JMillerUA6

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Don't worry....I know which arm goes where, how to put the damn things together and how to install them on the car.

My question is, why am I and do I have to install the toe arms? I see no need other than to take up valuable time tomorrow when I already have to install a set of coilovers on a 4G, wire up and install my amp/sub to compensate for that rattling OEM POS that's back there, and adjust my cars ride height back down to where it's supposed to be.

I guess I see no need since you can already adjust the toe from the factory, and I got the kit to do the opposite of what most people use it for and add POSITIVE camber to the inevitable -4-4.3* that I know it's going to be when I lower it back down. I'm doing this because even though my wheels are spaced 15mm all around (18x8.5 +45) the negative camber causes some unsightly wheel gap between the fender and the side wall of the tire (rear only). I have no interest in spacing my wheels any more than they are, so I got the kit to close the gap so-to-speak and add about 2* of positive, maybe a tad more to get my rear setup a bit closer to that flush look. Not HellaFlush...but flush.

Take this B8 S4 for example:



To me this is flush (or close to it). Trying to bring the face of the wheel as close to the edge of the fender as possible with just enough camber to increase performance a tad and and keep it looking almost perpendicular with the road. Though I plan on being lower than this.

This is Hellaflush/Stanced (again, to me).....



No disrespect Adrian. I love the way your car looks now, and I appreciate all the work that went into it. It's just not the look I'm going for.

So.....all that being said, all I needed this "alignment kit" for is the camber adjustment so I can close the gap a bit between sidewall and fender. Are the toe arms necessary?

Thanks!

TheChamp531

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I knew what you were going to ask so I'm not responding.

JMillerUA6

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'preciate it hoss!

lol

rhafikjaan

I guess to make it easier to adjust toe?

slammedon19''

trust me u want them on ur toe is out and the factory stuff will only go so far i got mine done today only to find out ineed front ones look at the pic now my front need a camber kit too. to get the stance u want ur going to need them im going for the same stance my wheels are 19x9.5 45 offset i got the back at -1.6 camber and my toe is at 0.00 all the way around now the front looks dumped but when the kit gos on and i bring the camber out it will look even oh and it does not rub at all

InFaMouSLink

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Put them on. Its not gonna take that much longer.

Turbonut

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Can't say for sure, never tried it, but as the car is lowered we all know the camber and toe changes directly corresponds to the amount lowered, so after adjusting the camber using the Ingalls link, there may not be adequate adjustment remaining with the factory link to get the toe into spec.

Jesstzn

I'm a little lost here but is this the type of look your looking for? Inngalls installed and to factory spec.

JMillerUA6

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That's what I was thinking too. Didn't put it on today because I'm driving to Long Island tomorrow and I didn't want to do it with my toe all out of whack. Just gonna wait till next Saturday and install them then and get an alignment right after.

Yeah, something like that....