Gas Mileage
#7
I'm getting about 20.8 mpg with the FWD car. But I'm about 75% city ("real" city-NYC)/crowded suburban driving and 25% highway. This is substantially better than I got in my '07 ES 350. And this car is much more muscular. I'm quite pleased.
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#8
After 5000 miles I am averaging 16-17 mpg but I am 80% local/city with lots of short trips with the kids to different activities as well as an 8 mile commute to work mostly on small neighborhood roads. On the highway for about 2 miles each way to work. Not sure if this is good or bad but it is what it is. Same commute and driving pattern for the last 16 years. My last car was an 03 I35 and I got about 16 mpg over 6 1/2 years with it.
#11
City: 17/18mpg
Highway: 25/26mpg
During the winter, I got about 1 to 2 less mpg due to my roof rack + fuel additives that they put in.
Does the 6MT TL give you better gas mileage? I know it's rated at 18/26 compared to the automatic's 17/25. I was asking because nowadays some cars get better mileage with an auto transmission whereas before, it usually was the other way around.
Highway: 25/26mpg
During the winter, I got about 1 to 2 less mpg due to my roof rack + fuel additives that they put in.
Does the 6MT TL give you better gas mileage? I know it's rated at 18/26 compared to the automatic's 17/25. I was asking because nowadays some cars get better mileage with an auto transmission whereas before, it usually was the other way around.
#12
Considering what this car is yes, would I like better yes. I average around 20.7 over 15K miles. I used to average around 22.7 in my Type-S. The weight and AWD really sucks about 10-15% easily over the Type-S. I have never seen more than about 24-25MPG on the HWY where my Type-S would easily get 27. On my old 3G FWD I used to get 22-23 and then coudl easily get 28-30 on the HWYIf I did mor eHWY I woudl be mor eupset sicne it is a bigger drop, but really less than 10% differecne and I have this rock solid AWD awesome driving car! I am curious where Acura will go, witht he new CAFE standard coming you see Ford going Turbo, Hyundaigoing Turbo and Direct Injection, not sure what Acura/Honda will do. I'm not sure why they didn't put the cylinder management feature in the TL I'm sure it woudl have helped a little and it is in the Hondas. I routinely coast at speed where I'm sure 1-2 cylinders would be cut off.
#13
I'm happy -- primarily because the MPG advertised was not a lie (as in my wife's Acadia with advertised 18/24 -- and gets 12). I get 22-25 mpg. We should note the 'average speed' in these posts, as thi is a good indicator of city vs. freeway. My average is ususally about 40 mpg (about 80% freeway). I went on a 150 mile trip yesterday -- all freeway with some small rolling hills, and got 29 mpg. Was as high as 32 at one point. My tires aren't as high as I sometimes run them and I see the difference (warmed up they were running 35-36, while I sometimes run 38-39 warm). No A/C.
I have noticed that it only takes one stop and re-start from zero up to freeway speeds (80 mpg in So. Cal) -- in this case for a surfboard in the #3 lane -- to see it drop. The starts and stops really kill the mpg. I have not seen high speeds affect it much (85 mpg not noticably lower mpg than 65 mpg), but add 5 minutes of city driving and it'll drop a lot.
My car has about 9,750 miles and has an average of 23.4 mpg at 40 mph overall. Spirited driving 20% of the time. About the same mpg as my '96 manual Max got, but with 100 more horses. I can't complain.
I have noticed that it only takes one stop and re-start from zero up to freeway speeds (80 mpg in So. Cal) -- in this case for a surfboard in the #3 lane -- to see it drop. The starts and stops really kill the mpg. I have not seen high speeds affect it much (85 mpg not noticably lower mpg than 65 mpg), but add 5 minutes of city driving and it'll drop a lot.
My car has about 9,750 miles and has an average of 23.4 mpg at 40 mph overall. Spirited driving 20% of the time. About the same mpg as my '96 manual Max got, but with 100 more horses. I can't complain.
#14
Good point about considering average speed - that's a much better indicator than estimating % highway/local. Last time I checked mine was about 36 mph, with MPG of 22.5. (I only have 400 miles on the car, and my experience with Honda/Acura cars is that they don't get their best mileage until 15-30,000 miles on the clock). And yes, some of those 400 miles have been in, ahem, "spirited" conditions.
