VelfarreClubber

I just saw this on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WD1V

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WD1V

I did not see any shocks for the 04+ TL on their site, do you guys think this is legit? also i found an old thread that had 2 people with konis https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49274

If it really is out im highly considering getting the Racing Springs from H&R, and i'll be purchasing the Sport Springs today! I need some answers asap Thanks

JackSprat01

Bump: I'd love to know this too. We have yellows on the wife's accord...love them..they are the tits.

cM3go

These 2 people are talking about Konis on their 2nd Gen, that thread was accidently copied from the 2nd gen forum.

ndx2

i looked up the part numbers that were listed on the ebay auctions, and they are for TSX. so either the TSX parts fit the TL's, which i highly doubt, or they made a mistake in their listing.

VelfarreClubber

I asked the seller about them and he replied today saying

"I have attached a picture of the listing for these shocks out of the 2005 KONI Catalog.

These shocks are in stock and ready to ship.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

Customer Service,
Mike"

VelfarreClubber

cM3go

If anything, the US Accord is closer to the TL than the TSX... the TL and Accord share the same chassis

g4turbo

Would the application for the Accord work for our car?

Aegir

Here's the Koni catalog. It does show the same part # for TSX and TL. Not all that surprising because they are very similar cars in many regards. The difference is probably in spring rates and damper/height adjustment rather than fitment, and an adjustable shock probably satisfies the required range of adjustments.

http://www.koni-na.com/pdfcatalogs/2005applguide.pdf

VelfarreClubber

Yup its official i got a message from Bob Noack at Koni and the part number is the same as the TSX (werid) but at least it should fit.

Good job w/ the catalog Aegir, I had trouble looking for that thing

g4turbo

Okay so whos going to be the first to try them? How much do they cost for the whole set? I am getting ready to drop my car.

cM3go

Someone be the guinea pig

VelfarreClubber

That will be the next thing i'll do but im no guinea pig!

Lokius

Can i get them to work with my tein s-tech springs, and i would like them for front and rear....

but if it's kind of expensive, you should probably just go with tein coilovers...

260 HP

iTrader: (3)

The Koni should work with any springs.

But yes, the Konis are expensive. If you don't track your car or don't need damping adjustability, you can save money by getting Tein basic c/o.

VelfarreClubber

Crap i just discovered the Tein basic is about $750 w/o shipping, i just looked through the manual and all the notes just freaked me off. Like "The product may not be installed in vehicles driven in public roads" (no biggy) Under Caution "This product has been developed accoriding to the specifications of Japanese law" Please no flames, this is just my personal opinion.

At least i have the peace of mind knowing Konis is an ideal shock and most important it carries a LIFETIME Warrenty so im not gonna compromise with Tein
Koni Shocks 582.40 shipped
H&R Springs 235.00 shipped
Grand total of parts= $817.40

The $67 difference is nothing when it comes to suspension, although the people who bought Tein s-tech springs will save more

260 HP

iTrader: (3)

I paid $630 for my Tein basic from a local shop in LA. I know a vendor on a Honda site (not Acura) is/was doing a group buy, $660 shipped. $750 is MSRP, and as we know, nobody should pay MSRP for anything but the rarest stuff.

I can't say Koni is the ideal shocks for the TL, because apparently Accord and TSX also use the same shocks. Those cars weigh from 3000 lbs to 3500 lbs. That's a wide range of weight that the shocks should work for. It can't be ideal....

On the other hand, Tein made different coilovers for Accord, TSX, and TL.

VelfarreClubber

Well i just had to cancel my order on springs 4-6 week backorder = ( for $630 i might as well get coil overs, apparently i heard Tein carreis a lifetime warrenty as well

AcuraTL2k4

TEINs dont carry a lifetime warranty on coilovers. They will rebuild your shocks once they blow for a price. You will have to send them to there CA office for that.

cM3go

I think Koni half assed it. I have a hard time believing the TSX ones will work on the TL.

TEIN > KONI (in this case)

VelfarreClubber

How often will i need to rebuild shocks? i just browsed through teins site and couldn't find any warrenty info and its a good thing they're located in Downey where i bought my car which is not far away

VelfarreClubber

but how much different can it be?

260 HP

iTrader: (3)

The weight of the cars are so different. The Accord DX 4-cylinder is 3000 lbs, the TL auto is 3600. I'm sure the shocks are the same length and all that, but how do they compensate that much difference in weight?

