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Old 03-05-2010 | 06:16 PM
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Are you guys happy with the TL gas mileage?
Old 03-05-2010 | 06:37 PM
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For a car of this capability and weight and AWD, I think it's surprisingly good. Averaging 22.5 in all- round driving with just 400 miles on the car.

About 50/50 highway/suburban driving.
Old 03-05-2010 | 06:44 PM
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I get about 20-21 mpg on the FWD TL with maybe 30-40% highway. I go up and down lots of hills on regular commute though, so that screws me.
Old 03-05-2010 | 07:11 PM
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99% city i haven't seen north of 15mpg yet. @800 miles now. I drive briskly btw

So coming from a 26-43mpg civic.. not happy lol
Old 03-05-2010 | 07:24 PM
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I came from a Ridgeline. The city is identical, but the highway is much better.
Old 03-05-2010 | 08:18 PM
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Averaging about 25 mpg in normal driving now. This is what the B meter shows.

I used to get a little better.
Old 03-05-2010 | 08:25 PM
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I'm getting about 20.8 mpg with the FWD car. But I'm about 75% city ("real" city-NYC)/crowded suburban driving and 25% highway. This is substantially better than I got in my '07 ES 350. And this car is much more muscular. I'm quite pleased.
Old 03-05-2010 | 08:49 PM
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After 5000 miles I am averaging 16-17 mpg but I am 80% local/city with lots of short trips with the kids to different activities as well as an 8 mile commute to work mostly on small neighborhood roads. On the highway for about 2 miles each way to work. Not sure if this is good or bad but it is what it is. Same commute and driving pattern for the last 16 years. My last car was an 03 I35 and I got about 16 mpg over 6 1/2 years with it.
Old 03-05-2010 | 11:51 PM
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after 24,000 some odd miles, my overall combined is around 20...of course the trip meter resets itself every 10k miles, but each time it's reset it was just a hair over 20mpg
Old 03-06-2010 | 06:35 AM
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You guys must all be shifting in VTEC or something. :-)
Old 03-06-2010 | 06:53 AM
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City: 17/18mpg
Highway: 25/26mpg

During the winter, I got about 1 to 2 less mpg due to my roof rack + fuel additives that they put in.

Does the 6MT TL give you better gas mileage? I know it's rated at 18/26 compared to the automatic's 17/25. I was asking because nowadays some cars get better mileage with an auto transmission whereas before, it usually was the other way around.
Old 03-06-2010 | 07:26 AM
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Considering what this car is yes, would I like better yes. I average around 20.7 over 15K miles. I used to average around 22.7 in my Type-S. The weight and AWD really sucks about 10-15% easily over the Type-S. I have never seen more than about 24-25MPG on the HWY where my Type-S would easily get 27. On my old 3G FWD I used to get 22-23 and then coudl easily get 28-30 on the HWYIf I did mor eHWY I woudl be mor eupset sicne it is a bigger drop, but really less than 10% differecne and I have this rock solid AWD awesome driving car! I am curious where Acura will go, witht he new CAFE standard coming you see Ford going Turbo, Hyundaigoing Turbo and Direct Injection, not sure what Acura/Honda will do. I'm not sure why they didn't put the cylinder management feature in the TL I'm sure it woudl have helped a little and it is in the Hondas. I routinely coast at speed where I'm sure 1-2 cylinders would be cut off.
Old 03-06-2010 | 10:45 AM
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I'm happy -- primarily because the MPG advertised was not a lie (as in my wife's Acadia with advertised 18/24 -- and gets 12). I get 22-25 mpg. We should note the 'average speed' in these posts, as thi is a good indicator of city vs. freeway. My average is ususally about 40 mpg (about 80% freeway). I went on a 150 mile trip yesterday -- all freeway with some small rolling hills, and got 29 mpg. Was as high as 32 at one point. My tires aren't as high as I sometimes run them and I see the difference (warmed up they were running 35-36, while I sometimes run 38-39 warm). No A/C.

I have noticed that it only takes one stop and re-start from zero up to freeway speeds (80 mpg in So. Cal) -- in this case for a surfboard in the #3 lane -- to see it drop. The starts and stops really kill the mpg. I have not seen high speeds affect it much (85 mpg not noticably lower mpg than 65 mpg), but add 5 minutes of city driving and it'll drop a lot.

