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LostSol 07-19-2011 07:06 AM

^^^please keep in mind there are a number of variables that will change what the CtC spacing actually means in ride height. A Type-S with an Auto (aka Heavy) and a Base with a manual (aka less heavy) will ride at different heights with the same CtC

faceman1 09-19-2011 08:46 PM

COILOVER TYPE: Type II (V1)

FRONT
CtC Spacing - 4-5/8"
Wheel Gap - 1 finger gap
Damper Clicks - 20 from the LO side

REAR
CtC Spacing - 4.5"
Wheel Gap - Little Less Than 1 Finger
Damper Clicks - 10 from the LO side

RIDE QUALITY- Front feels really good and comfortable for daily driving. May adjust to 25 for some better handling. The Rear are a little too firm for me at 10. Lower back is kind of killing me. May drop to 5 or Full Soft.

https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=47467

OEM_JDM 10-07-2011 07:09 PM

How low can these coils go?? like can i be super dumpt on these?

huystAr 10-07-2011 07:14 PM

pretty sure you can be to the ground lol

rockstar143 10-08-2011 12:08 AM

yes, you can ride on the floor with them...and megans etc...

sixsixfour 10-11-2011 04:05 PM

COILOVER TYPE: I, Version 2

FRONT
CtC Spacing - N/A - have to check
Wheel Gap - just on top of tire


REAR
CtC Spacing - N/A - have to check
Wheel Gap - a bit over rear tire


RIDE QUALITY - the way I wanted it. firm without being very bouncy. Marcus did the install and he actually has the notes as to what my setup was measured at. absorbs the bumps real good and doesnt transmit the impacts into the cabin.

OEM_JDM 10-15-2011 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by rockstar143 (Post 13286006)
yes, you can ride on the floor with them...and megans etc...

schweet! So these can get me as low as the megans?? like tucking almost all the tire on stock wheels??

stevietennis 12-15-2011 09:39 PM

I'm getting ready to get the HT-Spec v2 Type 1 on my TL-S and need some clarification please. If you look at the following link from Marcus' write up about coilover adjustments:

http://heeltoeauto.com/files/tech/HT...ment%20Doc.pdf

Would the collar to collar be the "Lower Bracket Height" as noted on page 4 of the document?

Gonna get started on the install tommorrow or sometime this weekend and any comment/help would be much appreciated. Hopefully it doesn't take me the whole weekend since I have a J-Pipe to install also!

Thanks!

Skunkworks 12-16-2011 12:37 PM

Are most of you guys running the "Standard Asian Suppply" spring grade or the "Eibach ERS Coils".

JD TL-S 12-16-2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by faceman1 (Post 13244343)
COILOVER TYPE: Type II (V1)

FRONT
CtC Spacing - 4-5/8"
Wheel Gap - 1 finger gap
Damper Clicks - 20 from the LO side

REAR
CtC Spacing - 4.5"
Wheel Gap - Little Less Than 1 Finger
Damper Clicks - 10 from the LO side

RIDE QUALITY- Front feels really good and comfortable for daily driving. May adjust to 25 for some better handling. The Rear are a little too firm for me at 10. Lower back is kind of killing me. May drop to 5 or Full Soft.

https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=47467

Thanks :) Car looks sweet :) What wheels are those may I ask ?

Thanks :)

JD TL-S 12-16-2011 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Skunkworks (Post 13426022)
Are most of you guys running the "Standard Asian Suppply" spring grade or the "Eibach ERS Coils".

Thats what I also want to know.

$899 with top hats installed is a great price, but $200 MORE for a coil upgrade is VERY STEEP IMO. Should be $100 IMO.

H23Accord 12-21-2011 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by DeathMetal (Post 13056021)
Just as FYI: The Type IIs get HELLA smoother after the first few weeks!!!

Interesting. I am on Type I V2 and they were firm the first day and a little smoother today. Anyone else noticing a break in period on these where they get progressively smoother?

rockstar143 12-22-2011 12:12 AM

I think that's probably normal.
900 bucks PLUS another 200 to pick a different spring?!?! Why not just go for the Teins at that point? I guess you all wanna be able to put her on the ground...

:)

jerzydevil609 01-09-2012 01:36 PM

COILOVER TYPE II (V2)

FRONT
CtC Spacing - 4"
Wheel Gap - no gap, tires half tucked
Damper Clicks - did not adjust yet (whatever they came set to)

REAR
CtC Spacing - 4"
Wheel Gap - no gap, tires half tucked
Damper Clicks - did not adjust yet (whatever they came set to)

it defintiely needs to be set firmer, idk if they were in the middle when i put them on, or if they were all the way low... and there is a breakin period for sure... the difference in one day was very noticable...

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_8993.jpg

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_7857.jpg

faceman1 01-09-2012 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by JD TL-S (Post 13427010)
Thanks :) Car looks sweet :) What wheels are those may I ask ?

Thanks :)

Wheels are Axis Pentagons. 19". I just ordered the V2 damper upgrade from Heeltoe. I'm hoping for better ride quality/handling. Couldnt get the V1's to feel "right". I currenty have the V1's set to 25 front and full soft in the rear. Front is a lil bouncy at times and I really don't like having the rears on full soft. Hence the reason for upgrading to version 2.

faceman1 01-09-2012 04:56 PM

jerzydevil609 .. looking good! :thumbsup:Let us know where you end up with the settings for front & rear for the V2's.

jerzydevil609 01-10-2012 02:02 PM

preciate that faceman!! question for everyone... did everybody just twist em to all the way soft and then start counting clicks? like i said before, i didnt mess with the dampening when i installed it, and its pretty soft now... i went and looked at the backs real quick (seat is still off) and it twisted both ways which makes me think it might be in the middle somewhere...idk... i'll mess with it today when i get off and report back...

