mrphilipanderson

As you may already know, I am madly in love with my TL. And when you're in love with something you notice every subtlety...sometimes too much. heheheh
Anyway, Ive always been a Mobile1 guy. But I came across a product called Royal Purple. It was on a rollback at Walmart for 21.99.

THIS. $#!T is real. There is a marginal MPG improvement - up about 2 points. The throttle seems to have benefited from it as well, because it just seems to Idle so smoothly...and not just fresh oil smooth..but like....hybrid car smooth where you're like wait, is my car on???
Another place I notice a crazy difference is on the open highway...Its like crazy velvety.....and robust. u just have to experience it to know what I'm talking about. If the experience remains the same throughout the entire Oil life cycle, I'm a lifetime buyer. We will see how the characteristics change after the oil ages. I plan to have it analysed by BlackStone Labs to really see how it did.
Switching to this oil has really awakened me to the fact that there are some really amazing products still. I am now considering exploring their ATF fluid..a little scared though.

dwest1023

I have been using RP in my 09 TL since day one. In fact that is all I use in all my cars. I can tell you I notice a slightly improved MPG, not to mention my all my engines are still sounding like brand new. I only change the oil once a year. I use the RP oil filters as well. Works for me!

losiglow

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RP oil filters are great. They use microglass fiber filter media which is superior in trapping particles but maintains very good flow rates. RP isn't the only oil filter to use microglass fibers but they also has excellent quality internal components like the support tube, gaskets and anti-drain back valve to avoid dry starts. And they're really not that expensive if you search online. I just picked up a few of the S2000 filters (10-2808) from Summit Racing for $12.99 each. The TL model is 10-2867 BTW but the S2000 filters have more capacity. A lot of guys with J V6's use them. That's another subject.....

mrphilipanderson

I just hit 80% oil life and it still feels like the day i changed the oil. Thats GREAT. also I drive a lot in the city for long periods of time. With the OEM oil, after four hours of stop and go traffic, the car seems to drive less smooth, but so far
its driving like a champ. I may do their tranny additive.

dcrandon

Royal Purple is good oil. It's been around for many years.

But, I'm afraid that all your observations are merely the placebo effect. I know your body feels them, but, it ain't happening.

horseshoez

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Keep in mind, @mrphilipanderson is very impressionable and open minded enough to believe pretty much anything. That said, I believe I saw a recent post of his where he is no longer so pleased with either the oil in his car, or his car for that matter.

mrphilipanderson

unfortunately there’s absolutely no way for you to dictate my personal experience. You’re not me. If oil was oil, there wouldn’t be an industry build on it. There wouldn’t be research trials and test data. Not to mention the results I’m gathering from trying 4 different oils ( sending results into labs) testing each oil three oil cycles. Mobile 1 was the first.

now back to the placebo effect. We imagine walkzting in, confidently stating opinion as fact with a mic drop will change the minds of the readers. It doesn’t. However u feel it does. You’re convinced it does. But it doesn’t.

horseshoez

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???

mrphilipanderson

my sentiments exactly. There always has to be one person to spread their opinion in a negative way that condescends others.
if you read the thread, at some point sharing became attacking for someone.

thoiboi

Have you performed the UOA for the RP oil like you said?

rockstar143

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I doubt he's due for another change in only 2 months.

mrphilipanderson

I have. Ive done it twice with two driving styles. I am now collecting data for Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.

thoiboi

Can you share the results of your UOA?

rockstar143

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He can.
but he won't. Only to us privately. But not you.

mrphilipanderson

Sure. Im doing Each oil 3 cycles to really show results. Once Im done I'll gladly share. Royal purple, penznzoil Ultra Platinum and Redline.

rockstar143

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what's the Walmart brand one? I wouldn't mind seeing how that stacks up if you're doing all them analysisess anyway.

thoiboi

SuperTech?


