My 4G TL Verdict....
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My 4G TL Verdict....
Ladies and Gentleman,
I felt like writing a little verdict on the 4G TL...I live in NJ one of the most populated and highly driven states on the East Coast.
Since the Nissan GT-R was released approx around the same time as the 4G TL I can say I have seen a GT-R before I have seen a 4G.
I have seen 3 ferrari 430's since the release of the 4G TL.
I have seen 1 Lambo and 1 Lambo Kit car since the 4G TL release.
I have even seen 2 toyota supras since the 4G TL release.
The one car I haven't seen driving around from Freehold NJ -> Metuchen NJ daily on major highways.....
The 4G TL.
Verdict: Acura killed the TL.
There's days I can't not pass 50-60 3G TL's on the road but its been months now...and still not 1 4G TL has passed me. I've seen a freaking GT-R....and I can prove it:
This is a sad day. I have to take my 3G TL into service at my dealer and I'm going to ask them how bad sales have plummited I feel really bad...it can't be good...
hell you know it can't be good when dealers are trying their best to alter the appearance of the vehicle with custom paint jobs to get rid of the fake chrome look.
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I felt like writing a little verdict on the 4G TL...I live in NJ one of the most populated and highly driven states on the East Coast.
Since the Nissan GT-R was released approx around the same time as the 4G TL I can say I have seen a GT-R before I have seen a 4G.
I have seen 3 ferrari 430's since the release of the 4G TL.
I have seen 1 Lambo and 1 Lambo Kit car since the 4G TL release.
I have even seen 2 toyota supras since the 4G TL release.
The one car I haven't seen driving around from Freehold NJ -> Metuchen NJ daily on major highways.....
The 4G TL.
Verdict: Acura killed the TL.
There's days I can't not pass 50-60 3G TL's on the road but its been months now...and still not 1 4G TL has passed me. I've seen a freaking GT-R....and I can prove it:
This is a sad day. I have to take my 3G TL into service at my dealer and I'm going to ask them how bad sales have plummited I feel really bad...it can't be good...
hell you know it can't be good when dealers are trying their best to alter the appearance of the vehicle with custom paint jobs to get rid of the fake chrome look.
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#8
Maybe you just have bad timing. I saw one not far from you, on route 1, in Edison. I was on my way to the new Walmart Saturday. It was my third on the road spotting. I must say that I hate the rear more than the front. That chrome piece really ruins it for me.
I still want one though. I'm just waiting for them to make some sort of deal on them. Be sure and post what your dealer says. My 04 is getting a bit old, but I can wait.
I still want one though. I'm just waiting for them to make some sort of deal on them. Be sure and post what your dealer says. My 04 is getting a bit old, but I can wait.
#9
Honda Fanboy
It took me a few months to see a 3g when they first came out also and live in Southern California. That doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't matter how good the TL is. In this economy, it is impossible to sell a car.
It doesn't matter how good the TL is. In this economy, it is impossible to sell a car.
#11
Why buy another TL that will have no after market support when you could buy an Evo X or STi for the same price with a much funner aftermarket.
Better yet get a last year model BMW 3series or Infinite.
Theres no way for the cost of the 09 TL I'd choose it over the cars its put itself in the price range of.
Better yet get a last year model BMW 3series or Infinite.
Theres no way for the cost of the 09 TL I'd choose it over the cars its put itself in the price range of.
#12
Three Wheelin'
Ladies and Gentleman,
I felt like writing a little verdict on the 4G TL...I live in NJ one of the most populated and highly driven states on the East Coast.
Since the Nissan GT-R was released approx around the same time as the 4G TL I can say I have seen a GT-R before I have seen a 4G.
I have seen 3 ferrari 430's since the release of the 4G TL.
I have seen 1 Lambo and 1 Lambo Kit car since the 4G TL release.
I have even seen 2 toyota supras since the 4G TL release.
The one car I haven't seen driving around from Freehold NJ -> Metuchen NJ daily on major highways.....
The 4G TL.
