blacktsx05

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so after 5 months of my car being in the body shop and 3 months of looking at my work vsxx so today i finally had time to get them on and they wont go on. i got 10mm spacers and it just clears the brembo (is that safe)...and now my problem is i can get the lug nuts to thread on so im wondering if i should get the bolt on spacer kit or run extended studs? my rears went on fine and i think im not gonna run a spacer on the rear because if i do the lugs wont thread on. anyways i know if i get extended studs i gotta get them pressed in but i also heard from a friend that if i get the bolt on spacer kit i would need to get that pressed on too as well? can anyone confirm that for me and let me know whats the best way for me to get my front wheels on. thanks

this was the spacer kit i planned on getting

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KICS-...Q5fAccessories

AMUA6

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anything about wheel spacers but I'll chime in..

Looks to me with the spacers in that link, your stock studs will have to be shortened. I figure if you have to remove the hub to have the studs shortened, why not go ahead and have new longer ones pressed in? That way there is no worry on the spacers failing. I've heard that a 5mm spacer is the most you want to run on our cars without extending studs etc, sounds to me like the offset of your wheels is wrong. There is a thread somewhere about the right offset to buy for wheels to clear the brembos.

I'll let others chime-in on this, hopefully I helped a little

Edit:https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-tires-wheels-suspension-97/lowest-offset-widest-rim-width-08-type-s-781453/

princelybug

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Sorry to hear this. Questions:

1. What in the world was happening to your car for 5 months in the body shop?
2. Why didn't you get the proper offset on your wheels so that spacers wouldn't be needed?

Jackass

Studs pressed in? Are these cars different than other cars? I have always just used a BFH to beat them out then use a large washer and a crap lug to pull them back through.

AMUA6

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Never heard of this method.. seems like it'd work though. Although I can't comprehend how you pull them back through?

libert69

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yes that will work but if you over-torque the lugs (using a air gun) the studs may lose their bite and start to spin. Then your really screwed

I used the washer method to pull my studs through but now I always tighten my lugs with a torque wrench

blacktsx05

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1. 4 months dealing with the insurance company and a month to get the car fixed (made out really good enough to fix the car and to pay off half the loan lol)

2. wheels were bought used from off a member who had them on a 04 TL

blacktsx05

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damn thats work shortening the studs so i might as well get extened pressed in right? the offset on the wheels are +45..i bought the wheels used from a guy who had them on a 04 TL without brembos

myron

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why would you have to get them shortened? Do the wheels have holes on the mounting surface of the wheel (like stock wheels do)? if they do then you don't have to shorten anything and can just get spacers with pressed in studs.

-MiG-

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wait wait hold on, is the stud too long or too short?? if its too short your stucK! i JUST replaced my stud, look how short it is, you can "pull" this out..



u can definitely not "beat it and pull it out"

AMUA6

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^^^

How about some pics of the back of the wheels OP?

JMillerUA6

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I'm also confused as to why you would need to shorten the studs....

OP you have two choices......

1) Buy longer lug studs.
2) Buy spacers with the studs already pressed in... eg: Ichiba V2's

Jackass

I don't use an air gun, just a 4-way and do it all by hand. I have replaced many broken or cross-threaded studs on various cars over the years with this method. The tricky part is trying to get the stud pulled all the way back through and being sure it is all the way through. I usually end up putting the rims back on, tighten the lugs, drive it around the block, check the lugs, and repeat a few times to make sure everything is good and tight.

blacktsx05

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yooo jmill im leaning towards the spacers with studs in them already because i dont want to run open end lugs during the winter time because my stockies can get jacked. but im wondering how that spacer will work? when the new 10mm spacer goes on over the stock studs will the but that holds it on cause any interference with the studs being too long...do you understand what im saying?

blacktsx05

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ok going to do that now lol

blacktsx05

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so once i bolt on the new spacer kit whatever from the factory studs is sticking out will go into the triangular holes in the back of the wheel?

also with the 10mm spacer there isnt that much room between the wheel and the caliper maybe i can stick a credit card or two in between there..so can bump the spacer up to 12mm for more clearance?

also i heard that the icihiba v2's are car specific because they have built in hubrings so where can i get this spacer kit?

shadowkahn

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Seems to me that if your 07 was actually being worked on for an entire month, the only way to say you "made out good" is if they bought you a new TL, because if it took that much work to get the car road worthy again, it probably should've been totaled.

murph145

yes the triangle part in the back of the rims is where the existing lugs will fit once you add a spacer.

I would go with a 12mm spacer then 1 or 2 CC clearance is close.

You have to find out what the center bore of the rim is and get one to fit that and that goes over the TL's hub which i think is 64.1mm if those rims came off of a TL then why dont they already fit? Looking at the picture of the back of your rim it looks like the yellow ring part in the hub center is the hubcentric ring for that rim... now when you get the spacers they make them now hubcentric... most rim manufacturers make rims with a larger hub hole and we just add the plastic hubcentric rings to fit the car we have that way rim makers done have to make a specific rim for each car... do a search on hubcentric spacers that is basically what you need

I hate cars

Longer studs> bolt on spacers any day of the week. Order a nice set from ARP and be done.

I have long studs that stick out 1" past the lug nut (a track requirement). If they're a little too long, there are tons of open ended lugnuts made for that. This is one area you don't want to screw up on.

-MiG-

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The rims offset is +45, i would go with a 15-20mm spacer, lol, but to each its own.

blacktsx05

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well it only took two weeks for everything because the guy who worked on the car went on vacation for 2 weeks. i got a little over $20k for the accident and it only cost $8500 to fix the car so pocketing almost $12k in my mind is making out good i paid off half the car with that money. maybe you dont realize it but when the passenger air bag goes off you need to replace the whole dash. everything had to be taking apart and then put back together also the car needed a alignment and the a/c had to get recharge becuase they replaced the condenser. most ppl will agree with me that making almost $12 is making out good

blacktsx05

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if i run open end lugs i cant have locking lugs on my factory wheels during the winter and i dont want my wheels to get jacked

blacktsx05

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those wheels came of a 04 TL without brembos..these wheels are going on a 07 TL-S. in the pic it looks like it had hub rings but thats just the color of the wheels.

blacktsx05

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im ordering the ichiba v2's tomorrow in 15mm

stillhere153

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the only spacers I'd run
http://www.motorsport-tech.com/wheel_adapters.html

you should be able to get a 19mm spacer behind that wheel... and be golden

blacktsx05

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damn i just check and $341 for spacers..and the smallest they have is 19mm

blacktsx05

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update my spacers came in the other day but now im stuck and cant decide if i wanna put the wheels on now or wait till after my coilovers get installed so it doesnt look weird..