Does the Comptech Rear Sway Bar reduce ride quality?
05-05-2006, 06:44 PM
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Does the Comptech Rear Sway Bar reduce ride quality?
Ok guys its been almost 3 weeks (as of tomorrow) and 1350 miles on the 'Ac and its running as good as the day I drove it off the lot 3 weeks ago...
QUESTION:
I hear a lot of talk about the comptech rear sway bar and I'm thinking about it...though I don't want to compromise ride quality, I'm a luxury guy and love the quiet smooth ride...I know it will improve handling as I can see on the forum (night and day difference by having it)...but does it decrease the ride quality?
I have the 6mt with the michelin's stock...
QUESTION:
I hear a lot of talk about the comptech rear sway bar and I'm thinking about it...though I don't want to compromise ride quality, I'm a luxury guy and love the quiet smooth ride...I know it will improve handling as I can see on the forum (night and day difference by having it)...but does it decrease the ride quality?
I have the 6mt with the michelin's stock...
05-05-2006, 06:55 PM
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I have the 5AT and it made a nice improvement in handling with a minimal affect on ride quality. Specifically, any bump that only hits one side of the car is more noticeable than before.
I've heard, though, that it makes less of a difference with the 6MT as you've already got a thicker/stiffer bar.
I've heard, though, that it makes less of a difference with the 6MT as you've already got a thicker/stiffer bar.
05-05-2006, 07:12 PM
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i have the 6mt and i have not noticed any reduction in ride quality. car feels better in some ways, the same in others...if there has been any negative change in the ride i am not able to notice it.
05-05-2006, 08:13 PM
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The RSB doesn't change the ride quality at all. It does improve the handling significantly on 5ATs, though.
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05-05-2006, 10:25 PM
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Stock AT RSB = 15mm
Stock MT RSB = 20mm
CT RSB = 22mm
Hence, if you have an AT you will notice a HUGE difference in handling, and I must comment I noticed no reduction in ride quality whatsoever.
If you have a MT the improvement is still there but not as much, after all, on an AT it's nearly 50% thicker while on the MT it's 10%...just do it you won't be sorry.
What it does do is reduce the understeer more than anything which just makes the care corner like a dream. The sway and ride are hardly impacted, well...mine sways less now too but I had an AT.
Stock MT RSB = 20mm
CT RSB = 22mm
Hence, if you have an AT you will notice a HUGE difference in handling, and I must comment I noticed no reduction in ride quality whatsoever.
If you have a MT the improvement is still there but not as much, after all, on an AT it's nearly 50% thicker while on the MT it's 10%...just do it you won't be sorry.
What it does do is reduce the understeer more than anything which just makes the care corner like a dream. The sway and ride are hardly impacted, well...mine sways less now too but I had an AT.
05-06-2006, 10:42 AM
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How much does the CT sway bar cost? Been lookin at getting this mod for awhile now. My 5at really feels loose when there is a good amount of weight in the back. Been wanting a AEM CIA also, should I hold off on that and get the CT sway bar instead?
05-06-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by clay8898
How much does the CT sway bar cost? Been lookin at getting this mod for awhile now. My 5at really feels loose when there is a good amount of weight in the back. Been wanting a AEM CIA also, should I hold off on that and get the CT sway bar instead?
05-06-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gqchicago
Stock AT RSB = 15mm
Stock MT RSB = 20mm
CT RSB = 22mm
Hence, if you have an AT you will notice a HUGE difference in handling, and I must comment I noticed no reduction in ride quality whatsoever.
If you have a MT the improvement is still there but not as much, after all, on an AT it's nearly 50% thicker while on the MT it's 10%...just do it you won't be sorry.
What it does do is reduce the understeer more than anything which just makes the care corner like a dream. The sway and ride are hardly impacted, well...mine sways less now too but I had an AT.
Stock MT RSB = 20mm
CT RSB = 22mm
Hence, if you have an AT you will notice a HUGE difference in handling, and I must comment I noticed no reduction in ride quality whatsoever.
If you have a MT the improvement is still there but not as much, after all, on an AT it's nearly 50% thicker while on the MT it's 10%...just do it you won't be sorry.
What it does do is reduce the understeer more than anything which just makes the care corner like a dream. The sway and ride are hardly impacted, well...mine sways less now too but I had an AT.
but the ride quality isn't compromised much unless you use polyurethane bushings for even better handling. in which case it still feels smooth, but this is coming from a 2nd Gen CL.
05-06-2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gauravp123
guys stupid question but where does this install? under the car? 
how long did it take to install/how easy is it to do?
how long did it take to install/how easy is it to do?
