TSX69

He calls it Apex Blue Pearl but I believe that is Phantom Violet Pearl:

You Tube

alpha0

I am surprised at 0-60 time of 7.2. AoA got 6.1 in previous generation sh-awd model.

fiatlux

I wouldn't put too much stock on his numbers. They tend to be all over the place and can vary quite a bit with the magazine numbers, which I imagine are much more consistent and accurate.

TSX69

Bamagirl77

Wait...I thought he sold Toyota's...lol

papachan

Acura MDX vs Lexus RX: Which Japanese Luxury Crossover is Right For You? - AutoGuide.com

Legend2TL

He makes note of the quality of the panel fit finish as well the paint

TSX69

https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/g369...022-acura-mdx/


[size=26px]5 Reasons I Liked the 2022 Acura MDX More Than I Expected[/size]Acura's new MDX sets a high bar for the midsize luxury SUV class.
By Will Sabel Courtney Jul 27, 2021
Will Sabel Courtney Full disclosure: when the 2022 Acura MDX rolled up to my door, I'd honestly forgotten that it was an all-new vehicle for the 2022 model year. After all, the automotive world is constantly hurling new and updated crossovers in front of us; I remembered that the 2022 MDX had a carryover powertrain from the 2020 version, so in my mind, I'd taken one quick pass over the press release and assumed Acura was using "all new" in the fast-and-loose way some carmakers do for updates that amount to little more than a mid-life refresh.



After a long day of driving this Acura, however...well, let's just say there was no mistaking it for the previous one. As it turns out, Acura's new MDX is one damn impressive luxury SUV — and very much worthy of paying attention to.
The 2022 MDX is surprisingly fun to drive Acura Much like the also-new TLX and other Acuras before, all-wheel-drive versions of the MDX boast Acura's torque-vectoring, wonderfully named Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive system, which generally biases power delivery in favor of the rear axle but can shuffle it around as needed to maximize grip – and, more entertainingly, push even this hearty crossover through turns with the sort of vivacity that'll coax a smile from a driver's mouth.



The 290-horsepower V6 beneath the hood isn't quite as entertaining; it's a carryover from the previous model, and 1 of the few naturally aspirated base engines left in this category. (A turbocharged V6 Type S model arrives later this year, making 355 ponies.) Still, the 10-speed automatic does a solid job of keeping the engine in the powerband when you want to push it — more so if you grab the ginormous drive mode selector in the center of the dash and twist it in a more sporting direction.
This Acura has a killer sound system Acura There are plenty of high-end sound systems in luxury cars today, with ever-escalating speaker counts and ever-more-powerful systems becoming yet another weapon in the high-end vehicle arms race. As I mentioned in the review of the TLX, however, Acura's ELS system — especially the top-shelf 16-speaker ELS 3D version of my tester – manages to distinguish itself even from that competitive pack through exquisite tuning and design, creating an audio experience that's all but unrivaled in the industry. Put it this way: it's the sort of system that had me seriously considering adding a lossless audio streaming service to my iPhone.
The interior is every bit worthy of a luxury car Acura My tester was a top-of-the-line example with the Advance Package, a setup that adds a brow-elevating $14,250 to the MDX's $48,245 starting price. Still, after having sampled the MDX Advance for a few hundred miles, I think I'd do my damndest to stretch my budget to its $62,495 window sticker if I were shopping for a midsize luxury crossover. In addition to the top-level 16-speaker ELS 3D stereo, the Advance brings with it some of the softest leather I've seen in a car under $100,000, surround view cameras for easier parking, excellent ventilated seats, LED interior lighting, parking sonar and plenty of other features designed to make life a little easier. And while standard black leather may be timeless, I highly recommend opting for the Espresso brown cowhide found on my test car.
The new MDX is a looker Acura Granted, so was the one that came before; Acura MDXs have generally always been solidly attractive SUVs with looks that fit their particular eras well. Still, while this new one may not be the most elegant expression of Acura's current design language — as Porsche knows, what looks good on a sedan or sports car's front end doesn't always translate well to an SUV's face — it's a dynamic, muscular presence. with creased, strong haunches and Coke-bottle-esque flanks. When people see those Superman shield grille and Clint Eastwood-squint LED headlights in their rearview, they're liable to move over — and that's what a bold-looking car should be able to do.
It's an Acura, so it should last for years Acura Hondas and Acuras have long ranked among the most reliable cars on the road, and that's true of the MDX, as well. (A close friend of mine has a 2003 MDX that his father bought new; it's still going strong today with more than 250,000 miles on the clock.) A sizeable chunk of buyers will likely choose to lease the MDX, of course, but those that opt to buy it and hang onto it should be able to do so knowing it has better-than-average odds of running well for a long, long time to come.



