ricgrrarrow

it's clear that everyone says the MXM4's are crap. they're over rated. just go with some new rubber, i think you'll like the result

acuraman211

i would try and have your teins adjusted to its softest settings and report back... sounds like they are too stiff, giving it the floating effect. Tires play a big roll in comf0rt as far as straight and curvy roads..... so getting softer, gripier, wider tires will help alot and also making sure the tire pressure is set correctly at cold temps(36F and 34R).

JDM5lugHatch

My suggestion is to pick up a set of Falken FK 452's from edgeracing.com and to have your alignment set to -1.5 camber 0 toe in the front and -1.0 camber 0 toe in the rear. That should make for a fun daily driver.

dragonlord

Obviously no one knows the real answer, so I will give it to you-


IT'S THE PAINT! Everyone knows that WDP cannot stay with the NBP! It must be hard going from the best to ...


NBP- FTMFW!




J/K! Get either the Goodyear F1's or the BFG Sport A/S!

djbonsu

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ASOLUTELY HILARIOUS!!.....but yea, i agree with most folk.....change the rubber!

djbonsu

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ok but doesnt the FLOATY feel or action results from too soft of a suspension or am i thinkin about this wrong?

acuraman211

If by floaty he means "cadillac suspension" type floaty... then yes, you are right about it being too soft.

but if you mean floaty like it steered and feels like a boat, then there is no oscillation in the suspension, therefore you will need to soften up the dampers.

jokerunm

It could also mean weak sidewalls. He could try raising the tire pressure and see if it makes a difference.

minkl81

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by reading op's post he seems to want something that ride smoother and F1 AS is not one of them. F1 AS responds to road imperfections too much. i'm not saying they are bad tires, they do grip really nice on wet/dry roads but it just don't fit roads where i live. i tried several different tire pressure setup too (from 36~45psi) but they still overreacts to road imperfections and car becomes jiggly.

also i did read all the ratings and tests done by various magazines and that's why i forked out $700 for these tires but simply its not for area with bunch of dips, potholes, rough surface, etc...

BLACKURA_NY

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its not even so much the "smoother"

its just the car is always wiggling on the parkway... it doesnt feel solid, planted or grippy....
i wouldnt mind the smoother tire... but what i really want is a sticky, wide, planted tire.. i dont care about road noise too much.... road imperfections are definitely around in my area (ny) but i can live with that... as long as it makes the car more "planted" then these MXM4s

don5504

I had the Goodyear GS-D3's they came stock on my VW GLI. Only problem is they are prone to sidewall bulges so avoid potholes, though I'm sure you already do.

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jeff442

I agree with everyone that has recommended trying another A-ziner's type S (stock) before jumping to conclusions.

jokerunm

Jump to conclusions dude.....you need new tires!

AirJordan23922

Toyo TR1... mad $$$ but worth it in my opinion

ASASN21

I had Nitto NT555s on my Mazda and I was quite happy with those. When I get new rims i'll be getting them again.

Tripnbeats

I hate the miche's!!! im running on the pirelli pzeros on the ronjon legends.....they havent even worn down as much as I thought they wouldve with 10k on em....... sick for the NY weather they stick to the ground like its dry when its raining and stick to the ground like glue when its dry.

twigglius

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T1-R's are pretty good and not terribly expensive. I have had mine for quiet some time and thet aye getting loud. I'm about to pull the trigger on some Yokohama S Drives!

bruincaster

hey blackura! first id like to say i thought it was only me. i been to the dealership 2x to ask them to check out my power steering.

one thing i noticed is the steering wheel is super stiff and super sensitive, ANY hand movement translates to the car drifting to the left or right lanes. of course this is more noticeable at high speeds. and especially when u hit a pothole or debris.

another thing is the stock wheels we have are like bulgy when we get them filled to 35/32. they like to bubble so you are really riding on the center tread. i noticed this when my front tires dropped to 28 psi and after i refilled them to 36ish, they were all over the road.

bruincaster

i was also wondering what tires did you run on ur previous NBP? do you have any pics? i thought i remembered you were running some nice looking ones, but i cant find them.

