Any good info on when '12 MMC will be out?
01-19-2011, 10:45 AM
#41
Looks like they will maintain the status quo for the most part with plans to up the ante with the 5G.
01-19-2011, 12:59 PM
#42
Just an FYI guys...I've been working with several dealers the last couple of weeks there will NOT be a Type-S in 2012. In fact that stated not to expect a Type-S till the 5th generation TL. Acura is not planning to release the Type-S because the SH-AWD is basically their Type-S right now in the 4th generation TL.
Just like one dealer stated, what else can Acura do to make a Type-S? Add a different body kit to the bottom the car? The SH-AWD already has all the options you could want and comes with the bigger engine. So those of you hoping and waiting for a Type-S in 2012, I wouldn't give your hopes up for it. I do know the dealer also said that the 2012 will probably be the last year for the 4th generation TL and expect to see a big change for the 2013 which will then be the 5th generation TL.
As I have an 08 TL Type-S now, I'd love to have one in the 4th generation and tried to wait before picking up my new car this weekend. Just like many of the dealers told me there will not be a Type-S this year, but the nose and back end will get the change which has been confirmed here already.
Just like one dealer stated, what else can Acura do to make a Type-S? Add a different body kit to the bottom the car? The SH-AWD already has all the options you could want and comes with the bigger engine. So those of you hoping and waiting for a Type-S in 2012, I wouldn't give your hopes up for it. I do know the dealer also said that the 2012 will probably be the last year for the 4th generation TL and expect to see a big change for the 2013 which will then be the 5th generation TL.
As I have an 08 TL Type-S now, I'd love to have one in the 4th generation and tried to wait before picking up my new car this weekend. Just like many of the dealers told me there will not be a Type-S this year, but the nose and back end will get the change which has been confirmed here already.
I'm not saying what you said was wrong, but my guess is that the dealers are doing a lot of guessing.
01-19-2011, 01:26 PM
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I strongly doubt acura would go through the trouble of going through a relatively extensive MMC only to have it there for 1 year. If acura goes on the normal TL cycle (even with the reduced 2011MY, extended 2012MY), the 2014 will be the 5GTL.
I'm not saying what you said was wrong, but my guess is that the dealers are doing a lot of guessing.
I'm not saying what you said was wrong, but my guess is that the dealers are doing a lot of guessing.
Honestly I would much rather see it happen in 2014. Cause that means when I am done with the lease on my 2011 I am picking up this this weekend, possible the 5th generation TL will be released. Not that it means I may get it, but it will be an new body style.
01-19-2011, 02:08 PM
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01-19-2011, 07:55 PM
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01-19-2011, 08:17 PM
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01-19-2011, 11:02 PM
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01-20-2011, 07:07 AM
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you should have bought m37x or m56x....
I pick m56x anyday over tl.. tl competes with g37..
i'm in the market for a new car and i drove g37x and 2011 tl shawd.
if you drive g37x and step on gas hard, you feel the punch in the gut.
if you drive m56x with 50/50 torque up to 20miles(i think), you will never go back to 300hp tl..
01-20-2011, 09:09 AM
#51
Drifting
i think M37 interior is superior and much more plushy..
you should have bought m37x or m56x....
I pick m56x anyday over tl.. tl competes with g37..
i'm in the market for a new car and i drove g37x and 2011 tl shawd.
if you drive g37x and step on gas hard, you feel the punch in the gut.
if you drive m56x with 50/50 torque up to 20miles(i think), you will never go back to 300hp tl..
you should have bought m37x or m56x....
I pick m56x anyday over tl.. tl competes with g37..
i'm in the market for a new car and i drove g37x and 2011 tl shawd.
if you drive g37x and step on gas hard, you feel the punch in the gut.
if you drive m56x with 50/50 torque up to 20miles(i think), you will never go back to 300hp tl..
