1.5" drop?

Just got a set of Koni SP3s and I wanna do as low as I can without a camber kit... that'll be something to get in the Fall..

 

Not sure but this probably should be posted here:

https://acurazine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=97

 

^ Dammit. You're right.

 

till the negative camber goes past 1.5 degrees- then a kit is a good idea to fix the tire angle in the vertical- puts the tread flat against the road

a standard 1 1/2 inch drop is no sweat- my camber is at neg 1.1 and neg 1.4 depending which wheel-at that drop
I leave the tires on one wheel and dont rotate

 

So you're saying a 1.5" drop doesn't require a camber kit?

And that you don't rotate your tires due to uneven wear? Sorry a little confused at your last statement.

What if I go to a 2" drop? I guess I'll just get an alignment and see what my camber numbers are at.

 

My HR Sport drop was enough to require a camber kit. I didn't notice any abnormal tire wear but after the first snow it became crystal clear that I was loosing traction. I rotated my tires and realized I needed a camber kit...and new tires. Don't kid yourself, save you tires and be safe. Get a camber kit and an allignment.

 

1.5 should be fine, I thought you had that already?

But yeah, pretty much you should consider getting a camber kit if your camber exceeds -1.5 degrees, which you would be able to find out when you get an alignment.

 

I would get a camber kit for insurance.

Although Bat3sTL is running swift springs on his stock shocks for almost a year now then he added the A-Spec 18's.

All he did was get an alignment and it was straight.

I think he might be getting a camber kit soon though.

 

Same for the 2G and the 3G? I'm not going to drop it much for winter. Do you have a front and rear kit? Why didn't you come to our meet!?

I'm dropped on Eibach springs... gonna throw those on Koni SP3s when I get em. I'll probably just even out the rear sag for now.

Yeah I'll end up getting one before next summer because I wanna drop as low as possible to see what its like

 

X2 on this one!! People will tell you, you don't need it but when your inner tread is worn and the tires are shot, ask yourself, do I need a camber kit?

Here are pictures of my tires before the camber kit. Also after I installed the camber kit, the car handled so much better. Nothing like having all four tires planted firmly on the ground.................

The rear camber before...........



After...................




The rear is easy but the front needs a ball press.............

Before............



After................




Signs that you are in need of a camber kit..............

Inner edge



Outer edge.....


Get the camber kit man, the best insurance you can get.

My car is dropped about 2inches in the front 1.75 rear.

I hope this helps.

 

Are most people just going with the Wicked or Ingalls? Did you do front and rear?

 

As you can see from my pictures, front a rear was done. If you are gonna do anything, it's all or nothing. The ingalls is what I installed. Ingalls gives you toe and camber in the rear as you can see by the two adjustment bars in the pictures. The front is camber in or out as you can see in the top ball joint.

 

Most of the time with a normal 1.5-2 inch drop- you only need the rear camber kit- which is cheaper and easy DIY install The rear camber goes way negative before the fronts will

Go extreme drop and the fronts will go past allowable limits- normal is ZERO degrees camber- max neg 1 degree

I have different camber front and rear- and each wheel is a little different- 1.4 neg on one side of the car front- neg 1.1 on the other
So I plan to leave my tires where they are- then they always run the same job and relation to the road
They either pull and turn the car - or they coast - too many possible issues with tire bands adjusting to their new position- and I run directional tire that need to stay on one side - one direction of rotation, so it works for me

 

Man who thought slamming a TL required so much work! Haha

For now, when I get my new struts on, I'll keep the drop to a max of 1.5", get it aligned (I think I'm gonna get the unlimited alignment deal at Firestone!) and see where my numbers are.

Thanks for the help!

 

how much is a camber kit for a acura tl type s 08? would it work if i go 1.75 or 2inches all around drop and not have a camber kit?

 

fyi I got my lifetime alignment at firestone for $140 tax included.

 

^ Yeah they offered it to me last time but I said fuck it. Looking back, I should've gotten it.

 

In the pics, how long have you had the tires on for? And you had an alignment after you dropped it right?

 

I'm dropped 1.75" all around, don't have a camber kit, and I have even tire wear all around. The key is to get a good alignment done. You need A LOT of negative toe. This will work for you, too, as long as you don't lower your car 2" or more.

 

^ Good to know.

It seems like the general consensus is... get a camber kit or raise your ride IF your negative camber is greater than 1.5 deg.

Man the modding never stops!!

 

Wicked Tuning has a rear camber kit, $112 shipped, go on ebay, search "wicked tsx", available in 3 colors

For the front, you have 2 quality choices, ingalls or spc, there are also a few other kits on ebay for real cheap, but since no one has tested them I wouldn't risk it

I am running a 1.5" drop in the front and really don't require a camber kit

My rear is a little over an inch,but I installed a camber kit just so I wouldn't have any premature wear

No idea why you'd want negative toe... I zero'd mine out

 

Al, did you mean negative camber? Thats what people have been discussing in this thread.

 

I recommend the Ingalls rear camber kit since it has 2 arms per side so you can adjust toe and camber. The rear kit is about $150, same for the front ball joints. Most members don't upgrade the front camber kits unless they have a more extreme drop, but you really won't know if you need a camber kit until you get an alignment.

If you need a camber kit you can visit our store for pricing:

http://store.excelerateperformance.com/

 

For certain people on here, you won't need a camber kit if driving city and wear the tires after 15k of driving. Me, I have a car that I put 60k on the car in 12 months.

The picture of the tires show the front tires at 25k miles before the camber kit.

I also have the Fireston lifetime algnment and had the car aligned after both the drop and camber kit install. I got the tires balanced and the car rides and handles sweet.

The tires are at 32k right now and still have even tread. Before the camber kit install, the insides were wearing so quick. The tires were loud and I had a vibration in the wheel.

Everything was fixed above and I have 32k on a set of 245/18 tires. I am looking to get 35-40k on them. Spend money now on a camber kit, or spend 800 bucks for new tires in two months.

 

I am a noob, so please don't blast me for asking this question. I know the TL is built with a negative camber for enhanced cornering and drivability. I am not an aggressive driver and just drive my baby to work and back on mostly the freeway. Is there a good reason why I would not want my camber at Zero for both the front at back so my tires wear evenly?

 

^Welcome.

Are you factory height, because TL's only have adjustable TOE in front. If your alignment is out of Normal specs then camber kits will be required to fix.

If you drive a lot of miles then I would have mine set as close to zero camber as possible (by buying camber kit/kits ). Are you having any tire wear issues?