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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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No A/C / Ventilated Seats...thoughts?

So I'm rather bummed that I don't see any mention of AC/Cooled/Ventilated seats...

any thoughts as to why?

I do see the push button start which is nice, I think the interior is gorgeous, I'm bent on the center navi knob

but the orange colored leather with that interior looks VERY sharp....I just wished they had a red leather
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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I'm sure there are things left off that will be added during the course of the model's lifespan. Nothing new here and every manufacturer does it.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Tl is always aimed at 3 series , C class , IS.
I think all these cars has no ventilated seat. (not sure though , please don't quote me on this)

I guess they reserve these features for higher end model, like RL 5 series?
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lemonade
Tl is always aimed at 3 series , C class , IS.
I think all these cars has no ventilated seat. (not sure though , please don't quote me on this)

I guess they reserve these features for higher end model, like RL 5 series?
don't worry: the IS has ventilated front seats.. the BMW3 not. The C class I don't know actually...
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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I think this was a bad move. My dads car has this feature and its awesome.
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
I think this was a bad move. My dads car has this feature and its awesome.
well.. in fact the ventilated seats are the ONLY difference betw. the TL 09 and the RL 09...
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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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oh wow interesting...yeah the IS has AC seats...I would love this feature. I had it in some 'lac I rented in FL a few months ago, and it was amazing
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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I dunno, I think AC seats are kind of a gimmick. I rarely to never wear shorts so I don't I would notice a significant difference. My friend has an IS 350. The AC seat took time to cool up and by that time the car's AC was already pretty cool. I wouldn't opt for it if it were an option but it would be nice if I had the choice.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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Do we know for sure the TL won't have them? I know they're not mentioned specifically in reviews, but there probably at lots of features that aren't.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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The RL with vented seats has 6 LEDs to show the level of heating or cooling. The TL does not appear to have the feature. It would be very un-Honda like to use different seat switches if the switches were doing the same function.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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How can you compare the TL to 3series and C-class when the TL is BIGGER than the 5series and E-class. Almost touching S-class/7series territory.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Most people compare on either size or price. If you try to factor both in, there are few cars that directly compare with the TL
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by whatjones911
How can you compare the TL to 3series and C-class when the TL is BIGGER than the 5series and E-class. Almost touching S-class/7series territory.
Comparing it in size to the 5 and E okay but the 7 and S? I don't think so.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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I think this is a **BIG** miss on Acura's part. For them to claim to be so technology advanced and they miss this very important feature for a car in this class/price range.

The Lexus ES has this feature (and it came out before the TL)...even the 09 Maxima has this.

Very disappointing.....
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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what would it take to add A/C to the seats?
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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I like features and all but, come on, are we men here, do we need to complain about not having AC in the seats? I never thought I would see the day when the cold air coming out of the vents was not enough.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bigred123
I think this is a **BIG** miss on Acura's part.
Not having air conditioned seats is a big miss? WTF is the world coming to when people start griping that their ass is too hot.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 12:40 AM
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Not having air conditioned seats is a big miss? WTF is the world coming to when people start griping that their ass is too hot.
If it were a $20K or even a $30K car I can understand your logic BUT this new TL is a $40K+ car and therefore it gets compared with other $40K cars and guess what... Yep, other $40K cars HAVE this feature so....
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
If it were a $20K or even a $30K car I can understand your logic BUT this new TL is a $40K+ car and therefore it gets compared with other $40K cars and guess what... Yep, other $40K cars HAVE this feature so....

I dunno, my 335 was $52k, no coooled seats.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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I test drove an RL on a hot day (wearing shorts) and couldn't even feel the cooled seat unless I put my hands directly on it. No big loss.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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I'm not sure about you guys, but sometimes after a long trip i enjoy smelling my grundle! Vented seats would put a damper on this activity!! hahaha.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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they spent the money they would on AC seats to produce the grill. that thing must weigh a sheez load

but really, i can live without ac seats if acura shows that they have something else but similarly cool in its place
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Razzi
they spent the money they would on AC seats to produce the grill. that thing must weigh a sheez load

but really, i can live without ac seats if acura shows that they have something else but similarly cool in its place
Wha? Something else but similarly cool? Does anyone have any idea what this guy is trying to say?
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
If it were a $20K or even a $30K car I can understand your logic BUT this new TL is a $40K+ car and therefore it gets compared with other $40K cars and guess what... Yep, other $40K cars HAVE this feature so....
If it's a worthless feature, why have it? The only reason is "because others have it".
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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First of all, few cars have "A/C" seats. That would imply having a compressor to pull the moisture from that area of the vehicle. Most cars have vented seats, which are simply a series of fans that are used to push air around and keep it circulating.

So this begs the question, how many of you bitching about the TL not having the vented seats have actually tried this feature on other cars?