also, my 4 inches was from the bottom of the spring holder rings where we all measured from to the red cup twisty thing, not to the ring sitting on top of it where everybody else measured to, so mines really 4 inches minus the thickness of the ring just to clear it up... not a big difference, but hopefully that wasnt too confusing..

jerzydevil609 01-11-2012 08:42 AM

... question...

for the front coils, (v2 type 2) i'm tryina adjust the dampening, but the knob and the lil gold piece with a bunch of holes its connected to aare both loose and dont click... i can spin them independently as well... am i supposed to tighten the gold piece with the holes independently of the red wheel and then adjust the red wheel? or keep em both loose, twist the red knob all the way lose then start counting clicks then tighten it down with the gold thing?

it doesnt seem to click or when the gold part is tightened... idk if that made any sense at all but hopefully somebody can help me out... also put a email out to marcus at HT, but figured id share this in case somebody else was confused... the backs seemed to twist just fine, but i didnt really mess with those yet... thanks everyone for the heads up!!

faceman1 01-12-2012 05:56 PM

Yeah. Tighten the gold piece with the holes with a pliers. Just make it snug. Don't over tighten. If you get no clicks or it just spins after doing that your knob may be bad.
I never got a "positive" click when turning mine towards the Hi or firm side but could feel the clicks when making the damper softer.

jerzydevil609 01-13-2012 07:27 AM

thanks faceman!!! i appreciate the help!!

SpiderX1016 01-22-2012 06:40 PM

I took the recommended settings from Heeltoe and went a little lower. I haven't adjusted it. Just installed it and loved the height it's at.

COILOVER TYPE: Type 1

FRONT
Preload - 8"
CtC Spacing - 3 3/4"
Wheel Gap - 1 finger
Damper Clicks - N/A

REAR
Preload - 8 3/4"
CtC Spacing - 4 1/2"
Wheel Gap - 1 finger
Damper Clicks - N/A

Ride Quality - Firm on decent streets. Pretty harsh going over bumps. Uncomfortable at times but it's a good solid feel imo. Passengers probably won't like it.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...h_P1030543.jpghttp://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...h_P1030544.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...6/P1030542.jpg

rockstar143 01-22-2012 08:25 PM

You just need aspec... :)

SpiderX1016 01-22-2012 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by rockstar143 (Post 13499824)
You just need aspec... :)

Yessir. Maybe some RJ Legends too.

jayunsplanet 02-04-2012 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by SpiderX1016 (Post 13499612)
I took the recommended settings from Heeltoe
Ride Quality - Firm on decent streets. Pretty harsh going over bumps..

Marcus revised those settings. Preload should be 7.5 inches not 8. Out of the box they are 8in. I too noticed the ridiculous banging when hitting any average size bump. Shock is bottoming out. Marcus said making that 1/2in preload adjust will significantly help. I'm in the garage adjusting that now. :2cents:

rockstar143 02-04-2012 05:11 PM

1/2 of more preload is going to soften things up a bit? Sounds counter intuitive...

Check ebay for Ronjons...they are going for pretty cheap!

jayunsplanet 02-04-2012 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by rockstar143 (Post 13531196)
1/2 of more preload is going to soften things up a bit? Sounds counter intuitive...

Check ebay for Ronjons...they are going for pretty cheap!

Indeed it does. But that is what I was told an hour ago on the phone by Marcus. He said I was thinking about it backwards.

H23Accord 02-04-2012 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by jayunsplanet (Post 13531199)
Indeed it does. But that is what I was told an hour ago on the phone by Marcus. He said I was thinking about it backwards.

Interesting. So did you notice a softer ride after adjustment? For some reason it seems to me raising the preload that 1/2 inch to a total of 7.5inches instead of the claimed 8 would make the ride firmer thus keeping you from bottoming out. Please clarify your results as maybe I'm over thinking this and confusing myself:ugh:

SpiderX1016 02-04-2012 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by jayunsplanet (Post 13531124)
Marcus revised those settings. Preload should be 7.5 inches not 8. Out of the box they are 8in. I too noticed the ridiculous banging when hitting any average size bump. Shock is bottoming out. Marcus said making that 1/2in preload adjust will significantly help. I'm in the garage adjusting that now. :2cents:

Yeah, he told me about it when I picked them up but I never asked how it affected ride height. I'll mess around with it some other time but right now, I have no problems with it.


Originally Posted by rockstar143 (Post 13531196)
1/2 of more preload is going to soften things up a bit? Sounds counter intuitive...

Check ebay for Ronjons...they are going for pretty cheap!

Never thought of checking eBay. If I can pick up a set for $800, I'll be happy.

Mondo375 02-10-2012 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by jayunsplanet (Post 13531124)
Marcus revised those settings. Preload should be 7.5 inches not 8. Out of the box they are 8in. I too noticed the ridiculous banging when hitting any average size bump. Shock is bottoming out. Marcus said making that 1/2in preload adjust will significantly help. I'm in the garage adjusting that now. :2cents:

7.5inches for just the front or all 4? If just the front then do the rears stay at 8 3/4?

SpiderX1016 02-10-2012 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mondo375 (Post 13545766)
7.5inches for just the front or all 4? If just the front then do the rears stay at 8 3/4?

He told me just the front, didn't say anything about the rear. You'll be fine leaving the rear at 8 3/4"

Mondo375 02-10-2012 10:30 PM

Sweet, thx for the reply! Starting my install in the AM :thumbsup:

pinina 02-11-2012 10:00 AM

So what is the differance between the type 1 versions 1&2 that has no adjustments?

Mondo375 09-01-2012 08:33 AM

I know there's more set-ups out there! Re-adjusting mine hopefully today.


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