Base Price: $48,245

Powertrain: 3.5-liter V6; 10-speed automatic; front- or all-wheel-drive

Horsepower: 290

Torque: 267 lb-ft

Fuel Economy: 19 mpg city, 25/26 mpg highway (FWD / AWD)

Seats: 5 nicely, 7 in a pinch

papachan

2022 Acura MDX review: More style, more tech, more luxury - Roadshow (cnet.com)

F23A4

bugsnest

Just going by price alone, is this even a fair comparison?

ELIN

Yeah but there aren't many 3-row SUV's to choose from other than non-premium makes. The true luxury makes have largely ignored 3-row mid-size SUVs for good reason (better for kids or small adults).

Tony Pac

Agreed and with all fairness to Mazda and Acura. Do you really want to even think of racing these cars? lol I think comparing them in terms of feature, price and space. No problem. But racing...c'mon!

bugsnest

Some of us soccer moms and dads like to race on the streets with our bad-ass mini-vans and SUV's, you know!

birdonamission

Even though this review is from the country of Panama and it's entirely in Spanish, I think it's very well put together. Great outside shots of the Advance in Fathom Blue Pearl (like mine! lol) in motion while being driven around Panama City streets. The guy seems to be giving great explanations of all the features...seems pretty thorough. Spanish-speakers can tell us if it's a good review.

papachan

papachan

TSX69

https://www.kbb.com/comparison/2022-...infiniti-qx60/

2022 Acura MDX vs. 2022 Infiniti QX60 Comparison


ByDoug Lloyd 10/07/2021 5:00pmAfter a thorough restyling, the 2022 Acura MDX and 2022 Infiniti QX60 both return with new looks inside and out. Here’s how they stack up.


2022 Acura MDX

2022 Acura MDX Starting Price: $47,925 | Price yours or View listings near you

Above Average: Roomy interior; wireless Apple CarPlay/Android Auto; high-performance Type S variant; resale value.

Below Average: Tire noise; not very fuel efficient; touchpad can be irritating.

Consensus: A complete overhaul for 2022 gives the Acura MDX a slightly roomier and elegant interior and a more robust chassis. Build quality is excellent as expected, and resale value will continue to be a strong point.


2022 Infiniti QX60

2022 Infiniti QX60 Starting Price: $47,875 | Price yours or View listings near you

Above Average: 3 rows of seating; 6,000-pound tow rating; handsome looks.

Below Average: Single engine choice; captain’s chairs only in Autograph trim; no knobs for stereo tuning; automatic sometimes searches for the right gear.
Consensus: A stylish, luxurious SUV, the 2022 Infiniti QX60 is well equipped and has 3 rows of seats for 6 or 7 passengers. The 3rd row is best for children, and the automatic transmission is not as smooth as it could be.


MDX vs. QX60: Sport and Style
Acura MDXIn production since 2001, the MDX has been a strong seller for Acura. But the company took 2021 off, and the 2022 Acura MDX is back after a full redesign that gave it a slightly longer and wider body and a sophisticated suspension.



While many of its competitors use turbocharged-4-cylinder engines, the base in the MDX is a 290-hp 3.5-liter V6 that provides smooth power, sent to either the front or all 4 wheels. Coming soon is the Type S, powered by a turbocharged 3.0-liter V6 and with Acura’s Super-Handling All-wheel Drive, Brembo brakes, and torque vectoring.



We like the angular exterior look of the 2022 MDX, which is complemented by a flexible interior with an optional removable center seat in the second row. The cabin is full of high-quality materials, with Acura’s impeccable build quality. We like the dash and its impressive infotainment screen, although the touchpad is a bit of a challenge to use while driving.