Kirkland (aka Costco) came out with their own blend too, curious to see how it stacks up

rockstar143

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5 quarts are $13.96 for full synthetic...
and you know, when you're tending to a fleet of vehicles

Bullzeye

The only thing I didn't like about RP was it was dark to begin with so it's tougher to do a visual and determine anything from it. You can wipe some on an unwaxed paper and allow the fluids to absorb.Then look for particulate left on the paper. Put a few drops in a cup of water to check for anti dispersants or general condition of the oil. Really when you're in the top tier oils it's like splitting hairs. I run Amsoil at the moment, Mobil 1 in the past. They all make a great product when that's all they do.

horseshoez

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Keep in mind, with synthetic oil, the color of the oil has nothing to do with its suitability for continued use. Said another way, there is no such a thing as a visual determination when it comes to synthetic oil.

Jakes_tl

SuperTech, Kirkland / Costco and Amazon oil are all the same oil made by Warren Oil. They have plenty of solid UOA's on BITOG.

rockstar143

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exactly

Jakes_tl

J - do you use ST or what oil do you use?

thoiboi

J only uses the tears of the Honda techs that work on his car and changes it every 1000 miles.

rockstar143

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Johnny...
Ima use yours too after next weekend.

ST - Synthetic?
Yeah...it's such a small difference in cost with supertech it makes sense.

Jakes_tl

Do you really use SuperTech syn? With as many vehicles as you have it would make sense.

rockstar143

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yeah, man...
I used to be diehard mobil1 and then redline or rp then i was like...you know what I like...my money.
it's fine...
especially on stuff like the jeep, yukon and a3.

thoiboi

ST = Super-Tech

rockstar143

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yes.

Bullzeye

I would ask to differ. A man in a beater was running an Extended Oil Change oil in his 4 mile trip back and forth to work. After a few months he found the oil darkened and sent a sample to the manufacturer. They found he was running long enough to bring the engine up to temperature but not long enough to pull the blowby out of the engine. In this extremely short trip the blowby was contaminating his oil.
It can't tell you if it's good, but it can tell you if something is bad.

horseshoez

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Sorry, the facts are, you cannot determine the fitness of any synthetic oil based upon the visual look of the oil. Fact of life, believe it or don't.

rockstar143

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you're my boy, blue!

Bullzeye

I don't use the clarity of water to tell if it's good or not, but it's one indicator, rationalize it however you want. RP makes a good oil, I just prefer a synthetic that starts out a little more clear and top tier is splitting hair, they're all so close. Just my preference.

rockstar143

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I don't think he was contesting anything you are stating, just that a visual inspection isn't accurate on the condition of used oil.

Bullzeye

"you cannot determine the fitness of any synthetic oil based upon the visual look of the oil. Fact of life, believe it or don't."
The example I gave above was a customer of Amsoil's that noticed a problem simply by pulling the dipstick and noticed it darker than he thought it should be. He reseated the dipstick and put a liberal amount on a piece of unwaxed paper and set it aside to absorb the oil. He took a little more and dropped some in a cup of water to check the Anti-dispersants. The oil spread out like a Dawn dish washing detergent commercial.
He checked back on the paper and found excess particles and brought it to Amsoil's attention. I've used a lot of different oils and not that loyal to any one but Amsoil seems to expose their customers to more case studies like this to help everyone using their product understand the variables.
I usually state something like "It will tell you if it's bad but it won't tell you if it's good". It makes no difference to me. I have 277,4 something on my 10 MDX and at worst had to replace both cams and 1 rocker. Amsoil in the transmission and it still works great, after using Mobil 1 and RP in the engine I've recently moved back to Amsoil.
I'm not that great on this internet and read some of my old posts and wished I'd said it differently. I mean no insult to anyone and hope they have million mile engines.
I find all this interesting and for those still interested in the subject of oil to follow this link to a You Tuber that had a lot of information on how Mobil 1 was tested and how they run the process.

horseshoez

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Dude, give it up, you're not going to make your point.

rockstar143

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give the guy what he wants, horsey.