My car has about 9,750 miles and has an average of 23.4 mpg at 40 mph overall. Spirited driving 20% of the time. About the same mpg as my '96 manual Max got, but with 100 more horses. I can't complain.
Old 03-06-2010 | 12:38 PM
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Good point about considering average speed - that's a much better indicator than estimating % highway/local. Last time I checked mine was about 36 mph, with MPG of 22.5. (I only have 400 miles on the car, and my experience with Honda/Acura cars is that they don't get their best mileage until 15-30,000 miles on the clock). And yes, some of those 400 miles have been in, ahem, "spirited" conditions.
Old 03-06-2010 | 05:06 PM
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City mileage is so variable based on terrain, intersection density, and traffic. I think more useful is HWY mileage. What I've observed for my FWD TL with 200-300lb cargo/passenger load:
No A/C, avg speed 60-70mph = 28-30mpg
+ A/C = 27 mpg
Ambient temp 50-70deg

Not too bad if you ask me but pales in comparison to the new Ford Mustang's rumored 31mpg with 305hp
Old 03-06-2010 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ll_22
City mileage is so variable based on terrain, intersection density, and traffic. I think more useful is HWY mileage. What I've observed for my FWD TL with 200-300lb cargo/passenger load:
No A/C, avg speed 60-70mph = 28-30mpg
+ A/C = 27 mpg
Ambient temp 50-70deg

Not too bad if you ask me but pales in comparison to the new Ford Mustang's rumored 31mpg with 305hp

you got the best mileage...geez
Old 03-06-2010 | 07:12 PM
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Not true, there were several members claiming HWY mpg > 30 on the MID in the summer months even with A/C on, for the FWD that is.

I think the mpg is up to 10% worse on the AWD due to the increased wt, hp, AWD drag, and higher final drive ratio.
Old 03-06-2010 | 07:19 PM
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17mpg combined @ 6800 miles
Old 03-06-2010 | 07:56 PM
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took a trip from LA to SF last weekend with about 800 miles on new 6MT. averaged 25mpg @ 80mph on the way there. on the way back about 22mpg @ 90mph.. not bad.. not great.

averaging about 22mpg 50/50
Old 03-06-2010 | 09:25 PM
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Just finished a 600 mile trip.

Average speed 75 miles per hour, average mpg 25.7.

We were not light footing it by any stretch, either.
Old 03-06-2010 | 11:10 PM
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When I took my trip from MA to MI i drove 75mph and averaged about 25mpg. I do 100% city and I get 17mpg with winter tires and the winter fuel we get here in NE. I'd imagine I'll get 18 or maybe 19 in the summer.
Old 03-07-2010 | 01:32 AM
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I do about 90% city and 10% Highway and I've been averaging about 17-18 mpg. I'm actually kind of surprised since I drive somewhat aggressively and have a Takeda Intake installed, which I love to take advantage of at every opportunity!
Old 03-07-2010 | 08:55 PM
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I noticed that if you drive under 70 MPH, you get the best mielage on highway. Whenever I drive over 70, I noticed the mileage is less
Old 03-08-2010 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingmeow
I noticed that if you drive under 70 MPH, you get the best mielage on highway. Whenever I drive over 70, I noticed the mileage is less
Do you mind if I ask how you kept track of that to be certain, and how big a difference you're talking about?
Old 03-08-2010 | 09:19 AM
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Do you mind if I ask how you kept track of that to be certain, and how big a difference you're talking about?
Possibly the instant mpg indicator? I wonder how accurate that is hmm..
Old 03-08-2010 | 02:36 PM
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I think I'm averaging 24-25 combined. I drive more highway than city - probably 70% highway, 30% city. I put on about 24000 miles a year on my car.

I don't really care about the fuel efficiency that much. If my efficiency now is 24mpg and if it were 28mpg that saves me $415/year. No big deal. I can make that up easily by eating out less.
Old 03-08-2010 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by George Knighton
Do you mind if I ask how you kept track of that to be certain, and how big a difference you're talking about?
Just like Jason said, the Instant MPG readout. Yes it flucuates but on average that's what I visually noticed. I do long commutes (NJ - Boston) so I can "play" with certain parameters when I drive. On a separate note, one weekend I drove a local highway where the speed limit is 50. Man, readout read over 30 MPG for the length of the entire drive.

The difference I notice is about 1-2 MPG more when under 70. When I had my Maxima, I noticed that I get a few more miles from a tank when cruising at 68 vs. 72. Then I was doing 52 mile commutes one way, all highway.

This is by no means scientific but a visual "Hmmmm...."
Old 03-09-2010 | 11:23 PM
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horrible milage.
Old 03-10-2010 | 06:43 AM
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i live in Vancouver, with the different measurements here, i got in average 16.7L/100KM, can anyone tell me what is that equal to in mpg?
personally i found it quite gas consuming comparing to previous car that i had, the nissan pathfinder. thought i can save some gas money after switching to this car.

BTW, any Canadians here?
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Originally Posted by Kingmeow
Just like Jason said, the Instant MPG readout. Yes it flucuates but on average that's what I visually noticed. I do long commutes (NJ - Boston) so I can "play" with certain parameters when I drive. On a separate note, one weekend I drove a local highway where the speed limit is 50. Man, readout read over 30 MPG for the length of the entire drive.

The difference I notice is about 1-2 MPG more when under 70. When I had my Maxima, I noticed that I get a few more miles from a tank when cruising at 68 vs. 72. Then I was doing 52 mile commutes one way, all highway.

