Lowered 2007 Base TL
#2
Instructor
Looks very good! I normally don't care for silver TL's, but you sir did it right. Simple, clean, and still maintained an OEM look. Also them A spec wheels look amazing on silver. The only thing I would have done differently is a 20mm spacer in the rear instead of 15mm.
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#8
Intermediate
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I would love the TL-S lights, the rears don't work well with the car imo.
As far as the spacers, after lots of calculation and research my findings were that there is misinformation on the net about using 20mm spacers. The TL naturally has more camber in the rear when dropped equally, for this reason people get thicker spacers for the rear to offset that negative camber distance.
If the front is -1.5 camber and the rear is about -2.3 that works out to about 6mm in difference of tire to fender. In the pics my rear camber wasn't corrected to -1.5 yet so once that's done the distance between tire and fender front and back will be identical. I don't like the wheels sticking out too much in the back and i think those who go 20mm in the rear usually don't run a camber kit so it's the only way to get the front/rear looking the same. If they do run a camber kit then the rears will look like they stick out more and I am not a fan of that look.
As far as the spacers, after lots of calculation and research my findings were that there is misinformation on the net about using 20mm spacers. The TL naturally has more camber in the rear when dropped equally, for this reason people get thicker spacers for the rear to offset that negative camber distance.
If the front is -1.5 camber and the rear is about -2.3 that works out to about 6mm in difference of tire to fender. In the pics my rear camber wasn't corrected to -1.5 yet so once that's done the distance between tire and fender front and back will be identical. I don't like the wheels sticking out too much in the back and i think those who go 20mm in the rear usually don't run a camber kit so it's the only way to get the front/rear looking the same. If they do run a camber kit then the rears will look like they stick out more and I am not a fan of that look.
#10
Instructor
I have 20mm spacers in the rear on my type-s wheels and have corrected my camber to -1.0 with SPC control arms. No rubbing. Perfect fitment. BUT, the big question here is what width aspec wheels do you have? 8? or 8.5 width? heres mine for visual reference. 8" width with a 20mm spacer in the rear. (yes i know they are only 17's. And please ignore the mud gaurds. I have since taken them off.)
Last edited by Trav2390; 03-25-2016 at 10:05 AM.
#11
Instructor
OEM and Depo's are 95% identical. The only difference is the chrome bezel. The Depo's have a brighter, more "flashy" chrome. Where as OEM type-s tails have a darker chrome that is a bit more subtle. The picture I just posted above for fitment reference is Depo Type-S tails.
#12
Intermediate
Thread Starter
I have 20mm spacers in the rear on my type-s wheels and have corrected my camber to -1.0 with SPC control arms. No rubbing. Perfect fitment. BUT, the big question here is what width aspec wheels do you have? 8? or 8.5 width? heres mine for visual reference. 8" width with a 20mm spacer in the rear. (yes i know they are only 17's. And please ignore the mud gaurds. I have since taken them off.)
My theory seems to be proving correct based on your pic. Your rear is almost flush with 1/4 panel, your front looks to be a bit more "in" but your wheel also seems slightly turned. Can you confirm if the rear is more outboard than front? I'd expect that, not by much, but it should be if camber is similar and you are using 15mm front and 20mm rear.
I like your tails maybe depo is not a bad choice.
#13
Instructor
Mine are 8"
My theory seems to be proving correct based on your pic. Your rear is almost flush with 1/4 panel, your front looks to be a bit more "in" but your wheel also seems slightly turned. Can you confirm if the rear is more outboard than front? I'd expect that, not by much, but it should be if camber is similar and you are using 15mm front and 20mm rear.
I like your tails maybe depo is not a bad choice.
My theory seems to be proving correct based on your pic. Your rear is almost flush with 1/4 panel, your front looks to be a bit more "in" but your wheel also seems slightly turned. Can you confirm if the rear is more outboard than front? I'd expect that, not by much, but it should be if camber is similar and you are using 15mm front and 20mm rear.
I like your tails maybe depo is not a bad choice.
And you are correct sir. My fronts wheels are a bit more sunken in than the rear wheels because I have not corrected my camber up front. I have only corrected my rear camber. Also the front wheels are straight in the picture, not turned. Up front I'm running natural camber, about -1.8(driver side) and -2.2(passenger). And the rear wheels have both been dialed in to -1.0 camber.
#19
Silver TL is extremely clean.
To me this is how the car should look stock and it looks great.
I wouldnt be able to leave it here. But Id be more than happy to spend a year or two with the car looking like this while I amassed parts.
To me this is how the car should look stock and it looks great.
I wouldnt be able to leave it here. But Id be more than happy to spend a year or two with the car looking like this while I amassed parts.
#20
Racer
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I have 20mm spacers in the rear on my type-s wheels and have corrected my camber to -1.0 with SPC control arms. No rubbing. Perfect fitment. BUT, the big question here is what width aspec wheels do you have? 8? or 8.5 width? heres mine for visual reference. 8" width with a 20mm spacer in the rear. (yes i know they are only 17's. And please ignore the mud gaurds. I have since taken them off.)
#21
Senior Moderator
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Looks great OP!
#23
Former Sponsor
OP, your car is looking fantastic. Love the look.
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