Please help! Rear rims won't fit
#1
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Please help! Rear rims won't fit
So im test fitting SSR Vienna zweels 19x9.5 +15 215/35/19 & 19x10 +10 225/35/19
The front fits
But might need to be a little lower to camber it more since I have no front camber kit, but the back wont even be able to lower it all the way down to where I want it.
My rear fenders were rolled, but not to make it SUPER flat. I can re roll it to make it better. I am running stock camber in the rear (Not sure the specs on stock camber lost my alignment paper) I think it will need more camber to push the wheel in more.
If anyone has any suggestions please let me know!
This is the part that is going to hit if I lower it more (Rear fender)
For the rear wheel test fit I didnt drop it all the way down off the jack since it was too close to the fender didnt want to mess anything up.
Front tires I would like to have more meat on them, but will they fit after if i got different tires?
Thanks!!!
The front fits
But might need to be a little lower to camber it more since I have no front camber kit, but the back wont even be able to lower it all the way down to where I want it.
My rear fenders were rolled, but not to make it SUPER flat. I can re roll it to make it better. I am running stock camber in the rear (Not sure the specs on stock camber lost my alignment paper) I think it will need more camber to push the wheel in more.
If anyone has any suggestions please let me know!
This is the part that is going to hit if I lower it more (Rear fender)
For the rear wheel test fit I didnt drop it all the way down off the jack since it was too close to the fender didnt want to mess anything up.
Front tires I would like to have more meat on them, but will they fit after if i got different tires?
Thanks!!!
#2
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Hey bro look yea your gonna need a pull your rear fender a lot not just roll them, I'm running 19X10.5 +12 and I'm also running 225/35/19 so its a pretty good stretch. I still wanna go more low but I'm only rub with I have someone in the backseat because I already have my sub in the trunk.
There a couple of option you have tho:
1.) Pull fender it help (recommend)
2.) Get stiffer springs for your coilovers so if doesn't bounces as much
3.) Cut your fender and remold it (maybe flare it but hard to do and make sure you make it flow with your car body or it will look dump)
4.) Run more stretch tire 215/40/19 maybe lol (I dunno about that it's possible tho but I don't recommend it)
Help that helps bro
There a couple of option you have tho:
1.) Pull fender it help (recommend)
2.) Get stiffer springs for your coilovers so if doesn't bounces as much
3.) Cut your fender and remold it (maybe flare it but hard to do and make sure you make it flow with your car body or it will look dump)
4.) Run more stretch tire 215/40/19 maybe lol (I dunno about that it's possible tho but I don't recommend it)
Help that helps bro
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teeeejaay (06-18-2013)
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My car look before: 235/35/19 no fender work
Fender roll and slightly pull 235/35/19
Finally after: I pull a bit more running 225/35/19 accelerate tires and went like a 1/2 inch lower but I STILL WANT MOAR LOW!!!
Now only issue is that I need is stiffer spring for my coilovers because if I hit a hard dip my rear fenders hits between my tire and rim gap that it has from the stretch XD. But I wanna go air ride so that my only excuse I haven't gotten stiffer springs lol.
Fender roll and slightly pull 235/35/19
Finally after: I pull a bit more running 225/35/19 accelerate tires and went like a 1/2 inch lower but I STILL WANT MOAR LOW!!!
Now only issue is that I need is stiffer spring for my coilovers because if I hit a hard dip my rear fenders hits between my tire and rim gap that it has from the stretch XD. But I wanna go air ride so that my only excuse I haven't gotten stiffer springs lol.
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get rims that fit
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#6
U only have a couple options, with one being to roll and pull your fenders, or u can get wheels that are a little less aggressive. If its not your daily driver, then take some time to research other members who have similar set ups and see what's necessary to pull it off.
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teeeejaay (06-18-2013)
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Dude you are almost there..Get an Ingalls rear camber kit for about $150 from Heeltoe Automotive...Use coupon acurazine rocks..Kick camber out 3degrees and you should clear...No need to fuck up your fenders by cutting etc...P.S, roll those rear fenders better too..Will help a lot...
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Hey bro look yea your gonna need a pull your rear fender a lot not just roll them, I'm running 19X10.5 +12 and I'm also running 225/35/19 so its a pretty good stretch. I still wanna go more low but I'm only rub with I have someone in the backseat because I already have my sub in the trunk.