This is by no means scientific but a visual "Hmmmm...."
No, not scientific, but it's a help and shows that you knew what you were talking about, so thanks. :-)

A car's best MPG is achieved in a compromise of where the gasoline engine's most efficient (highest torque) RPM range is, and the lowest speed you can reasonably travel.

It's not always a straight shot that slower equals better fuel efficiency, but it looks like it does in this case!
Old 03-10-2010 | 07:41 AM
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Answering to kingjoker, yes there are canadians here :-)
Got my AWD since early December, averaging about 13.5-14l/100km on a 50-50 city/highway, that's on winter tires, car isn't sleeping outside, so no idle heating or almost. This past winter has been quite easy too, almost no snow & cold in here (Qc), may look a bit like in Vancouver :-)
To convert l/km -> m/g in Canada, here is the formula : mi/gal = 282,48 ÷ L/100 km
so 14l/100km = 20.13m/gal, and your 16.7l/100 = 16.9m/gal
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Old 03-10-2010 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MpegtwoTL
horrible milage.
Yup, it's a 2TON car with 300HP and an active AWD system... what do you expect?

What's funny to me is when people drop 40k on a car and complain about the MPG, if you can't afford to fill it up every week, you can't afford the car.
I was pretty impressed that the numbers on the sticker matched up exactly with the actual MPG. I've bought cars that have said 25 MPG city, and actually got 20. This one was spot on.
Old 03-10-2010 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by George Knighton
No, not scientific, but it's a help and shows that you knew what you were talking about, so thanks. :-)

A car's best MPG is achieved in a compromise of where the gasoline engine's most efficient (highest torque) RPM range is, and the lowest speed you can reasonably travel.

It's not always a straight shot that slower equals better fuel efficiency, but it looks like it does in this case!
George, a slight correction. It's the AVG MPG display and not the Instant MPG graph. As a side note, my commute yesterday from NJ to Boston averaged 25.5 MPG cruising about 72 MPH. The weather is warmer though, around 50 deg. F. It's going to be higher once they stop selling the ethanol winter gas.

Slower definitely does not always mean better fuel efficiency like you said. I'm sure if I did 35 MPH up to Boston, I would not be getting 25 MPG! There's a sweet spot somewhere.
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Originally Posted by Kingmeow
George, a slight correction. It's the AVG MPG display and not the Instant MPG graph. As a side note, my commute yesterday from NJ to Boston averaged 25.5 MPG cruising about 72 MPH. The weather is warmer though, around 50 deg. F. It's going to be higher once they stop selling the ethanol winter gas.

Slower definitely does not always mean better fuel efficiency like you said. I'm sure if I did 35 MPH up to Boston, I would not be getting 25 MPG! There's a sweet spot somewhere.
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Old 03-10-2010 | 08:31 PM
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Mileage is okay....

19.8 mpg after 10,500 miles. I wish it was better (mileage really drops above 70 mph), but I think it's worth it for the SH-AWD after the winter we had here in Nebraska!
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I usually alternate between Allston/Cambridge and Framingham. So far all my warranty work has been done by Acura of Boston. My local dealer in NJ has not touched my car other than an oil change.

People say Herb Chambers in Framingham but I have not used them so far.
Old 03-11-2010 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dlarchev
Answering to kingjoker, yes there are canadians here :-)
Got my AWD since early December, averaging about 13.5-14l/100km on a 50-50 city/highway, that's on winter tires, car isn't sleeping outside, so no idle heating or almost. This past winter has been quite easy too, almost no snow & cold in here (Qc), may look a bit like in Vancouver :-)
To convert l/km -> m/g in Canada, here is the formula : mi/gal = 282,48 ÷ L/100 km
so 14l/100km = 20.13m/gal, and your 16.7l/100 = 16.9m/gal
Cheers.
Thx, dlarchev. The measurement thing is very clear. Like you said, there's no snow over here this year, even the Olympics needed to lay grass under their ski tracks. (cheers to the 14 golds!) I got my CBP AWD too just 3 weeks ago, driving 70-30 city/highway. need to find a way to be more fuel efficient and i am currently monitoring the instant.L /100 thing on the display. 16.7L / 100 km = sucking my entertainment money -_-''. There's quite alot of uphill downhill here, and may i ask if you have a flatter landscape in Quebec?
Old 03-12-2010 | 08:17 AM
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25-27mpg average, 70% highway, the worst tank I have seen was 23 or 24mpg, that was mostly city and having fun gassing it. Don't quite understand how some are getting less than 20mpg. Must have a lead foot.
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And to answer the original question, yes I am very happy with the gas mileage, considering the window sticker said 18 city, 26 highway.
Old 03-12-2010 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rvalentino
Don't quite understand how some are getting less than 20mpg. Must have a lead foot.
It's because we have the SH-AWD. Our cars are heavier, have a bigger engine, and have AWD which adds to parasitic loss more. The FWD is the better choice for more highway driving where you want to stretch your MPGs.


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