Verdict: Acura killed the TL.
There's days I can't not pass 50-60 3G TL's on the road but its been months now...and still not 1 4G TL has passed me. I've seen a freaking GT-R....and I can prove it:
This is a sad day. I have to take my 3G TL into service at my dealer and I'm going to ask them how bad sales have plummited I feel really bad...it can't be good...
hell you know it can't be good when dealers are trying their best to alter the appearance of the vehicle with custom paint jobs to get rid of the fake chrome look.
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I felt like writing a little verdict on the 4G TL...I live in NJ one of the most populated and highly driven states on the East Coast.
Since the Nissan GT-R was released approx around the same time as the 4G TL I can say I have seen a GT-R before I have seen a 4G.
I have seen 3 ferrari 430's since the release of the 4G TL.
I have seen 1 Lambo and 1 Lambo Kit car since the 4G TL release.
I have even seen 2 toyota supras since the 4G TL release.
The one car I haven't seen driving around from Freehold NJ -> Metuchen NJ daily on major highways.....
The 4G TL.
Verdict: Acura killed the TL.
There's days I can't not pass 50-60 3G TL's on the road but its been months now...and still not 1 4G TL has passed me. I've seen a freaking GT-R....and I can prove it:
This is a sad day. I have to take my 3G TL into service at my dealer and I'm going to ask them how bad sales have plummited I feel really bad...it can't be good...
hell you know it can't be good when dealers are trying their best to alter the appearance of the vehicle with custom paint jobs to get rid of the fake chrome look.
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Your "verdict?!" Please, get a life and stay off the 4G boards...we have enough troll garbage around here for you to start adding more. ......and I don't want to hear anymore, "I rather have a G......or a BMW.....or _______(fill in the blank)"........we know you hate the 4G, so go buy whatever tickles your fancy and leave us 4G owners alone.
#13
Whoa Pete...lol you realize I was like the first person to provide pictures/reviews of the 4G right. I'm an acura fan i'm just not surprised by the lack of anyone buying them.
#14
Honda Fanboy
You can also get a Mustang GT for the price of a TL, so what? There are a lot of cars for the price of the TL that you can get. You could have gotten a EVO or Sti also for the price you paid for your FWD 3g TL. Not everyone, including you, cares about flat-out balls-to-the-wall performance when you get to the TL's price range. If they do, then they can wait for the 2010 TL which smoked two 335's and a G35 on a track.
#15
Three Wheelin'
Sorry, Crucifer....didn't mean to go off on you like that (havin a bad day at work). You're entitled to your opinion and comments just like eveyone else.
#16
Just because you have not seen any doesn't mean that nobody is buying them. The SH-AWD model has only been on sale for less than two weeks and the FWD model for less than two months. I'm not even sure if all dealers have a full stock of the SH-AWD model yet. Your dismissing a car that has not even had production fully ramped up yet that has been on sale for less than two months simply because you have not seen one on the road yet. Thats about as scientific of a test as it gets.
You can also get a Mustang GT for the price of a TL, so what? There are a lot of cars for the price of the TL that you can get. You could have gotten a EVO or Sti also for the price you paid for your FWD 3g TL. Not everyone, including you, cares about flat-out balls-to-the-wall performance when you get to the TL's price range. If they do, then they can wait for the 2010 TL which smoked two 335's and a G35 on a track.
You can also get a Mustang GT for the price of a TL, so what? There are a lot of cars for the price of the TL that you can get. You could have gotten a EVO or Sti also for the price you paid for your FWD 3g TL. Not everyone, including you, cares about flat-out balls-to-the-wall performance when you get to the TL's price range. If they do, then they can wait for the 2010 TL which smoked two 335's and a G35 on a track.
Thus I put the GT-R in the thread above which has been out about the same ammount of time costs tons more...and in this economy is a shocker he was able to get it.