Standard features are generous and include a 9-speaker audio system, USB charging ports, tri-zone automatic climate control, synthetic leather upholstery, panoramic sunroof, and two 12.3-inch screens. Every 2022 MDX also comes with the AcuraWatch suite of safety systems including forward-collision warning, automatic emergency braking, lane-departure warning, and blind-spot monitor. Given Acura’s reputation for reliability, resale values are expected to be strong.


Infiniti QX60A consistent best-seller for Infiniti, the QX60 has been redesigned for 2022, a bit shorter and wider but still offering 3 rows of seats. Power comes from a 3.5-liter V6, and while it was previously connected via a CVT, there is now a 9-speed automatic. The new automatic gives the QX60 a snappier feel and raises its towing capacity to 6,000 pounds, but it can sometimes lag when you hit the accelerator. Drive goes to the front wheels, although all-wheel drive is also available.

The redesign gave the QX60 a flatter hood, higher shoulder line, and a new grille, which makes the SUV feel more planted and aggressive. Inside, there’s good space for passengers in the first two rows, although the 3rd is best for children or shorter adults.



Most trims accommodate seven passengers except the Autograph, whose second-row captain’s chairs reduce capacity to six. There is 14.5 cubic feet of cargo space behind the 3rd row, which expands to 75.4 cubes with all rows folded.

Standard features include simulated leather upholstery, tri-zone climate control, and 18-inch alloy wheels. Infotainment comes via a 12.3-inch infotainment screen that is controlled either by touch or a rotary knob on the console. Apple CarPlay and Android Auto come standard, as well as Wi-fi and 6 USB ports.



Higher trims add climate-controlled seats, navigation, around-view monitor, and 12.3-inch digital instrument panel. The Sensory model comes with massaging front seats, open-pore wood trim, and 17-speaker Bose audio system. The top Autograph trim boasts semi-aniline leather, center row captain’s chairs, panoramic roof, and towing package.


SimilaritiesStarting price; V6 power; fuel economy; fun to drive; optional all-wheel drive.


2022 Acura MDX AdvantagesPowerful upgrade engine; more standard equipment; sporty Type S model.
2022 Infiniti QX60 AdvantagesCargo space; sharper looks; higher tow rating.


Which One is Right for Me?The 2022 Acura MDX proves that a 3-row midsize SUV can still be fun. With a powerful engine and the optional Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive, the MDX is luxurious for passengers, but still enjoyable to drive even when you’re by yourself.

With a bold new look, the 2022 Infiniti QX60 looks great from every angle, drives well, and offers good interior space for passengers. It costs thousands less than the European competition, but still turns heads with style and luxury, inside and out.

Legend2TL

ESHBG

Ouch

EchoBrian

Auto journalist review embargo until March 8, but Kirk and Raiti (plus I think Alex, later tonight) have posted walk-arounds from the press event in Napa.

EchoBrian

Reviews are out! Embargo lifted!

fiatlux

Sounds like it's shaping up to be a more sporty (but not necessarily faster) alternative to the European mainline competition. I guess that bring this car back more inline with with Type S has traditionally been about.

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/03/08/...s-first-drive/
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...-drive-review/
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...-drive-review/
https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/44...y-of-the-badge
https://www.motor1.com/reviews/57200...s-first-drive/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-type-s-drive/
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/dri...k-and-fun.html

fiatlux

Kreifels has I think one of the first 0-60 times reported. Using a Racebox he got 0-60 in 6.15s torque braking to 2000RPMs. Factor in a 0.3s rollout, and that sounds about right for what you'd expect of a car that weighs 500lb more than the TLX Type S. Yeah it's slower than the competition, but I think we all knew that was going to be the case. The luxury aspect seems on point with the competition, so you're basically trading straight-line acceleration for better handling/steering feel.

Colorado Guy AF Ret.