Also Im pretty sure the Auto is 17mm not 15mm. But you will still notice a difference none the less.
As for me, I have a 6MT and I notice it in the corners bigtime.
05-06-2006, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gauravp123
guys stupid question but where does this install? under the car?
how long did it take to install/how easy is it to do?
how long did it take to install/how easy is it to do?
05-07-2006, 08:23 AM
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6mt:
very slight increase in rr spring rate (some addtional "pop" over concrete slab hiway expansion joints). hardly noticeable, and a significant difference in hard cornering, especially over hi-speed ripple bumps.
very slight increase in rr spring rate (some addtional "pop" over concrete slab hiway expansion joints). hardly noticeable, and a significant difference in hard cornering, especially over hi-speed ripple bumps.
05-11-2006, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by trancemission
It is very easy, one of the easiest installs Ive done. But I guess being a mechanic helps lol!
Also Im pretty sure the Auto is 17mm not 15mm. But you will still notice a difference none the less.
As for me, I have a 6MT and I notice it in the corners bigtime.
Also Im pretty sure the Auto is 17mm not 15mm. But you will still notice a difference none the less.
As for me, I have a 6MT and I notice it in the corners bigtime.
Or do you find yourself constantly removing the bushings to add grease if you do not have the greaseable bushings?
05-11-2006, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Acura Jeff
Have you or anyone else experienced the negative side effect of squeaking over speed bumps?
Originally Posted by Acura Jeff
Or do you find yourself constantly removing the bushings to add grease if you do not have the greaseable bushings?
I swear one of these days I'm going to buy the greaseable ones...
05-12-2006, 12:45 PM
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Decrease in ride quality is in tire wear
I installed the RSB about 18 mos ago. It did not affect the ride quality. If you like taking curves, you'll love the comtech RSB!! However, I have noticed that this TL is really sensative to low tire tread affecting the ride quality than any other Acura/Honda Ive owned. Of course the first tires I wore out were Brigestone Turanza's (OEM).
I'm rolling on Yokohama AVS DB S2 (super high performance all season radials).
I'm rolling on Yokohama AVS DB S2 (super high performance all season radials).
05-14-2006, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Acura Jeff
Have you or anyone else experienced the negative side effect of squeaking over speed bumps?
no. i am getting some thumping, but i cannot confirm it's the sway bar...what w/ all the other noises coming from the rr deck + seatbelts prolly not.
Or do you find yourself constantly removing the bushings to add grease if you do not have the greaseable bushings?
no. i am getting some thumping, but i cannot confirm it's the sway bar...what w/ all the other noises coming from the rr deck + seatbelts prolly not.
Or do you find yourself constantly removing the bushings to add grease if you do not have the greaseable bushings?
05-15-2006, 11:49 PM
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Tint The Windshield
The ride quality is still perfect. No difference as far as stiffness. It's just supposed to hold it together when you turn the car and it reduces (not STOPS) the leanage from side to side. I would recommend it! It's yeah, like only $110, so why not?!?!?
05-26-2006, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by King of Pain
No stupid questions around here. Under the car, between the rear tires. Take a look under your rear wheels and you'll see it connecting the two suspension assemblies. Check the garage section for more details. Took me about an hour to install. Pretty easy.
05-26-2006, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cristphoto
I have an 06 TL with automatic. Can the 6-speed rear sway bar be easily installed? Driveway job or dealer visit required? Is the bar the only part needed or are there associated bushings or other items needed? I'm not after the absolute tightest bar but an improvement tweak over stock would be nice. Thanks. Steve
05-27-2006, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIC
There's only one swaybar. No difference between manual or auto. It is a fairly easy install. Most can do it within an hour or so. The bushings come with the bar. Some have upgraded their bushings (there are a few threads on this), but the ones that came with it seem to be doing fine for me. Put a little grease on them before you put them on and they will be fine.
from what i have gathered the 6spd bar is thicker than the auto sway bar.
05-27-2006, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ml3456
AMIC. Auto and 6 speed are different. Do a search, but the outo is 19mm and the 6 speed is 22. You will get more info than you wnt by using the search tool.
05-27-2006, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIC
The topic of this thread is the Comptech RSB. I thought the poster I quoted thought that Comptech made a different bar for manuals vs. autos. I know the stock bars are different sizes.
Ahh, I see. Looking at it that way no one knows whether its the OEM or the aftermarket.
05-27-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by subinf
from what i have gathered the 6spd bar is thicker than the auto sway bar.
05-27-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cristphoto
That's correct - the 6 speed is a different (thicker) bar. Again can I just remove the original thinner automatic bar and bolt in the 6 speed bar? Thanks for all input. Steve
yes, both will fit on.
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