The point is you are talking about TL's theres absolutely a bazillion people driving a 3G TL and I can't tell you how many i see a day because i lose track counting...to not see one of those 3G's convert to a 4G just shows that something is wrong...you are supposed to want to upgrade to a new year....it seems like no one wants to around here...and being as big of a state that NJ is thats not good.
#18
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Thus I put the GT-R in the thread above which has been out about the same ammount of time costs tons more...and in this economy is a shocker he was able to get it.
The point is you are talking about TL's theres absolutely a bazillion people driving a 3G TL and I can't tell you how many i see a day because i lose track counting...to not see one of those 3G's convert to a 4G just shows that something is wrong...you are supposed to want to upgrade to a new year....it seems like no one wants to around here...and being as big of a state that NJ is thats not good.
The point is you are talking about TL's theres absolutely a bazillion people driving a 3G TL and I can't tell you how many i see a day because i lose track counting...to not see one of those 3G's convert to a 4G just shows that something is wrong...you are supposed to want to upgrade to a new year....it seems like no one wants to around here...and being as big of a state that NJ is thats not good.
The 3G TL has been on sale for over FIIIIIIVEEE years. How can you realistically compare the number of 3G's you see on the road with the 4G which has not even been on sale for two months?
Of course everyone WANTS to upgrade to the latest and greatest thing. However, not everyone CAN. The economy sucks and the middle-class (the group of people that buy cars in the TL's class) are getting hammered. Your missing the fact that nobody is buying cars right now even if they want to.
Lets say I want to replace my 2008 Ferrari for a 2009 Ferrari but I can't afford it. Just because you see me still driving my 2008 Ferrari, does that mean I don't want the 2009?
Answer this for me honestly. Do you seriously believe that just because you have not seen a car on the road that has only been in production for about 1.5 months (not even full production at that) which to most people would be considered a luxury car (and therefore an unnecessary expenditure) in an economy that is constantly being compared to the Great Depression, it is a failure? Seriously, really think about this one. Think loooong and haaaard.
P.S.
Look down, you can get your EVO for 0% financing.
#20
GT-R's are in stock at So Cal dealerships. Whats so shocking about someone being able to get one?
The 3G TL has been on sale for over FIIIIIIVEEE years. How can you realistically compare the number of 3G's you see on the road with the 4G which has not even been on sale for two months?
Of course everyone WANTS to upgrade to the latest and greatest thing. However, not everyone CAN. The economy sucks and the middle-class (the group of people that buy cars in the TL's class) are getting hammered. Your missing the fact that nobody is buying cars right now even if they want to.
Lets say I want to replace my 2008 Ferrari for a 2009 Ferrari but I can't afford it. Just because you see me still driving my 2008 Ferrari, does that mean I don't want the 2009?
Answer this for me honestly. Do you seriously believe that just because you have not seen a car on the road that has only been in production for about 1.5 months (not even full production at that) which to most people would be considered a luxury car (and therefore an unnecessary expenditure) in an economy that is constantly being compared to the Great Depression, it is a failure? Seriously, really think about this one. Think loooong and haaaard.
P.S.
Look down, you can get your EVO for 0% financing.
The 3G TL has been on sale for over FIIIIIIVEEE years. How can you realistically compare the number of 3G's you see on the road with the 4G which has not even been on sale for two months?
Of course everyone WANTS to upgrade to the latest and greatest thing. However, not everyone CAN. The economy sucks and the middle-class (the group of people that buy cars in the TL's class) are getting hammered. Your missing the fact that nobody is buying cars right now even if they want to.
Lets say I want to replace my 2008 Ferrari for a 2009 Ferrari but I can't afford it. Just because you see me still driving my 2008 Ferrari, does that mean I don't want the 2009?
Answer this for me honestly. Do you seriously believe that just because you have not seen a car on the road that has only been in production for about 1.5 months (not even full production at that) which to most people would be considered a luxury car (and therefore an unnecessary expenditure) in an economy that is constantly being compared to the Great Depression, it is a failure? Seriously, really think about this one. Think loooong and haaaard.
P.S.
Look down, you can get your EVO for 0% financing.