#15
City mileage is so variable based on terrain, intersection density, and traffic. I think more useful is HWY mileage. What I've observed for my FWD TL with 200-300lb cargo/passenger load:
No A/C, avg speed 60-70mph = 28-30mpg
+ A/C = 27 mpg
Ambient temp 50-70deg
Not too bad if you ask me but pales in comparison to the new Ford Mustang's rumored 31mpg with 305hp
No A/C, avg speed 60-70mph = 28-30mpg
+ A/C = 27 mpg
Ambient temp 50-70deg
Not too bad if you ask me but pales in comparison to the new Ford Mustang's rumored 31mpg with 305hp
#16
City mileage is so variable based on terrain, intersection density, and traffic. I think more useful is HWY mileage. What I've observed for my FWD TL with 200-300lb cargo/passenger load:
No A/C, avg speed 60-70mph = 28-30mpg
+ A/C = 27 mpg
Ambient temp 50-70deg
Not too bad if you ask me but pales in comparison to the new Ford Mustang's rumored 31mpg with 305hp
No A/C, avg speed 60-70mph = 28-30mpg
+ A/C = 27 mpg
Ambient temp 50-70deg
Not too bad if you ask me but pales in comparison to the new Ford Mustang's rumored 31mpg with 305hp
you got the best mileage...geez
#17
Not true, there were several members claiming HWY mpg > 30 on the MID in the summer months even with A/C on, for the FWD that is.
I think the mpg is up to 10% worse on the AWD due to the increased wt, hp, AWD drag, and higher final drive ratio.
I think the mpg is up to 10% worse on the AWD due to the increased wt, hp, AWD drag, and higher final drive ratio.
#19
took a trip from LA to SF last weekend with about 800 miles on new 6MT. averaged 25mpg @ 80mph on the way there. on the way back about 22mpg @ 90mph.. not bad.. not great.
averaging about 22mpg 50/50
averaging about 22mpg 50/50
#21
When I took my trip from MA to MI i drove 75mph and averaged about 25mpg. I do 100% city and I get 17mpg with winter tires and the winter fuel we get here in NE. I'd imagine I'll get 18 or maybe 19 in the summer.
#22
I do about 90% city and 10% Highway and I've been averaging about 17-18 mpg. I'm actually kind of surprised since I drive somewhat aggressively and have a Takeda Intake installed, which I love to take advantage of at every opportunity!
#24
#26
I think I'm averaging 24-25 combined. I drive more highway than city - probably 70% highway, 30% city. I put on about 24000 miles a year on my car.
I don't really care about the fuel efficiency that much. If my efficiency now is 24mpg and if it were 28mpg that saves me $415/year. No big deal. I can make that up easily by eating out less.
I don't really care about the fuel efficiency that much. If my efficiency now is 24mpg and if it were 28mpg that saves me $415/year. No big deal. I can make that up easily by eating out less.
#27
The difference I notice is about 1-2 MPG more when under 70. When I had my Maxima, I noticed that I get a few more miles from a tank when cruising at 68 vs. 72. Then I was doing 52 mile commutes one way, all highway.
This is by no means scientific but a visual "Hmmmm...."
#29
i live in Vancouver, with the different measurements here, i got in average 16.7L/100KM, can anyone tell me what is that equal to in mpg?
personally i found it quite gas consuming comparing to previous car that i had, the nissan pathfinder. thought i can save some gas money after switching to this car.
BTW, any Canadians here?
personally i found it quite gas consuming comparing to previous car that i had, the nissan pathfinder. thought i can save some gas money after switching to this car.
BTW, any Canadians here?
#30
Just like Jason said, the Instant MPG readout. Yes it flucuates but on average that's what I visually noticed. I do long commutes (NJ - Boston) so I can "play" with certain parameters when I drive. On a separate note, one weekend I drove a local highway where the speed limit is 50. Man, readout read over 30 MPG for the length of the entire drive.
The difference I notice is about 1-2 MPG more when under 70. When I had my Maxima, I noticed that I get a few more miles from a tank when cruising at 68 vs. 72. Then I was doing 52 mile commutes one way, all highway.
This is by no means scientific but a visual "Hmmmm...."
The difference I notice is about 1-2 MPG more when under 70. When I had my Maxima, I noticed that I get a few more miles from a tank when cruising at 68 vs. 72. Then I was doing 52 mile commutes one way, all highway.
This is by no means scientific but a visual "Hmmmm...."
A car's best MPG is achieved in a compromise of where the gasoline engine's most efficient (highest torque) RPM range is, and the lowest speed you can reasonably travel.
It's not always a straight shot that slower equals better fuel efficiency, but it looks like it does in this case!