Being faster doesn't make a certain veh. better. It's about ALL the driving dynamics bundled in to a package for a certain price, and it's up to us to decide,
if we can afford that price and IF it drives better...overall....than the competition. I had the '22 Advance model and loved it. This steps things up a notch or two,
but, for me the air ride is not necessary. The Adv. ride in Comfort was/is great!! I like the extra performance and Joe's drive showed how it really moves well,
handles, and brakes. Ride, comfort, quiet, so much is there. Front end looks a whole lot better than the GV80..for sure. And the Type S has features the GV
doesn't even offer.
Would I buy one...well, I'll know more after next Monday when my wife and I drive one.
For me items that aren't needed since the Adv. model is great as it is.
1. The 1,000 watt ELS 25 speaker system is overkill.
2. Air ride not needed
3. 21' wheels and crappy "self sealing tires."
4. NEEDS spare tire system like the Advance
5. Massage I can take or leave.
I may have more to add, comment on after I drive it next Monday.

alpha0

Will have to wait for official numbers from car and driver. Previous gen TLX and MDX had about 0.5 seconds difference in 0-60. They had weight difference of about 500 lb ( and both with J35 and 9zf). This generation also, Type S versions have same engine and transmission and about same weight difference. Let's see if 0-60 difference stays 0.5 seconds or increase.

WTF.Acura

Legend2TL

Type-S 0-60
C&D 0-60 5.6s (est)
Motor1 0-60 5.3s (est)
MotorTrend 0-60 5.5s(est)

Legend2TL

ELIN

I was somewhat close here. The official numbers may yet agree with me...

ColoRDX

Do post your thoughts as soon as you can after your test drive. I agree on the air ride not needed, 21" wheels with run flats (spare tire a must), Massage seats are a gimmick.
I can't say I agree with you on the 1,000 watt ELS. I'd have to listen to it. I don't like the choice of just black or blue interior on the Advance.
I just don't know if a Type S MDX is going to be worth $75K. For $75k I can buy a loaded BMW X5 xDrive 40i. I know it has its faults but it has a lot positives. The straight 6 B58 engine coupled to the
ZF8 trany is unbeatable. I doubt the Type S can run with it. The entry level X5 turns a 5.3 0-60 and it's not marketed as a performance crossover. I hope the Type S is everything it's cracked up to be and is accepted well.

alpha0

I dont understand this. BMW 540xi and X5 M40i have same engine and transmission. As per car and driver, x5 is only 0.2 seconds slower 0-60 compared to 540xi despite it being about 700+ lbs heavier.

So why is MDX-S with same engine/transmission compared to TLX-S slower by about 0,8 seconds 0-60 when it is only 550lbs heavier?

fiatlux

It's possible that the 540i is traction limited, which is why 0-60 is almost the same. However, if you look at 5-60, 0-100, etc. the differences are much bigger.

Legend2TL

Gearing and tire size are part of acceleration, so gotta see how what the difference between the 540xi vs the X5 M40i

Colorado Guy AF Ret.

1 16 speakers, 710 watts, 16 channels in the Adv. ELS sound system is amazing. I should know. So, more speakers and 1,00 watts is not going to make it THAT much better to justify even having it. IMHO. But,
I'll be open minded and listen to it and see IF it is that much better. Just doubt.it. I'll plug in with my thumb drive with lots of music on it and test it out.
2. What IS the price of the BMW...LOADED to match the MDX Type S Adv???? I KNOW it's MORE $$...LOTS. IF I'm wrong I'll apologize. I'll price it out tonight. But, I believe the BMW is way more!
3. The Type S doesn't HAVE to run with it. Why...what's the point? Are you going to drag race it?? Plenty of power in the Type S in an all around great package.
4. IF I were to buy it, the wheels/tires are being sold to the dealer. Putting on 20" Acura wheels with 275/45/20 Continental DWS 06 Plus tires...used them often..great tire. I'll also order the individual
pieces for the spare tire system that comes on the Advance and install those.
I know, more expense with tires/wheels....but, that's what I do, and have done often. Got to be right for me. Must have a spare! I did this same thing on the '22 RDX A-Spec/Adv I have now. Went from the 20"
wheels/tires down to 19" but, upped the sidewall so diameter is same as the 20" ones. Works out just fine. Ordered all the pieces for a spare tire system and installed them myself.
I'll pay MSRP for the Type S, and I get great discounts on all accessories...wheels too. So, with my Mgr. buying the take offs, which he always does, and gives pretty decent $$ for them too...so in the end,
I'm still going to come in under the BMW you mentioned....I think...LOL!! Actually I should. I'll know more later when I price out your BMW. But, I've known MANY BMW owners....and in time they are crying
in their German beer!! Upkeep costs, maint. issues, heavy depreciation in value...and BMW's are known for that...not made up...just real facts. They're nice at first, but, in time, not so great. I know there are
BMW fan boys here who will want to argue this...but, I won't get dragged in to a BMW fight. Again, I've known too many friends, family, and others who have owned them.