There a couple of option you have tho:
1.) Pull fender it help (recommend)
2.) Get stiffer springs for your coilovers so if doesn't bounces as much
3.) Cut your fender and remold it (maybe flare it but hard to do and make sure you make it flow with your car body or it will look dump)
4.) Run more stretch tire 215/40/19 maybe lol (I dunno about that it's possible tho but I don't recommend it)
Help that helps bro
There a couple of option you have tho:
1.) Pull fender it help (recommend)
2.) Get stiffer springs for your coilovers so if doesn't bounces as much
3.) Cut your fender and remold it (maybe flare it but hard to do and make sure you make it flow with your car body or it will look dump)
4.) Run more stretch tire 215/40/19 maybe lol (I dunno about that it's possible tho but I don't recommend it)
Help that helps bro
My car look before: 235/35/19 no fender work
Fender roll and slightly pull 235/35/19
Finally after: I pull a bit more running 225/35/19 accelerate tires and went like a 1/2 inch lower but I STILL WANT MOAR LOW!!!
Now only issue is that I need is stiffer spring for my coilovers because if I hit a hard dip my rear fenders hits between my tire and rim gap that it has from the stretch XD. But I wanna go air ride so that my only excuse I haven't gotten stiffer springs lol.
Fender roll and slightly pull 235/35/19
Finally after: I pull a bit more running 225/35/19 accelerate tires and went like a 1/2 inch lower but I STILL WANT MOAR LOW!!!
Now only issue is that I need is stiffer spring for my coilovers because if I hit a hard dip my rear fenders hits between my tire and rim gap that it has from the stretch XD. But I wanna go air ride so that my only excuse I haven't gotten stiffer springs lol.
...that would definitely help... But I'm getting a deal on these so want to try and make them fit. I could go with a smaller side rear rim, but I'm going for that wide ass look
Dude you are almost there..Get an Ingalls rear camber kit for about $150 from Heeltoe Automotive...Use coupon acurazine rocks..Kick camber out 3degrees and you should clear...No need to fuck up your fenders by cutting etc...P.S, roll those rear fenders better too..Will help a lot...
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Do you want to drive this car or just look at it?
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Use sick speed camber kits. They adjust camber from the top arm and can give you more camber.
Might help a little. I know a guy that has a wide ass rear wheel and he used sick speed to get -6* camber on rear and used the ingalls arm for toe only.
Might help a little. I know a guy that has a wide ass rear wheel and he used sick speed to get -6* camber on rear and used the ingalls arm for toe only.
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Dude you are almost there..Get an Ingalls rear camber kit for about $150 from Heeltoe Automotive...Use coupon acurazine rocks..Kick camber out 3degrees and you should clear...No need to fuck up your fenders by cutting etc...P.S, roll those rear fenders better too..Will help a lot...
All you need is a rear camber kit, run more negative camber, and you're good to go.
SPC or Ingalls is fine. Both work
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teeeejaay (06-21-2013)
#18
Suzuka Master
Didnt you say you were test fitting these wheels? I would say its a fail. why cripple your car? time to move on
#23
Suzuka Master
Its not very difficult to make this setup work. Its called extensive body and fender work. If your not willing to do that then get some different rims. The idea of stretching a tire that is way to narrow for the rim and then running extreme camber along with springs that are so stiff you have no suspension travel may in your mind be "making it work" but it is actually the extreme opposite. but wow does it look badass!
#25
Suzuka Master
Silly comments? more like accurate observations. Silly is asking how to make the wheel fit! It is completely obvious what needs to be done.
#27
Suzuka Master
I am trying to illustrate the point that form should follow function. And there is a reason for that. Its obvious what needs to be done to make them "fit". There is no real reason to make a thread to ask how other than you want answers.
There is no magic wand, or secret chant. I provided accurate answers and observations to help him decide if these wheels he is "test fitting" should be utilized and perhaps just what he will be sacrificing to achieve that. Seems like valuable information to me. If you dont like it you do not have to read it or respond to it.
There is no magic wand, or secret chant. I provided accurate answers and observations to help him decide if these wheels he is "test fitting" should be utilized and perhaps just what he will be sacrificing to achieve that. Seems like valuable information to me. If you dont like it you do not have to read it or respond to it.