#31
Answering to kingjoker, yes there are canadians here :-)
Got my AWD since early December, averaging about 13.5-14l/100km on a 50-50 city/highway, that's on winter tires, car isn't sleeping outside, so no idle heating or almost. This past winter has been quite easy too, almost no snow & cold in here (Qc), may look a bit like in Vancouver :-)
To convert l/km -> m/g in Canada, here is the formula : mi/gal = 282,48 ÷ L/100 km
so 14l/100km = 20.13m/gal, and your 16.7l/100 = 16.9m/gal
Cheers.
Got my AWD since early December, averaging about 13.5-14l/100km on a 50-50 city/highway, that's on winter tires, car isn't sleeping outside, so no idle heating or almost. This past winter has been quite easy too, almost no snow & cold in here (Qc), may look a bit like in Vancouver :-)
To convert l/km -> m/g in Canada, here is the formula : mi/gal = 282,48 ÷ L/100 km
so 14l/100km = 20.13m/gal, and your 16.7l/100 = 16.9m/gal
Cheers.
#32
Yup, it's a 2TON car with 300HP and an active AWD system... what do you expect?
What's funny to me is when people drop 40k on a car and complain about the MPG, if you can't afford to fill it up every week, you can't afford the car.
I was pretty impressed that the numbers on the sticker matched up exactly with the actual MPG. I've bought cars that have said 25 MPG city, and actually got 20. This one was spot on.
What's funny to me is when people drop 40k on a car and complain about the MPG, if you can't afford to fill it up every week, you can't afford the car.
I was pretty impressed that the numbers on the sticker matched up exactly with the actual MPG. I've bought cars that have said 25 MPG city, and actually got 20. This one was spot on.
#33
No, not scientific, but it's a help and shows that you knew what you were talking about, so thanks. :-)
A car's best MPG is achieved in a compromise of where the gasoline engine's most efficient (highest torque) RPM range is, and the lowest speed you can reasonably travel.
It's not always a straight shot that slower equals better fuel efficiency, but it looks like it does in this case!
A car's best MPG is achieved in a compromise of where the gasoline engine's most efficient (highest torque) RPM range is, and the lowest speed you can reasonably travel.
It's not always a straight shot that slower equals better fuel efficiency, but it looks like it does in this case!
Slower definitely does not always mean better fuel efficiency like you said. I'm sure if I did 35 MPH up to Boston, I would not be getting 25 MPG! There's a sweet spot somewhere.
#34
George, a slight correction. It's the AVG MPG display and not the Instant MPG graph. As a side note, my commute yesterday from NJ to Boston averaged 25.5 MPG cruising about 72 MPH. The weather is warmer though, around 50 deg. F. It's going to be higher once they stop selling the ethanol winter gas.
Slower definitely does not always mean better fuel efficiency like you said. I'm sure if I did 35 MPH up to Boston, I would not be getting 25 MPG! There's a sweet spot somewhere.
Slower definitely does not always mean better fuel efficiency like you said. I'm sure if I did 35 MPH up to Boston, I would not be getting 25 MPG! There's a sweet spot somewhere.
Where in Boston do you go when you come up here?
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#36
People say Herb Chambers in Framingham but I have not used them so far.
#37
Answering to kingjoker, yes there are canadians here :-)
Got my AWD since early December, averaging about 13.5-14l/100km on a 50-50 city/highway, that's on winter tires, car isn't sleeping outside, so no idle heating or almost. This past winter has been quite easy too, almost no snow & cold in here (Qc), may look a bit like in Vancouver :-)
To convert l/km -> m/g in Canada, here is the formula : mi/gal = 282,48 ÷ L/100 km
so 14l/100km = 20.13m/gal, and your 16.7l/100 = 16.9m/gal
Cheers.
Got my AWD since early December, averaging about 13.5-14l/100km on a 50-50 city/highway, that's on winter tires, car isn't sleeping outside, so no idle heating or almost. This past winter has been quite easy too, almost no snow & cold in here (Qc), may look a bit like in Vancouver :-)
To convert l/km -> m/g in Canada, here is the formula : mi/gal = 282,48 ÷ L/100 km
so 14l/100km = 20.13m/gal, and your 16.7l/100 = 16.9m/gal
Cheers.
#38
25-27mpg average, 70% highway, the worst tank I have seen was 23 or 24mpg, that was mostly city and having fun gassing it. Don't quite understand how some are getting less than 20mpg. Must have a lead foot.
#40
It's because we have the SH-AWD. Our cars are heavier, have a bigger engine, and have AWD which adds to parasitic loss more. The FWD is the better choice for more highway driving where you want to stretch your MPGs.