TimothyChooo

So which of the three wheels do you guys think will be nice on my SSM TL.

and i was wondering if all these wheels are three piece or cast.

The first one is a rota g force
the second and third are vorrstoen es1
and the last one is vorrstoen es3

and the wheels will all be 18x9.5 or 18x10.5

pitorican

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I really like the rota and the varrstoen

NC916

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Varrstoen es3 looks really nice on a TL dropped.

05_NBP_TL

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Since your going with 18's, I would go with the rotas or the last pic (es3's).

Rotas get my vote

Undying Dreams

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First wheel gets my vote.

The Machine

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I wouldn't mind seeing the rota's or the es3 go on the car. And you're going 9.5 all around or 10.5 all around? Or are you doing a staggered setup, 9.5F 10.5R?

imj0257

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Forgestar F14s

SharksBreath

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Predatorbird

I wouldn't mind seeing the es3's on your car.

The Machine

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Aren't the ES3's pretty tough to find? I wasn't particularly looking to buy these rims when I bought my Varrstoen's, but I didn't really see the ES3's on any site selling Varrstoen rims.

06tl4life

Varrstoens! es3

NetoAzul

Yo cholo, ES1 is they way too go.

Italiano

Yes they are all cast...You can't do 10.5 all around.... either 9.5 all...or staggering with 10.5 rear... will be aggressive thou...Varrostens have my vote...

UA6

TimothyChooo

I probably will do a 9.5 all around, im not to fond of the aggressive set up. So right now i think im leaning towards the Es3 because i want some lip, and i really like the mesh but i don't think it will look good at an 18. and i really don't wanna get a 19.

TimothyChooo

do i have enough room to run a 10.5 and i think im getting a +30 offset because its closer to stock. or do i run a +22. im so confused with all these numbers.

rossv1

What wheel is that in the first and last picture?

Predatorbird

Do you even understand what an aggressive set up is?

The Machine

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Not sure if serious, or just didn't read the original post, lmao

imj0257

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glad you agree

Italiano

Definitely go with 19's for the ones with lips....10.5 et 30 rear is gonna be flush....O.p just do 9.5 et 30 all around... et22 will be flush and will need stretching of tires, roll, and camber....

TimothyChooo

The first a rota force and the last is a vorrsteon es3

TimothyChooo

Nope. that obvi why i asked it. cause i wasnt FOND of it.

The Machine

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An aggressive setup is one in which you have a wider wheel than stock and a low offset. Running a 10.5 all around is not a good idea unless you want to do some bigger fender mods other than just rolling. A 10.5 in the rear is more common and easier to do because the fender flare is a bit bigger back there and can fit a wider wheel more easily.

Your best bet is to either do 9.5 front and 10.5 rear OR just do 9.5 all around. +22 is the lowest I would go with either setup though.

Italiano

Told him that already ^^^He seems to ignore all my posts....

Steven Bell

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I'm thinking the Rota's....

Otacon

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The first one gets my vote. Every dumbass in the world has out the second and third on their cars. Ugly as shit.

TimothyChooo

so i dont think ill be doing the mesh or the rotas. I think it has come to the ES3 Or the ES2


Thoughts?

TimothyChooo

And what is tire stretching?

Italiano

Those in 19's will be nice

The Machine

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Tire stretching is using a smaller width tire and putting it on a wider wheel in order to decrease the chances of rubbing.

Here is an example of a non-stretched setup a 245/40/18 on 9.5" rim.

Notice that the tire basically sits flush with the rim lip?


Now here is a stretched setup. 215/40/18 on 9.5" rim
Notice how the tire is stretched and doesn't sit flush with the lip of the rim? This is done for clearance when a car is going to be lowered a good amount, you are running a wide rim, and a low offset. This is also done to decrease your chances of rubbing, on top of adding camber and rolling the fenders.

Italiano

Holy stretch...^^^^

The Machine

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Yeah that stretch is a good amount, but I had to use that pic for a good example. Funny, I'm going to be doing a 215/40 on a 9.5" rim, but the tires I'm using stretch way better than those and the stretch looks just fine. Here is an exact setup like that, just a different rim.

Predatorbird

Just to throw some other nice looking wheels into the mix that no other TL's will have, look up the ES6 and ES7 coming soon...

TimothyChooo

So if i get a 18x9.5 with a +22 offset what is the stretching measurement or conversion?

And also does this reduce camber wear on tires?

Italiano

ebelp

19" ES2's get my vote. I love those wheels.

The Machine

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There really is no conversion per say. It's basically how much you are comfortable with and how much you may need. I would say that the typical stretch for a 9.5" rim is a 225/40.

Stretching tires does not reduce camber wear. What reduces camber wear is not running a ton of negative camber. An even bigger factor and most important factor in not having tires wear down to quickly is toe. You must have the toe set at 0 or as close to 0 as humanly possible. Having the toe too far from 0 will chew through your tires 10x faster than running negative camber ever will.

ArthurL

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I think all the VarrStoens are pretty nice.. they just came out with new styles. Check em out. I believe they're the ES6 and ES7.

TimothyChooo

and also becuase im so indecisive what do you guys think about concave wheels. like XXR 527?