I have and I can honestly say it is little more than a gimmick. It makes basically no difference in the actual comfort of the seat, even on the hottest of days. Not worth a couple hundred dollars more added to the price of a car.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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While we're talking features, I would take the auto folding passenger side mirror that Mercedes have (at least the CL that I drove) for tight parking garage spaces. That would be much more beneficial than air conditioned seats. Instead of the AWD I would take the active suspension (like the ABC on Mercedes), again, much more beneficial and prices should be similar.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Then buy a Maxima or an IS. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy the 09 TL.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:25 AM
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Bitching over such a lame feature, is well, lame.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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I could give a damn about vented seats...I would rather have heated/cooled cup holders
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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And I would rather a 6 or 7 speed auto (like DSG).
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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they have to draw the line between the RL and the TL somewhere, right? lol
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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And I would rather a 6 or 7 speed auto (like DSG).
and a MT option!
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by godizus
I could give a damn about vented seats...I would rather have heated/cooled cup holders
Mine cool with the AC on and heat with the heater on. I've always wondered if they're supposed to do that or if I have a leak to the rear vents in the center console. It's not just a little heat and cold, it will cool off a coke from room temperature.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Mine cool with the AC on and heat with the heater on. I've always wondered if they're supposed to do that or if I have a leak to the rear vents in the center console. It's not just a little heat and cold, it will cool off a coke from room temperature.
I don't care about heated / cooled cupholders...that's pushing it.

But, having a woman that is always cold is a pain in the ass. And, dual-climate control doesn't help when she has hers on 78 and I have mine on "cold". The interior just gets cold, and she complains. I end up having to turn my climate control temp to 72-ish. Ventilated seats would definitely help this...it's not a deal breaker, but just something to seal the deal!

And, a car in the upper $30's to lower $40's should have this feature..esp since the Maxima has it. Honestly, the Max is looking sweeter and sweeter (both from a price perspective and visual perspective)! When the direct competition has it, that's not good.

Also, I totally agree with the 6AT or 7AT option!
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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I don't care about heated / cooled cupholders...that's pushing it.

But, having a woman that is always cold is a pain in the ass. And, dual-climate control doesn't help when she has hers on 78 and I have mine on "cold". The interior just gets cold, and she complains. I end up having to turn my climate control temp to 72-ish. Ventilated seats would definitely help this...it's not a deal breaker, but just something to seal the deal!

And, a car in the upper $30's to lower $40's should have this feature..esp since the Maxima has it. Honestly, the Max is looking sweeter and sweeter (both from a price perspective and visual perspective)! When the direct competition has it, that's not good.

Also, I totally agree with the 6AT or 7AT option!
Throw a woman into the mix and all bets are off. I can see your point on this one. I do the same thing with the heated seats. If she's hot and I'm cold I turn the seat on and let the air cool her off. When it's the other way around I wouldn't dare tell her to turn the seat heater on, I just take it like a man and suffer to avoid more suffering later on.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gauravp123
So I'm rather bummed that I don't see any mention of AC/Cooled/Ventilated seats...

Same here....ventilated seats are a great option. That and auto-folding side mirrors.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Throw a woman into the mix and all bets are off. I can see your point on this one. I do the same thing with the heated seats. If she's hot and I'm cold I turn the seat on and let the air cool her off. When it's the other way around I wouldn't dare tell her to turn the seat heater on, I just take it like a man and suffer to avoid more suffering later on.
Yep, you're right...features are only valuable when applicable! And, to each his / her own. But, when the competition has it, I see it as a let-down. And it's not "bitching" as others have described it...just a voiced opinion (which is the point of a forum, right??).

BTW, I'm sorry I had to bring the opposite sex into this!
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Throw a woman into the mix and all bets are off. I can see your point on this one. I do the same thing with the heated seats. If she's hot and I'm cold I turn the seat on and let the air cool her off. When it's the other way around I wouldn't dare tell her to turn the seat heater on, I just take it like a man and suffer to avoid more suffering later on.
Hilarious, and absolutely true! Hahaha...
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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First of all, few cars have "A/C" seats. That would imply having a compressor to pull the moisture from that area of the vehicle. Most cars have vented seats, which are simply a series of fans that are used to push air around and keep it circulating.

So this begs the question, how many of you bitching about the TL not having the vented seats have actually tried this feature on other cars?

I have and I can honestly say it is little more than a gimmick. It makes basically no difference in the actual comfort of the seat, even on the hottest of days. Not worth a couple hundred dollars more added to the price of a car.
My wife drives an 06 is350 with this feature, and with living in south florida where your seat turns into a grill, yes this feature is real good! i guesss a 6AT would be a gimmick too
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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they have to draw the line between the RL and the TL somewhere, right? lol
No.Because the tl will still outsell the rl so it would not matter.
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