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Old 09-30-2005, 08:05 PM
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Velfarre, Lokius, Mugen......alignment question

Hey guys, did a search and was able to find a little but not much which is why I'm asking you guys or anyone else with a Tein S tech spring and rear ingalls/spc camber kit what camber and toe specs are you following. Mugen and Loki, we're all riding 19's so really interested in hearing your takes...

Scenario:
I just installed the ingalls camber kit since the toe-in absolutely raped my rear set of Nittos while waiting for the springs to settle. With the 2 control arms per each wheel that comes with the kit, both toe and camber can be adjusted.

Took the car in today to Firestone for alignment on the Hunter machine only to find out that they only have specs up to 2003 and for some reason, they input the specs for the non-type S (geesh). Not a huge problem though since I went ahead and got the lifetime alignment and can bring it in again as many times needed. Unfortunately, still some sway in the rear (i've got the comptech rsb installed fyi)probably because they were following specs for a non-type S 2003 TL.

If you guys still have printouts of your alignments, could you help a brotha' out and let me know what SPECIFIED RANGES your alignment guys followed and what your ACTUAL VALUES are for the following? If anything, just provide the rear info:

Front Camber Specified Range = xxxxx
Your Actual Camber (left or right front) = xxxxxx
Front Toe Specified Range = xxxxxx
Your Actual Toe (left or right front) = xxxxxx

Rear Camber Specified Range = xxxxx
Your Actual Camber (left or right rear) = xxxxxx
Rear Toe Specified Range = xxxxxx
Your Actual Toe (left or right rear) = xxxxxx

To give you an idea of what they were following, I believe these are the ranges for the TL-P (keep in mind non-type S and no suspension drop):
Rear Camber = -1.0 to 0.0
Rear Toe = 0.00 to 0.16

Thanks guys.
Old 09-30-2005, 09:35 PM
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Here's what I have from Sears' database for 04-05 TL. Left and right are the same.
Front
Camber: -1.0 to 0.0
Caster: 2.5 to 4.0
Toe: -.08 to .08

Cross Camber: -.8 to .8
Cross Caster: -.8 to .8
Total Toe: -.16 to .16

Rear:
Camber: -1.5 to -.5
Toe: 0 to .16

Cross Camber -.8 to .8
Total Toe: 0 to .31

You don't need a camber kit to adjust toe, because toe is adjustable. I don't have camber kit and my toes are all within spec. Car is about 1.2"/1" lower.
Old 09-30-2005, 10:08 PM
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Thought this would be much easier than to type it all out. Luckily for me i came in soon after they updated their specs to 2005

Old 09-30-2005, 10:11 PM
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I dont have the exact numbers in front of me, once I get my car, I will give you all my #'s. I have front and rear camber for the car.
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I am going to have eibach pro springs installed next week on my stock (as far as suspension and wheels) TL.

Will I need a camber kit? Will I need a fresh alignment? Will that be included when they install the springs do you think?
Old 10-01-2005, 03:26 AM
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I set my camber to -.5 on both Left Rear and Right Rear.

Toe, I left in a little bit.. i forgot the setting. and caster i'm not too sure.
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Originally Posted by tzakiel
I am going to have eibach pro springs installed next week on my stock (as far as suspension and wheels) TL.

Will I need a camber kit? Will I need a fresh alignment? Will that be included when they install the springs do you think?

You will need aan alignment but you don't need a camber kit.
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Thanks guys for posting the numbers. If you ever make it to san francisco, club entrance and drinks are on me!

Hey 260, your car btw is hotness with those volks.
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sounds good special, im thinking going up there or vegas, which club?
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Thanks, special-ed
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