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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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AWD Four Wheel Burnout

Fellow 3.7'ers how easily if at all can you do an AWD burnout? If so specify if you're MT or AT?
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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Stupid and not possible with a TL.
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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This is such an odd question... Might be able to get the wheels to chirp a bit if you dropped the clutch with the wheels turned. Other than that, these cars don't have nearly enough torque.
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:33 PM
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What would you consider a bit? 1 second, 2, 3? How much TQ do you think you'd need to be putting down to do it?
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 10:45 PM
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i wouldnt call it a burn out.. but more of a peel out.. but you need lots of torque for a decent peel out
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 11:14 PM
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I can do a burnout easily. Just did one when I left my street. All season tires, winter snow, traction off.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 06:43 AM
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I meant on dry conditions. Altering road conditions by oiling the street, tire soaking, steep uphills, also do not count; no aids. This burn/peel out is a product of power you're putting down. In case you're MT, it can also be a product of clutch mastery. So I ask again, 3.7'ers under dry conditions have you ever done an AWD burn/peel out? Not just chirping the tires for a fraction of a second.

Mods can I get a title edit? I'd like it to say: AWD - Four Wheel Burnout/Extended Peel Out

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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
I meant on dry conditions. Altering road conditions by oiling the street, tire soaking, steep uphills, also do not count; no aids. This burn/peel out is a product of power you're putting down. In case you're MT, it can also be a product of clutch mastery. So I ask again, 3.7'ers under dry conditions have you ever done an AWD burn/peel out? Not just chirping the tires for a fraction of a second.

Mods can I get a title edit? I'd like it to say: AWD - Four Wheel Burnout/Extended Peel Out
i suppose if you drop the clutch, holding the brake and gas....
butt, you're seriously damaging your ride like that.

wear on tires, wear on clutch, wear on drive train.........

very dumb to drop the clutch and put wear on your car for nothing. unless you have unlimited amount of money and can replace tires and drive train because of abuse
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 07:17 AM
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I've never done it. Our cars are made to get traction. I even tried to "floor it" with cheap china brand Triangle tires and I still got traction.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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Even the high HP and TQ AWD cars have a hard time peeling out.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 07:53 AM
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Yeah, no burnouts here (though I haven't tried very hard)...just chirping upon launch and shifting into second.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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So no spinning through first and leaving rubber?
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:33 AM
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but why?
trying to prove your dick is bigger to some one?

it just fucks up your car.
axles, mounts....

you will tear up the LSD.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:49 AM
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but why?
trying to prove your dick is bigger to some one?
it just fucks up your car.
axles, mounts....

you will tear up the LSD.
We both know mines bigger . I'm just curious about others experiences on the matter, since a lot of guys here have different levels of bolt on's. I'd like to know at what point do you step over that line if at all possible. If possible though, I wouldn't recommend doing it often.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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even with power, its still not worth it.

mounts, axles, LSD....
the better dick swinging experiment would be the quarter mile.
where you dont necessarily have to beat on your car to get a decent time.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:59 AM
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I'd post something up, but I don't have a time slip. I'm still working out the kinks. I'll have something for you guys soon...ish
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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p.s. Evo and STi guy's HATE running from a dig.
why? cuz it fucks up their drive train to rev very high and drop the clutch to be in their correct power band at launch.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:16 AM
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Is that a concern I share considering I'm AT and not over revving?
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:20 AM
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ohh, i assumed you were 6mt.
silly on my part.

i think the best you could do is torque brake/launch.
and even then, I dont think it will allow you to hold the rpms high enough to let you do a true burnout. correct me if im wrong
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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Good luck...as owner of a hemi Charger with AWD as well, doing an all wheel drive burnout is near impossible, and I have intake and exhaust. The closest I got was in winter going through a corner I was able to get all break loose. IMHO, both of these cars weigh alot and put too much weight down. The torque needs are huge to pull something off.

But there is always a way, depends on the amount of stress you want to put on the car. I watched a STI do a burnout on dry pavement, but I imagine he had to rev high and dump the clutch.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
So no spinning through first and leaving rubber?
No, not really...I don't get the RPM's high enough before releasing the clutch. Not really sure of whereabouts in the range I am but I'd guess @ 2.5k. Even then that's only on rare occasions.

I can't even get second to chirp regularly. I chalk it up to the CDV but who knows...maybe I'm just not as good of a manual driver as I'd like to think.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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Tie the car to a tree or add power.

My Trailblazer SS with 400+ lb ft would chirp all 4 but not leave tire marks unless I skid on a turn.

Also, best AWD burnout pic ever.

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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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^^^

Yea that's pretty massive, I said burnout meant extended peel out.

Anyway excuse my child like joy, I've had/been working on this project for over a month and just recently decided to show part of it's potential to two friends. One of them filmed it, I didn't know till later that he had filmed this run. I could've further roasted my tires but in doing so, might've taken out my transmission. I still have some kinks to work out to get my low end back, but the top end is pretty sweet. 275 summer rubber is on the way, along with time slips. I've noticed that depending on my take off, having 1/4 tank, no passengers and a nearly empty trunk kinda sort'a affect 0-60.


Without further ado:
http://s952.photobucket.com/user/vit...b227a.mp4.html

Express = impress, DOH!
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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The video doesn't work, at least for me.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Yea the video doesn't work, enlighten us on what you're doing or plan on doing. You never know you might get some helpful tips or something from members on here.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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i asked heartTLs to expound on his mods in another thread but he didnt want to disclose them.
I do agree with brock, you could get more hints tips or tricks be letting us know your plans
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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Love the caption Matt, did you get the coils in yet? Hmm, I can view it on my work PC, but not on my iphone. Justn any suggestions? Brock I rather not get into details as of yet.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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The problem with the TL when it comes to burnouts is that the AWD system is designed to do exactly the opposite, the car is constantly transferring torque around to different wheels looking for grip. You need full-time AWD to do a proper AWD burnout which is why you see the EVO's and STI's doing it.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
Love the caption Matt, did you get the coils in yet? Hmm, I can view it on my work PC, but not on my iphone. Justn any suggestions? Brock I rather not get into details as of yet.
Ok, on keeping it confidential. I was trying to look at the video from my iPad so that might be the issue.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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I've driven and but dyno Carlos aka HeartTL and his car pulls very hard, we did some pulls a few days ago and I am amazed how hard his car pull. We have the same TL and mines feels so slow when coming from his to mine.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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p.s. whatever you did, heartls, I guarantee it's not something new. the J-series has been out for over 10 years.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Has anyone done a 4-5k RPM clutch drop with one of these cars?
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HeartTLs
Love the caption Matt, did you get the coils in yet? Hmm, I can view it on my work PC, but not on my iphone. Justn any suggestions? Brock I rather not get into details as of yet.
Haha, yea I got the TEIN SS. Cant wait to get them on!
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
p.s. whatever you did, heartls, I guarantee it's not something new. the J-series has been out for over 10 years.

I'm 100% confident to say it's not something new and I'm nearly as confident to say it's new for a UA9/8.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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thus the secrecy.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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Obviously it's FI
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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What PSI are you running?
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wreak
Obviously it's FI
i dont think so.

it's gotta be a small hotrod trick or some sort.
cams, or maybe even head work.
but then the you would need a tune... even with a FI..you would need a tune.

a ported and polished intake manifold and its runners while boring out the throttle body would see gains without a tune.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Carlos, very impressive sir!!! Dang that baby revs hard!!! Nice work.

I wouldn't consider this a burnout though but more like a "peelout" lol.

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Damn, I can't see the video either...upload it to Youtube!

I know what you did though, you got one of those ebay chips didn't you?
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