get EVERYTHING that we want, life just doesn't work that way. Show me one car manufacturer that gives you every feature you want? Good luck finding one. Don't get me wrong, I understand that many of you were looking for certain features in the TL, as I was too. Just give them time, they might come through for us, or they might not. If they don't, then feel free to go buy another car that makes your heart content. Trust me, if Acura fails to provide me with the style, features, service, reliability and value that I've become accustom to, then I will be taking my happy ass elsewhere too. If some of you are already at that point, then fine, I wish you all well and hope that you find what you're looking for.
I guess I don't see anything wrong with potential buyers having discussions about missing features.
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#77
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C'mon, guys. We're all friends here at Acurazine. No need to snipe at each other because we disagree.
#78
Acura could have added this feature, I assume quite easily. I dont see why they didnt. And while you guys might think its a stupid gimmick, there are people that will not buy the car because of this. You guys could care less, but Acura does care. It just doesnt make sense why they would not add it as least as an option.
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Acura could have added this feature, I assume quite easily. I dont see why they didnt. And while you guys might think its a stupid gimmick, there are people that will not buy the car because of this. You guys could care less, but Acura does care. It just doesnt make sense why they would not add it as least as an option.
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I agree....
It's an important feature that the competition has...and comes in very handy for those especially in very HOT climates. When it works well...it really kicks ass
It's an important feature that the competition has...and comes in very handy for those especially in very HOT climates. When it works well...it really kicks ass