ColoRDX

I too have the advance pkg with the ELS system. I can't go so far as to say it sounds "amazing". It's decent. Sound is in the ear of the beholder.
I said you can get a loaded BMW X5 for $75K. I didn't compare feature for feature. Type S comes stand with 21" wheels. Why would you want to downgrade to 20" & lose some handling performance.
I agree with you on the spare tire. Too many mfgr's cheap out on a spare. What is the total cost ( mounting hardware, jack, tools, tire and wheel) ?
If I'm paying $75K for a performance crossover, I'd like to see better acceleration than high 5's 0-60 like I read the Type S is producing.
I'm no fanboy of BMW or any brand or mfgr. (except for maybe Heinz ketchup) My vehicles have come from Hyundai to Mercedes -Benz. Because one or another vehicle and or mfgr was good yesterday does not make it so today..
Acura is a very good Premium class vehicle. I own one and may be interested in another, but it really isn't (at least not yet) a true luxury car.
Again, please post your findings (opinions) on the Type S after your test drive.

Hodog16

I just built out a loaded X5 x40i and it was $79,500 sticker, easily within striking distance as anybody affording a $73k vehicle can afford an $80k vehicle. I didn't bother looking at an X5 because I'd rather have a top Acura trim than a base BMW trim. Also this is my odd thinking, but the same X5's could have easily been bought for 10%+ off MSRP before the pandemic but the Type S has only been an MSRP deal, so I would not want to pay MSRP for the same vehicle others were getting for thousands off a year or two ago. If I were going to go X5, I wouldn't consider anything less than the M50i trim line--now that's a crossover that will get up and go--but that's more than I want to spend right now.

As for the spare tire issue, I agree a spare tire is a must, and I only really like full size.

The Type S has a different spare tire kit than the regular MDX. It's part number 06421-TYB-A00ZA. It comes with a 19" spare rim and the tire has to be ordered separately. With the kit and the tire it should be around $280 or less, depending on what discount you get.

I chose to order a 20" take off rim on ebay and a correct diameter tire to get a full size spare, so all in with the kit, my full spare tire set up cost me about $650.

ColoRDX

I said a loaded X5 for $75K you built one for $79.5K. I guess it's what you consider loaded. The M50i V8 has been a problem child. I'd stay away. The straight 6 3.0L turbo hooked to the ZF8 trany is a strong powertrain in the 40i and has been quite reliable. BMW has published a 5.3 0-60 for the 40i. I'm sure you know BMW sandbags their 0-60 times. I'd bet the 40i runs closer to 5.0 flat.
I know German cars have their issues but, how is it they get so much more power and performance out of their engine displacement vs the Japanese, Koreans and most all other manufacturers?

MarcoTLX

well I am guessing that loaded to him (and to me) meant that it has all if not most of the features that an MDX Type-S Advanced would have that's standard for the MDX-S Advanced. When I did the build making sure the X5 had everything an MDX-S Advanced had, the price came out to $78,050 (Destination fee included) where as the MDX came out to $73,095 w/ destination fee, assuming that one doesn't add one of the 4 $500 paint options to their MDX-S Adv. Build... though the price difference between the two is not that large It would really come down to the individuals needs and wants from this segment and what brand they really like.

ColoRDX

I agree it comes down to the individual. There are pluses and minuses with each vehicle. This is an Acura forum and I really rather not go into a German car is better than an Acura thing.
A few words here and there is okay but much more is disrespectful. I'd feel the same If I was on a German car forum and bragging up my Acura.
In 2021 I purchased and owned 2 new German crossovers, 2 new Honda (Passport) crossovers and 1 new Acura (RDX) crossover. I've a pretty good feel for how the vehicles stack up against each other. I'm not speaking about long term reliability, cost of maintenance, depreciation. etc. etc. I'm talking about just the physical vehicles themselves.