One more thing, Koni shocks are of the stock length while Tein c/o shocks are shorter. It means, you have more wheel travel with Teins when the car is lowered. More wheel travel means more comfortable ride and more controlled suspension movement.

You know when your car is turning and the suspension bottoms up, the spring rate changes from the spring's rate to infinity and this will upset the chassis. If your car doesn't bottom up so often, the car corner better and more controlled.

Aegir

How do you know the Tein shocks/struts are different? Sure the coilover assemblies are different because the springs are different, but the shocks/struts may very well be the same.

Aegir

If the range of adjustment covers the spring rates that are likely to be encountered in those applications, then what's the problem? No adjustable shock/strut arrives tuned to the application. As the name implies, they have to be adjusted. That applies to both company's products.

260 HP

iTrader: (3)

Because Tein shock assy for TL and Accord do not have the same part numbers. Each shock assy contains the rubber boot, bump stop, spring seat, 2 spring seat locks (which all these share the same part numbers between Accord and TL) and the shock itself.

BTW, I don't have TSX's shock part numbers so I'll compare Accord and TL kits.

Here are the part numbers for Tein Basic c/o and their shock assy for TL and Accord:

TL kit: DSA80-LUSS2
Fr shock assy: DLA80-U2531
Rr shock assy: DLA81-U2531

Accord kit: DSA50-LUSS2
Fr shock assy: DLA50-U2531
Rr shock assy: DLA51-U2531

BTW, the Accord and TL kits both have the same rear springs but different front ones.

cM3go

Different chassis, hence most likely different shocks...

TL = Accord, not TL = TSX

dysd

Is 600 lb range of application really that much of a weight difference? I mean the shocks already compensate between a passenger load of 200lbs for just the driver and 4 adults w/ approx weight of 800 lbs (1200lbs if you live in Texas....hah). I dunno much about suspension so I could just be spouting off idiot remarks.

VelfarreClubber

Bump

Aegir

...or you could be spouting off common sense.

260 HP

iTrader: (3)

VelfarreClubber: I'd email Tein directly about the warranty info. I took a peek into my box yesterday and didn't see it either.

My opinion regarding Koni shocks is just that, my opinion. I generally cannot accept that a company would market a product as a one size fits all, especially something this expensive. It doesn't even work for clothing, let alone suspension parts.

VelfarreClubber

I took another look since i thought about buying the shocks again, since my ride is pretty stiff and sometimes annoying after lowering.

Looks like the Koni yellow shocks is all the same for the 03-05 Accord 04-05 TL and 04-05 TSX. Since the springs i have on my car is the same for the new Accord i doubt there will be any problems installing these shocks.

imo this is a better buy than the Tein Super Street coil overs which cost over a grand. For everyday driving i'd like to keep the shocks as soft as possible and when at the track or something turn the knob to stiffen the ride. I made up my mind to buy a set and will get it installed by the end of summer.

VelfarreClubber

When you turn the knob does it make a click sound? if not how do you adjust all 4 equally? When its at the softest setting is the ride quality about the same as the stock shocks?

cM3go

Where you are buying your Teins from?

You can get them for $875 shipped:

https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/welcome-back-sale-tein-springs-coilovers-308646/

260 HP

iTrader: (3)

The knob just kinda slides. No notches or clicks. You can tell from how much/how far you turn the knob. It's easy.

A lot of Tein dealers in Socal sell the c/o for 15% discount from MSRP. So SS is about $850 or maybe even less.

Your Koni plus Tein springs will cost you about the same yet you don't have the height adjustability like the SS.

VelfarreClubber

For $150 more that is a sweet deal but the most important thing im concerned about is ride quality? if it can make my ride softer than it is now. than im sold

If i get this bartender job for the summer i'll probably buy the SS in no time!

Pure Adrenaline

iTrader: (2)

Who said springs rates are adjustable?

They may not come tuned to YOUR application, but they do come tuned for the vehicle's application, taking the car's weight and other factors into consideration. The adjustability is there so you can fine tune it to your liking, not to tune it to the vehicle's weight.

In other words, whether I leave my Tein SS at 16 or 0, it will still work just fine on my car. But the damping adjustability is there for me to fine tune the system to my preference of stiffness.