Tripnbeats

hmmmm i dunno i like to keep mine at 36 all around....feels fine. but then again ive had my rack changed 4 times..... the last time they did it they put a type s rack in because they were getting corroded refurb racks in at the dealer....then honda got involved.

donc

I put PA2's on mine and it made a hugh difference - like it's on rails.

BLACKURA_NY

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Well, i just ordered my wheels. so ill be getting new tires next week.

Looks like its gonna end up being Falken FK452 245/30/20 & 255/30/20... im gonna have to rollllllll my fenders

Ill keep you all posted... if this doesnt fix it, im gonna be pissed. i have a feeling its the tires, but only one way to find out.

JT22

i bet you got the devotions haha

dr_brains510

devotions only have a 3" lip (from what I read at ronjonwheels.com)....what rims have a 4" lip??? axis pentas??

I hate cars

I had about the same problem. My car felt floaty, even with the Konis full firm. To clarify, it rode firm, but seemed to have a lot of sway. It was all over the road, probably made me look like a drunk. I was about to give up, tried the usual things like air pressure, inspecting suspension bushings and components, two alignments. Then, on my third alignment the car drove like it should again. The last alignment showed my front and rear right toe was off nearly two degrees which is huge.


To the OP, I would go for another alignment from a low volume specialty shop, not a high volume place like Sears. The alignment that finally fixed mine was $120 and I was on a two month waiting list but it was totally worth it. I don't know what's involved with aligning these cars but it must be touchier than normal. Plus, with our semi-stiff suspension and low profile tires, alignments, especially bad alignment have a big impact.

There were three 3rd gens at the alignment shop when I brought mine in and this place does mostly domestic race cars.

Aman

you could get 10's in the rear and whenever anyone gives you shit for staggered on a FWD, say its for "stability"

did you have any audio add-ons on your blackura in the trunk?

my guess is that maybe (small chance, i know) the extra weight in the trunk kept the tires down.

and apparently the Michelins are bad, but are they really worse than the 06 stick tires?

BLACKURA_NY

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^^ Same stereo from the Blackura is in the type S.

BLACKURA_NY

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im gonna have to keep it on the hush until they are ready (painting, mounting, rolling fenders)

but i will tell you all, these rims were discontinued almost 3 years ago. and i found a brand new set

they'll be on the car by HIN Nightshift NY (6/21)

BLACKURA_NY

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nokiaboy808

try dropping your car down to the max your teins would go before you rub if you can, then you would have very little body roll and also be able to hang turns way better. idk? it works for me...

Tripnbeats

pirelli pzerosssssssss

I hate cars

The only thing true about that statement is you will have less bodyroll. You will also be running on the bumpstops and have little to no suspension compliance. It will not take turns better, it will only feel like it takes turns better due to less roll. Hit a bump mid corner on a hard corner and see how much you like that setting.

korrupted

Nice deep dish.
No other clues?
Hmmm, Racing Harts?

omnuts

I guess I will have attend to find out...probably no pics until HIN NY is over..

nokiaboy808

well he did say the body roll is whats killing is cars ride..
i drop my car to where it doesnt rub the fenders and it rides fine hanging turns with bumps in the road or not. the shocks might work less but its a give or take if you dont want that body roll.

XxAfG786xX

my car sorty feels da same, but im running on stock tires/wheels and stock shocks with tein s.techs.....

I hate cars

It's an alignment issue. Dropping the car does nothing but make you think it corners better. Less bodyroll doesn't make if a better cornering car.

jumbosizeme79

because its a fwd car, lol

nokiaboy808

thats funny cause when ever i slam my car's i can hang on/off ramp turns like a champ till where the rear slides out and my front tires gripping almost like im drifting with FWD.. if it was stock, id spin out. so yes it does help!

TL1999

its them damn tires so go and get you some new tires