#21
Honda Fanboy
#22
The point is its amazing to see someone able to afford and drive a GT-R before anyone is able to afford/want to drive/and driving the #2 most driven luxury sport in the nation.
You don't seem to be getting the point of this topic =/
You don't seem to be getting the point of this topic =/
#23
Honda Fanboy
That aside, feel free to answer my question when your up to it. Your just digging your self a deeper and deeper hole.
#24
You clearly do not understand the issues of the economy or the point of this thread.
The banks are not writing loans 1. if your credit isn't perfect. 2. their not writing big loans atm.
Thus the issues were having.
But again I'm not going to explain the world around you.
The banks are not writing loans 1. if your credit isn't perfect. 2. their not writing big loans atm.
Thus the issues were having.
But again I'm not going to explain the world around you.
#25
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Maybe you just have bad timing. I saw one not far from you, on route 1, in Edison. I was on my way to the new Walmart Saturday. It was my third on the road spotting. I must say that I hate the rear more than the front. That chrome piece really ruins it for me.
I still want one though. I'm just waiting for them to make some sort of deal on them. Be sure and post what your dealer says. My 04 is getting a bit old, but I can wait.
I still want one though. I'm just waiting for them to make some sort of deal on them. Be sure and post what your dealer says. My 04 is getting a bit old, but I can wait.
#26
Honda Fanboy
You clearly do not understand the issues of the economy or the point of this thread.
The banks are not writing loans 1. if your credit isn't perfect. 2. their not writing big loans atm.
Thus the issues were having.
But again I'm not going to explain the world around you.
The banks are not writing loans 1. if your credit isn't perfect. 2. their not writing big loans atm.
Thus the issues were having.
But again I'm not going to explain the world around you.
So what you are saying is that banks are not giving loans and thats an issue were having when it comes to car buying? Is that what you are saying? Because if so, that goes along with the ECONOMY having an affect on consumer purchasing. Not to mention that consumer confidence is at a record low.
I don't want you to explain YOUR view of the world around me because according to you that world involves you not seeing any 4G TL's 1.5 months after the release, thus leaving us with a failed TL.
Your clear avoidance of my question says a lot.
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All who haven't seen the 4G TL please fill out the information below and I will be there to ensure you see one on the road and PROVE to you that they are selling...:0).
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All who haven't seen the 4G TL please fill out the information below and I will be there to ensure you see one on the road and PROVE to you that they are selling...:0).
state/country
local hwy/interstate
date time you will be on hwy
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#28
Three Wheelin'
There are plenty of ugly cars out there on the road. The fact that there aren't many 4G TLs out there as of yet is probably not entirely because of esthetics. Come to think of it, the 4G doesn't look that bad.
#29
Happy Holidays!
I'm here in the SF bay area and I still have not seen a 4G yet. I really do want to see it though because I want to make a judgement in person and not through pictures. I am actually making an effort to spot one while I drive but no luck. I've mistaken a new TSX one time and also a few Lexus GS. LOL. OOOH snap! It's the new TL ----- awwww sh1t it's the Lexus GS again!!! arghh!!
#31
Burning Brakes
Ladies and Gentleman,
I felt like writing a little verdict on the 4G TL...I live in NJ one of the most populated and highly driven states on the East Coast.
Since the Nissan GT-R was released approx around the same time as the 4G TL I can say I have seen a GT-R before I have seen a 4G.
I have seen 3 ferrari 430's since the release of the 4G TL.
I have seen 1 Lambo and 1 Lambo Kit car since the 4G TL release.
I have even seen 2 toyota supras since the 4G TL release.
The one car I haven't seen driving around from Freehold NJ -> Metuchen NJ daily on major highways.....
The 4G TL.
Verdict: Acura killed the TL.
There's days I can't not pass 50-60 3G TL's on the road but its been months now...and still not 1 4G TL has passed me. I've seen a freaking GT-R....and I can prove it:
This is a sad day. I have to take my 3G TL into service at my dealer and I'm going to ask them how bad sales have plummited I feel really bad...it can't be good...
hell you know it can't be good when dealers are trying their best to alter the appearance of the vehicle with custom paint jobs to get rid of the fake chrome look.
