View Poll Results: How long to your 1st oil change?
Less than 3,000 miles
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6
12.50%
3,001 - 5,000 miles
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10
20.83%
5,001 - 7,000 miles
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12
25.00%
7,001 miles - 9000 miles
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11
22.92%
9,001 miles or more
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9
18.75%
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How long till everyone's 1st oil change? I'm on pace for 10k miles!
#1
Instructor
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How long till everyone's 1st oil change? I'm on pace for 10k miles!
According to the computer, I just went from 60% oil life to 50%, and I'm at 5,100 miles. Unless the oil gage functions like the gas gauge, I'll be getting my 1st change around 10,000 miles.
Does this seem right? Tempted to take it in earlier, but I've heard to wait till the car says to.
Cheers...
Does this seem right? Tempted to take it in earlier, but I've heard to wait till the car says to.
Cheers...
#2
Intermediate
On the advice of a porsche owner and car crazed nut and family member, for the first one and all others I took mine in at 30%. Same advice told me to use Mobile 1 or Royal Purple Synthetic. Been running on Royal Purple.
#3
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I have 21,600 miles on my TL, and the computer hit 15% at about 8500 miles both times. That's when I changed mine. I use Mobil 1. I always changed my oil at 3000 miles in the past, I'm not excited about this but it is what Acura claims is correct, also did a lot of reading on the Mobil web page, and they say follow the manufacture. I guess I'll know more when I hit 150K miles or not.
#4
Three Wheelin'
I finally hit 30% at 4800 miles. I figure I can go to about 5500 before it hits zero. Oh yea, my car is 1 1/2 years old (It's an 08). I know its a little unnerving to wait so long but I believe the 3k mile oil change interval, while it can't hurt anything, is premature by today's oil standards especially if you use a good, brand-name oil (synth or dyno). Go by the MID recommendation.
#6
Instructor
I'm at 50% oil life at 4000 miles and I've had the car since October. Per the manual, I'm going to probably change it at the 1 year mark instead of what the computer says.
#7
Yes this is true. Some people say its just assembly grease that makes the oil more robust than regular oil but my personal opinion is that it is indeed a specially formulated oil that has more zincdithiophosphate(ZDDP), an anti wear additive and also a LOT of molybdenum, a anti-friction additive. I don't drive the TL a whole lot, I bought the car on May 22nd and have just over 300 miles and dealer gas but I plan to keep this oil in the crankcase for 1 year. When I change it next year I will be getting a used oil analysis and post it here!
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#8
Honestly, from my experience, people who own high end sports cars usually don't know anything about motor oil and their chemistry and how they work. They tend to reguritate information fed to them while hanging out with other car crazed nuts. I would never ask a race car driver or automotive enthusiasts advise on motor oil. Heck, I know mechanics who work on high end cars who look at me funny when I ask them to take a sample of used oil for me so I can send it out to be analysed.
#9
Yea, It's Me!
I always change oil for the first time at 3k to remove any break-in debris. I then work my way back to every 5k. This has worked for me for 30+ years and the 5k interval has worked especially good for both of my daughters. They have done a great job taking thier cars in just by looking at the odometer. Pretty close to idiot-proof.
#10
My 4G TL asked for an oil chage at around 3500. Throughout my experiences with different vehicles it has always been normal for an oil chage at around 3500 miles. In addition I think that an oil change at 5000 miles or higher is some what abnormal unless your driving habits are extremely moderate.
I like to feel the torque when I drive, perhaps that's why I get to change the oil every 3500 miles or so.
I like to feel the torque when I drive, perhaps that's why I get to change the oil every 3500 miles or so.
#11
AcurAdmirer
Old habits die hard, but I changed my opinion a few years ago when I owned a string of BMW's. Their computers didn't call for an oil change until around 15,000 miles and I couldn't stand it.
But when I took my first one in to the dealer, they told me I was just wasting my money and good oil to change it sooner. The car's computer evaluates oil condition based on number of starts, outside and engine temperature, engine speeds, and a number of other factors, and it knows when to change the oil. (BTW, they used synthetic oil, which has a longer life.)
In short, changing oil based on miles driven is dumb. People drive all different ways and under different conditions. For instance, 5,000 highway miles is a LOT easier on oil than a lot of stop and go driving in cold weather. So the best thing to do is to let the car's computer tell you when it's time. And you'll never run afoul of the warranty as long as you used Acura's own oil change instructions.
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But when I took my first one in to the dealer, they told me I was just wasting my money and good oil to change it sooner. The car's computer evaluates oil condition based on number of starts, outside and engine temperature, engine speeds, and a number of other factors, and it knows when to change the oil. (BTW, they used synthetic oil, which has a longer life.)
In short, changing oil based on miles driven is dumb. People drive all different ways and under different conditions. For instance, 5,000 highway miles is a LOT easier on oil than a lot of stop and go driving in cold weather. So the best thing to do is to let the car's computer tell you when it's time. And you'll never run afoul of the warranty as long as you used Acura's own oil change instructions.
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#13
Three Wheelin'
Same here...I'm at 10% at 5K....going in tomorrow to get the oil change. I wish Acura offered a similar no-charge maintenance program for leases like BMW offers. When I had my 545i, BMW did oil changes, fluid replacements, rotated tires, changed brake pads, changed wipers, and winterized the car all for free.
#15
Three Wheelin'
I don't recall being charged anything extra for my lease term. If anything, I was able to negotiate about $2K off the sticker price off my 545i when I took delivery....and at that time, it was almost impossible to get a substantial discount on a new 5 series, let alone on any BMW.
#16
I don't recall being charged anything extra for my lease term. If anything, I was able to negotiate about $2K off the sticker price off my 545i when I took delivery....and at that time, it was almost impossible to get a substantial discount on a new 5 series, let alone on any BMW.