01-20-2011, 12:24 PM
#53
Some people complain about all of the buttons on the TL interior (the same pro reviewers who love anything Infiniti, BMW). But, man, look at that Infiniti. That is one overwhelming layout. Tiered levels of buttons and dials. I demand a button/dial count. Is that real wood in the Infiniti? Or is it plastic?
01-20-2011, 12:44 PM
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01-20-2011, 07:42 PM
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The Sicilian
I took a ride in an M37 and I have to say I think it's totally different than the TL interior.
M37 = Formal, Executive, more of a Bankers Interior.(Plush?/Frumpy?)
TL = Sporty,Casual, more of a Yuppy Interior.
(luxury?/Younger?)
I would rather have the TL.
M37 = Formal, Executive, more of a Bankers Interior.(Plush?/Frumpy?)
TL = Sporty,Casual, more of a Yuppy Interior.
(luxury?/Younger?)
I would rather have the TL.
01-21-2011, 12:04 AM
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Some people complain about all of the buttons on the TL interior (the same pro reviewers who love anything Infiniti, BMW). But, man, look at that Infiniti. That is one overwhelming layout. Tiered levels of buttons and dials. I demand a button/dial count. Is that real wood in the Infiniti? Or is it plastic?
01-21-2011, 05:54 AM
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Having owned 09 TL and 11 M37 I would say the M37 to me is much more upscale and provides a feel and look of luxury. While it does have a few buttons they are styled in more of a classy luxy look and feel, while the TL is more Utilitarian in design and feel. I still think the Acura is built better. In recent weeks I have test driven Volvo S60 and Audi A4 and to Me if Acura can get it's exterior and interior styling on track they would have a far superior car. The Audi electonics had a large lag factor as does Ford MyTouch Sync.
01-21-2011, 11:50 AM
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Also, from a utility standpoint, when compared to my civic, the door pockets are too small to be useful (my civic can fit 4 500ml water bottles, the tl can't even fit one), and the glovebox can't really fit anything except for the users manual and a handful of papers.
The armrest is also extremely awkward, i hope they fix it for 2012 or the 5GTL. The U shape is awkward in both look and feel (not comfortable). The felted "drawer" doesn't have a passthrough for any usb or audio cable so the fact that it can be hidden is also useless. The actual amount of storage in there is poor as well. They should take note from the RDX, that this has credit card, pen and coin holders, it also locks, and is overall very useful.
I duno, i guess i was expecting too much after seeing how efficiently the space was in my 06 civic, and expected it to be even better for almost double the price.
01-21-2011, 11:57 AM
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Racer
Having owned 09 TL and 11 M37 I would say the M37 to me is much more upscale and provides a feel and look of luxury. While it does have a few buttons they are styled in more of a classy luxy look and feel, while the TL is more Utilitarian in design and feel. I still think the Acura is built better. In recent weeks I have test driven Volvo S60 and Audi A4 and to Me if Acura can get it's exterior and interior styling on track they would have a far superior car. The Audi electonics had a large lag factor as does Ford MyTouch Sync.
01-21-2011, 09:57 PM
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Funny you mention the S60 and the A4. I too just recently drove them back to back. I found the A4 to be way overrated especially in the interior category and way overpriced. The Volvo actually had a nicer interior, handled better and pulled hard. I came away impressed.
01-25-2011, 08:20 PM
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^^^
I'm not saying you should definitely buy the TL, but I'm gonna say you definitely should not buy the Volvo. Horrible depreciation, poor reliability, uncertain future. If you are unhappy with the electronics in your Infiniti, I can't imagine you'll be happy long term with a Volvo.
I'm not saying you should definitely buy the TL, but I'm gonna say you definitely should not buy the Volvo. Horrible depreciation, poor reliability, uncertain future. If you are unhappy with the electronics in your Infiniti, I can't imagine you'll be happy long term with a Volvo.
Now slushboxes only, and cheaper parts are already tricklinng in, thanks comrades at Geely
01-25-2011, 09:09 PM
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Racer
The pic you have up of that Evolve S60R, that car was for sale on EBay about a month ago. I almost bid on it. I love the S60R, may still have to own one one day.
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