=/
I felt like writing a little verdict on the 4G TL...I live in NJ one of the most populated and highly driven states on the East Coast.
Since the Nissan GT-R was released approx around the same time as the 4G TL I can say I have seen a GT-R before I have seen a 4G.
I have seen 3 ferrari 430's since the release of the 4G TL.
I have seen 1 Lambo and 1 Lambo Kit car since the 4G TL release.
I have even seen 2 toyota supras since the 4G TL release.
The one car I haven't seen driving around from Freehold NJ -> Metuchen NJ daily on major highways.....
The 4G TL.
Verdict: Acura killed the TL.
There's days I can't not pass 50-60 3G TL's on the road but its been months now...and still not 1 4G TL has passed me. I've seen a freaking GT-R....and I can prove it:
This is a sad day. I have to take my 3G TL into service at my dealer and I'm going to ask them how bad sales have plummited I feel really bad...it can't be good...
hell you know it can't be good when dealers are trying their best to alter the appearance of the vehicle with custom paint jobs to get rid of the fake chrome look.
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I recently was posted (Army) to middle of nowhere Missouri. I have seen one 3G TL and since I've been here in July. The place is filled with ugly pick up trucks and large SUVs. I recently saw a 4G TL. Based on that, my conclusions are that pick-ups and SUVs are having a banner year. In addition the 3G TL and 4G TL are terrible selling vehicles and are equally unpopular
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The key matrix for us is road liveability: how would the car do on a trip to Maine or Montreal? Along the Garden State Parkway here, everyone normally drives 85 mph (except when the radar detector says drop to 74 thru the trap . Most Parkway cruisers are heavier cars: Mercedes and Bimmers are designed for all-day cruising auf der Autobahn, for example. I might be real happy with a Honda Fit for mostly local driving, but don't need to feel like it's me 'n' my skateboard alone against Big Bear Mountain.
What prompted my urge to reply is today's headlines about the auto bailout. So I clicked on the Chrysler, Ford, and GMC websites. Wow ... they don't have ANYTHING I've wanted in a long time -- and yes, I still have a Yukon in my driveway. (Detroit still thinks it's the 1950's.)
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Guys,
Acura wants the "hey look at me I don't blend in " look. This ugly grill thing will go the way of Chris Bangle's styling on BMWs.....away to a toned down version, just wait and see.
The rear or the car is very nice so it is an easy fix...or where is the aftermarket??
No matter what, it looks better than that bland looking Infiniti G35.
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Acura wants the "hey look at me I don't blend in " look. This ugly grill thing will go the way of Chris Bangle's styling on BMWs.....away to a toned down version, just wait and see.
The rear or the car is very nice so it is an easy fix...or where is the aftermarket??
No matter what, it looks better than that bland looking Infiniti G35.
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#35
Oh, and dealer had a car with painted grill. He also provided different options for painting: whole grill, inside portion, outside portion, etc.
I can't make up my mind about the look. Some days I hate it, other days I think it can live with it. Then I see a gorgeous 3 series go by, which doesn't help. .
#37
I test drove an AWD version today. I'm holding out for the 10' MT car if it gets built...my dealer reported Acura most likely will not green light it. Although he also said Acura would need to develop a specialized manual to handle the new 3.7l engine. Sorry buddy, they've already done that. He was probably being manipulative like so many are. Anyway, the TL felt very fast, but a little disconnected. I think the MT would help in this regard. Ride was firmer than I expected and the body did not feel solid or vault-like: some giggly parts on the inside. Although ride was firm, it wasn't too rough. It felt sporty and confidence inspiring. Steering was very good. Interior was nice. Seats were very comfortable. Tons of room.
Oh, and dealer had a car with painted grill. He also provided different options for painting: whole grill, inside portion, outside portion, etc.