#19
Instructor
I changed mine at 3500 miles the first time, then the past two oil changes have been around 4000 intervals...Its one of the cheapest forms of maintenance, and never hurts to change oil "too early" and at my dealership, gets me a nice hand car wash too haha..
#20
My beer fridge is in
Same here...I'm at 10% at 5K....going in tomorrow to get the oil change. I wish Acura offered a similar no-charge maintenance program for leases like BMW offers. When I had my 545i, BMW did oil changes, fluid replacements, rotated tires, changed brake pads, changed wipers, and winterized the car all for free.
My salesman threw in 1 year of oil changes for free, but at the rate i'm going (70% left after 3000 miles) i will probably only get 2 oil changes out of him
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#22
i would change oil every 3k or 6 months i would not wait for that oil percent thing. at times it is not correct. i am in the business, recommened all my clients 3k or 6 months it all depends on how you drive the car..
#24
With a new engine it's always best to let the little pieces of metal that accumulate from initial wear run through the engine for as long as possible. This helps to polish the components of your engine to a nice smooth finish. So try and stretch that first oil change out to 10K or 15K. Be sure to hit that rev limiter too. You'll want to make sure it works and the high RPMs rubbing the metal flecks against the cylinder walls will put on a nice finish. Bwahahahahaha!
#25
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It's all in the manual, folks:
Help assure your vehicle’s future reliability and performance by paying extra attention to how you drive during the first 600 miles (1,000 km).
During this period:
Do not change the oil until the multi-information display indicates it is needed.
Avoid hard braking for the first 200 miles (300 km).
Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration.
Leave the oil there until the MID tells you to do otherwise.
I realize many of you claim to have been driving since the dawn of the modern automobile and that plenty of you "have a guy" that "knows a lot" about cars, but really... there are reasons these manuals are printed and that the manufacturer takes the time to validate what they publish.
Every car is different, every manual has different information. Before making assumptions or taking the word of some trusted automotive "advisor", it's really best to consult with the information that came from the horses mouth, not the other end.
Help assure your vehicle’s future reliability and performance by paying extra attention to how you drive during the first 600 miles (1,000 km).
During this period:
Do not change the oil until the multi-information display indicates it is needed.
Avoid hard braking for the first 200 miles (300 km).
Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration.
Leave the oil there until the MID tells you to do otherwise.
I realize many of you claim to have been driving since the dawn of the modern automobile and that plenty of you "have a guy" that "knows a lot" about cars, but really... there are reasons these manuals are printed and that the manufacturer takes the time to validate what they publish.
Every car is different, every manual has different information. Before making assumptions or taking the word of some trusted automotive "advisor", it's really best to consult with the information that came from the horses mouth, not the other end.
#26
My beer fridge is in
It's all in the manual, folks:
Help assure your vehicle’s future reliability and performance by paying extra attention to how you drive during the first 600 miles (1,000 km).
During this period:
Do not change the oil until the multi-information display indicates it is needed.
Avoid hard braking for the first 200 miles (300 km).
Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration.
Leave the oil there until the MID tells you to do otherwise.
I realize many of you claim to have been driving since the dawn of the modern automobile and that plenty of you "have a guy" that "knows a lot" about cars, but really... there are reasons these manuals are printed and that the manufacturer takes the time to validate what they publish.
Every car is different, every manual has different information. Before making assumptions or taking the word of some trusted automotive "advisor", it's really best to consult with the information that came from the horses mouth, not the other end.
Help assure your vehicle’s future reliability and performance by paying extra attention to how you drive during the first 600 miles (1,000 km).
During this period:
Do not change the oil until the multi-information display indicates it is needed.
Avoid hard braking for the first 200 miles (300 km).
Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration.
Leave the oil there until the MID tells you to do otherwise.
I realize many of you claim to have been driving since the dawn of the modern automobile and that plenty of you "have a guy" that "knows a lot" about cars, but really... there are reasons these manuals are printed and that the manufacturer takes the time to validate what they publish.
Every car is different, every manual has different information. Before making assumptions or taking the word of some trusted automotive "advisor", it's really best to consult with the information that came from the horses mouth, not the other end.
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#27
Instructor
I tried to have my first oil change at 20% on my Accord but I was turned away and told to come back when the MM hit 0%. I think I'll try it on my TL too just to see what happens.
#29
Racer
If anyone feels uncomfortable about going so long on the oil life monitor(OLM)between changes, I urge you to change to a quality synthetic oil(mobil 1, amsoil, pennzoil platinum, castrol syntec or Valvoline Synpower) and forget about it till the OLM tells you to or 1 year which ever comes first to keep the warranty intact.
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If anyone is uncomfortable with how long they're going on their original fill of oil and may be afraid that the monitor might be less than accurate, I would urge those people to seek the professional advice of their trained Acura service team at their local dealership. Ultimately, these are the professionals most familiar with this product and who, undoubtedly, have the most knowledge about what is essentially an entirely new product (4G TL) with new technology and new advances in computer-aided monitoring.
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#31
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If anyone is uncomfortable with how long they're going on their original fill of oil and may be afraid that the monitor might be less than accurate, I would urge those people to seek the professional advice of their trained Acura service team at their local dealership. Ultimately, these are the professionals most familiar with this product and who, undoubtedly, have the most knowledge about what is essentially an entirely new product (4G TL) with new technology and new advances in computer-aided monitoring.
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For those who may want to change their own oil, this is by far the easiest car to change the oil in. If you have a torque wrench or just a plain ol wrench, a strap tool for the filter and a set of rhino ramps, you are good to go. Took me less than a half hour to change my oil and that is because i have ocd about letting the oil drain for a while so I get the last bit out. Easiest change ever, hands down!
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