#28
Three Wheelin'
I am trying to illustrate the point that form should follow function. And there is a reason for that. Its obvious what needs to be done to make them "fit". There is no real reason to make a thread to ask how other than you want answers.
There is no magic wand, or secret chant. I provided accurate answers and observations to help him decide if these wheels he is "test fitting" should be utilized and perhaps just what he will be sacrificing to achieve that. Seems like valuable information to me. If you dont like it you do not have to read it or respond to it.
There is no magic wand, or secret chant. I provided accurate answers and observations to help him decide if these wheels he is "test fitting" should be utilized and perhaps just what he will be sacrificing to achieve that. Seems like valuable information to me. If you dont like it you do not have to read it or respond to it.
OP already knows these wheels are not made to fit this vehicle nor should you put a 225 tire on a wheel made for 255+. Its straight safety!
Proper response: Cut the quarter lip off or pull quarters to fit wheel, do 2-5k worth of body work to fix/flare the quarters you have now ruined. Once complete fit proper sized tires for the wheels you bought and set the alignmnet to proper spec so you dont chew tires and look like your car is broken. Lastly, bask in all the glory of spending all that money to fit a large wheel on the rear of a front wheel drive car.
#29
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Honestly you and your dumb comments, no one asked you to input your stupid remarks. You obviously dont have the look i want on YOUR car, looks pretty stock to me by your avi. So please dont even bother wasting time on my thread. You really havent seen or done a "stanced" look
Whos crippling the car? the car will still function? U make like im going to have a dump truck smash a trash can on my fenders and then BAM done?!
Ya -6 sounds like what I need or close to it
You must not like stretched tires. Sorry the stock look you guys like is not what im going for.
Thanks for the input, yea these old dudes must not like stance or stretch tires.
It looks badass, trust me. I dont want my car looking ANYTHING like yours so please keep your comments to yourself As you can see my pic im SLAMMED... pretty low already, and im good at driving this low so just stick to your stock springs please and let me fit these wheels on.
OP already knows these wheels are not made to fit this vehicle nor should you put a 225 tire on a wheel made for 255+. Its straight safety!
Proper response: Cut the quarter lip off or pull quarters to fit wheel, do 2-5k worth of body work to fix/flare the quarters you have now ruined. Once complete fit proper sized tires for the wheels you bought and set the alignmnet to proper spec so you dont chew tires and look like your car is broken. Lastly, bask in all the glory of spending all that money to fit a large wheel on the rear of a front wheel drive car.
I actually have friends locally which are big name shops in hawaii, and they wont even charge me 1k... SO idk where the 2k-5k came from but that i would NEVER do if it costed that much.
Thanks for all your guys opinions, but most of them could have been kept to yourselfs
If he wants to completely sacrifice the ability of his car to actually drive to achieve some notion that it looks really cool when parked then thats great! Darwin has proved that its beneficial to all to have that type of thinking by some.
Its not very difficult to make this setup work. Its called extensive body and fender work. If your not willing to do that then get some different rims. The idea of stretching a tire that is way to narrow for the rim and then running extreme camber along with springs that are so stiff you have no suspension travel may in your mind be "making it work" but it is actually the extreme opposite. but wow does it look badass!
Its not very difficult to make this setup work. Its called extensive body and fender work. If your not willing to do that then get some different rims. The idea of stretching a tire that is way to narrow for the rim and then running extreme camber along with springs that are so stiff you have no suspension travel may in your mind be "making it work" but it is actually the extreme opposite. but wow does it look badass!
OP already knows these wheels are not made to fit this vehicle nor should you put a 225 tire on a wheel made for 255+. Its straight safety!
Proper response: Cut the quarter lip off or pull quarters to fit wheel, do 2-5k worth of body work to fix/flare the quarters you have now ruined. Once complete fit proper sized tires for the wheels you bought and set the alignmnet to proper spec so you dont chew tires and look like your car is broken. Lastly, bask in all the glory of spending all that money to fit a large wheel on the rear of a front wheel drive car.
Thanks for all your guys opinions, but most of them could have been kept to yourselfs
#30
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Acurazine has some STANCE haters!!! Do you guys not know what "Stancenation" "canibeat" and those companies are? Not seen their cars lately? No one is back in the 2006 time, where NO stretch on tires, NO tucking tires, NO tucking rims, NO camber... BOOOOOOORIINGGGGG
Im not a old man so I wont need to be driving like one. And im not a dumb kid that drives stupid. I love my TL and i take care of it more them MOST people on here. Wash and wax my car like 2 times a week, Buff and polish if i get swirl marks... Do all the maintenance that is required, do oil change on 3k on the dot
My question was for help fitting the wheel, i didnt ask: "Hey can people doubt me and down talk on my SSR's "
But thanks for the input everyone that actually was trying to help.