I can't make up my mind about the look. Some days I hate it, other days I think it can live with it. Then I see a gorgeous 3 series go by, which doesn't help. .
Oh, and dealer had a car with painted grill. He also provided different options for painting: whole grill, inside portion, outside portion, etc.
I can't make up my mind about the look. Some days I hate it, other days I think it can live with it. Then I see a gorgeous 3 series go by, which doesn't help. .
And he was being manipulative, Acura has confirmed in print there is a 6MT coming for 2010. He wants you to buy it from him, Mr. Nieve..
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GT-R's are in stock at So Cal dealerships. Whats so shocking about someone being able to get one?
The 3G TL has been on sale for over FIIIIIIVEEE years. How can you realistically compare the number of 3G's you see on the road with the 4G which has not even been on sale for two months?
Of course everyone WANTS to upgrade to the latest and greatest thing. However, not everyone CAN. The economy sucks and the middle-class (the group of people that buy cars in the TL's class) are getting hammered. Your missing the fact that nobody is buying cars right now even if they want to.
Lets say I want to replace my 2008 Ferrari for a 2009 Ferrari but I can't afford it. Just because you see me still driving my 2008 Ferrari, does that mean I don't want the 2009?
Answer this for me honestly. Do you seriously believe that just because you have not seen a car on the road that has only been in production for about 1.5 months (not even full production at that) which to most people would be considered a luxury car (and therefore an unnecessary expenditure) in an economy that is constantly being compared to the Great Depression, it is a failure? Seriously, really think about this one. Think loooong and haaaard.
P.S.
Look down, you can get your EVO for 0% financing.
The 3G TL has been on sale for over FIIIIIIVEEE years. How can you realistically compare the number of 3G's you see on the road with the 4G which has not even been on sale for two months?
Of course everyone WANTS to upgrade to the latest and greatest thing. However, not everyone CAN. The economy sucks and the middle-class (the group of people that buy cars in the TL's class) are getting hammered. Your missing the fact that nobody is buying cars right now even if they want to.
Lets say I want to replace my 2008 Ferrari for a 2009 Ferrari but I can't afford it. Just because you see me still driving my 2008 Ferrari, does that mean I don't want the 2009?
Answer this for me honestly. Do you seriously believe that just because you have not seen a car on the road that has only been in production for about 1.5 months (not even full production at that) which to most people would be considered a luxury car (and therefore an unnecessary expenditure) in an economy that is constantly being compared to the Great Depression, it is a failure? Seriously, really think about this one. Think loooong and haaaard.
P.S.
Look down, you can get your EVO for 0% financing.
#39
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my neighbor has one
#40
Crusifer...have you driven the TL yet? Better yet, have you driven the SH-AWD yet? Keep in mind, the SH-AWD just came to dealerships about 9 days ago and most dealers recieved anywhere from 3-10 units at most. In my experience, most people wanted to wait until this model came out to make their decision.
We had our "ride-and-drive" event today in Toronto. We drove the BMW 335xi and Infiniti G35x to compare against(I asked why it wasn't the G37 and they couldn't get one for the event). After absolutely kicking the snot out off these 2 cars in dynamic driving situations - hard cornering, braking, acceleration, etc, I find it pretty funny that people can even mention a 3 series or Infiniti in the same sentence. It's a joke how much better the TL SH-AWD Tech package is over it's competition, especially when comparing the cars' interior quality and comfort.
So my question is...have you driven the car yet?
We had our "ride-and-drive" event today in Toronto. We drove the BMW 335xi and Infiniti G35x to compare against(I asked why it wasn't the G37 and they couldn't get one for the event). After absolutely kicking the snot out off these 2 cars in dynamic driving situations - hard cornering, braking, acceleration, etc, I find it pretty funny that people can even mention a 3 series or Infiniti in the same sentence. It's a joke how much better the TL SH-AWD Tech package is over it's competition, especially when comparing the cars' interior quality and comfort.
So my question is...have you driven the car yet?