Im not a old man so I wont need to be driving like one. And im not a dumb kid that drives stupid. I love my TL and i take care of it more them MOST people on here. Wash and wax my car like 2 times a week, Buff and polish if i get swirl marks... Do all the maintenance that is required, do oil change on 3k on the dot
My question was for help fitting the wheel, i didnt ask: "Hey can people doubt me and down talk on my SSR's "
But thanks for the input everyone that actually was trying to help.
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#31
Suzuka Master
Well if you didnt know what it would take by just the test mounting then you need some serious help. Its completely obvious! fender work and negative camber! Why ask the question. If your after mexi-poke mexi-stretch go for it. Been done foerever, maybe its just gotten to the island. Dont get me wrong, I appreciate the look for a show car. But you will be a young guy driving like an old man because thats the only way you will be able to drive that setup. dont even get me goin on the staggered setup on your FWD! cheers
#32
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Well if you didnt know what it would take by just the test mounting then you need some serious help. Its completely obvious! fender work and negative camber! Why ask the question. If your after mexi-poke mexi-stretch go for it. Been done foerever, maybe its just gotten to the island. Dont get me wrong, I appreciate the look for a show car. But you will be a young guy driving like an old man because thats the only way you will be able to drive that setup. dont even get me goin on the staggered setup on your FWD! cheers
No stance has been around the "islands", so i take it your one of the people that think we live in grass shacks and walk to school with no roads?
you can get going on what ever you want man, at the end of the day its my car so what u say doesnt affect me.
I came to make a thread to ask for peoples help, you on the other hand just wanted to make dumb comments off the bat, to get more "posts per day" and jump in on everyones threads. Should have just said your opinion, no I dont think this will work/fit properly.. something along that line. But you wanted to put your If you dont like it, thats not your style...then fine thats totally ok. But when you start dissing on peoples rides... thats when you keep it to yourself
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dont mind the stance haters. i hear it all the time and my current setup isnt even aggressive at all. people are going to give their two cents no matter what and most of the old school guys dont even know that stretching tires actually came from the old muscle car days (my dad learned me on that one lol) just ignore it and do what you wanna do. I flame on idiots that put dumb looking shit on their cars but stance is a preference for sure and if you like it do it. I love the rims and that will look boss once you get them dialed in
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#34
Suzuka Master
they are 5 x 4.5 they fit. There have been people running more aggressive offsets than this so it can be done. Some that really looked awesome. But those were the ones with extensive fenderwork, not running at -6*. I think your avatar looks great.
I think it depends on how much your willing to do to your fenders. If you want to run a correct tire at the correct geometry it will be significant. If your content to squeeze it in....to run -6* super stretched with a roll and still rub then thats great! it is your car.
I have completed a couple commercial projects in your city. I know your environment. And it is a bit curious in your situation. your roads really dont allow what most people really compliment the TL for. Its a cruiser, a freeway queen, fun for a 4dr in the twisties, but more at home on a long comfortable freeway cruise. Perhaps in Hawaii without that ability thats why the "stanced" look is prevalent. not prevalent, but acceptable?
I think it depends on how much your willing to do to your fenders. If you want to run a correct tire at the correct geometry it will be significant. If your content to squeeze it in....to run -6* super stretched with a roll and still rub then thats great! it is your car.
I have completed a couple commercial projects in your city. I know your environment. And it is a bit curious in your situation. your roads really dont allow what most people really compliment the TL for. Its a cruiser, a freeway queen, fun for a 4dr in the twisties, but more at home on a long comfortable freeway cruise. Perhaps in Hawaii without that ability thats why the "stanced" look is prevalent. not prevalent, but acceptable?
Last edited by pohljm; 06-21-2013 at 07:11 PM.
#37
i like the wheels, i thought about grabbing a set but i have always like 5 spoke wheels so i stuck with that. I'd say more camber and a small pull will work. I wish we could fit wider wheels on our cars just because i think having lip is nice but to each his own.
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