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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Any1 ever have issues with Function Form Coilovers??

Good evening ziners. To those of you that have the Function Form Coilover kit (HT Spec V2) have you guys had anything go wrong with them? My coilovers are only a few months old and the rear passenger side is making a awful sound whenever I drive over bumps or uneven tarmac better yet anytime theirs the small bump in the road I hear it. I took it to the speedshop that installed them they told me it wasnt the coilver it was the seatbelt. I took it to my trusted mechanic at meineke where he removed the whole coilover (I wasnt there I had gotten called into work). But he called me and told me the whole strut was bad Im like they are only 2 months old he told me there is no pressure in the strut...
But heres the thing I dont notice any difference in the ride quality I just hear the noise. Any of yall ever had anything like this happen with any coilover setup you've had? Bc to my understanding they dont just go bad I mean their practically brand new. The coilovers are warrantied for a full year but I didnt register them when I first received them but I spoke to bruce and he said it shouldnt be a problem. I just need you alls input
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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I have the Type 1 V1 that I purchased last year. They have been installed on my cover a little over 12 months now and no problems yet.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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Hello, my fellow NJ'er.

Your coilover is shot. While I personally view them as being superior in both the comfort and performance category when compared to A-Spec, their ability to withstand impulse shock is...disappointing. You're going to need to replace it.

SOURCE: I blew 2 front coilovers in 3 weeks.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 01:55 AM
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I've seen a few threads with this topic pop up recently but I've noticed they are usually the type 1 coilovers. Do you guys get these same issues with the adjustable type 2's?

OP, hope you get the issue resolved.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 05:56 AM
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After over a year mine seem to ride fine but I have noticed excessive inner tire wear recently. I will have to do an investigation when I have the time.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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These things are over rated...had the type1 v2,couldn't wait to take them off
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Threads like this confirm why I'm going to spend the extra money on Tein Street Basis when I get coilovers for mine. I'd rather spend the extra money and do it right the first time.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Predatorbird
Threads like this confirm why I'm going to spend the extra money on Tein Street Basis when I get coilovers for mine. I'd rather spend the extra money and do it right the first time.
I agree with u here. I was opting for Megan Racing coilovers but I did everything all in one shot and skimped on the coilovers... Brand new rims, brand new tires, brand new coilovers so spending another $300-$500 wasnt really in my plans.

Originally Posted by EATSLEEPRACE
These things are over rated...had the type1 v2,couldn't wait to take them off
Why? What issues were you having with yours? Im now wondering if Megans or Teins ride quality is far superior...

Originally Posted by Dsrtne1
I've seen a few threads with this topic pop up recently but I've noticed they are usually the type 1 coilovers. Do you guys get these same issues with the adjustable type 2's?

OP, hope you get the issue resolved.
Thanks dude. I havent spoken to anyone from F&F yet but the only thing thats gonna be a killer is removing the bad coilover and sending it in and having the car sit.

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Hello, my fellow NJ'er.

Your coilover is shot. While I personally view them as being superior in both the comfort and performance category when compared to A-Spec, their ability to withstand impulse shock is...disappointing. You're going to need to replace it.

Hello jersian... I know its shot to shit. Its crazy because I feel like I hit more potholes or bumps with the front two more than anything else and those are perfectly intact... Im hoping I just got a faulty coilover from the manufacturer.

SOURCE: I blew 2 front coilovers in 3 weeks.
My goodness were they F&F??
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 12:23 AM
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Wow I find this very surprising. I'm on F&F Type 1's version 2 for about a year now. I have some really crappy roads here and can't even count the many times a pothole and crazy dip snuck up on me. My coilovers also have a bit of preload on them since they're soft from the beginning but as of now, ride quality hasn't changed and I don't hear any abnormal noises from the suspension area
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Old Jun 23, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by advance pass go
My goodness were they F&F??
All HT Specs are rebranded F&Fs.
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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im glad I read this thread.. lol (as I put my CC back in my wallet and clear my information)
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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I've had mine for just about a year without any problems. no abnormal noises to report considering the roads where I frequent arent very good.
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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its like hit or miss with these things......

im on tein street advanced now could not be happier.............hope everything works out for you, im sure they would replace them with no problem if under warranty
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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My front passenger one is blown.
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 07tl-s6spd
My front passenger one is blown.
What symptoms do you have? I suspect that mine is blown as well
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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You'll hear it. If you hear something akin to a cylinder bouncing around in a metal tube over ANY AND ALL bumps, she's done. There's no "suspicion" here. There's just hoping for the best and ignoring it or replacing it
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Well I dont think I have those symptoms. Just sometimes I feel like the passenger side rubs a bit more now than before and the car feels a little floaty. Well I do need rear tires and a better alignment so that maybe the issue there.
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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Eh, you're good to go then, brother. Trust me, YOU'LL KNOW when they go.
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TLDude876
What symptoms do you have? I suspect that mine is blown as well
going overs bumps big or small I can just here that blown strut noise

Mine are HT SPEC V1 Type 2's
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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[quote=07tl-s6spd;13865110]going overs bumps big or small I can just here that blown strut noise

hope you have them still under warranty,get them replaced....it sucks that there is no quality control on f&f........I would like to see how the isc hold up,they look very promising,hope they deliver in the long run....
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 12:03 AM
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Eh, you're good to go then, brother. Trust me, YOU'LL KNOW when they go.
yup. when my right rear OEM shock blew, I knew it. that "loose" feeling over bumps, the loud thud as if something was loose. yeah, if you know your car, you'll know if you blow a shock.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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do you have to contact heeltoe or F&F about a replacement?
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 02:54 PM
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If you bout it from Marcus,contact him ....he will help you out thru the process
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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You get what you pay for, I guess?

just over a year on the V1 Type 2's, passenger front strut blew out on hitting something, got it replaced, 2 months later now just noticed same rattle-can sound just not near as bad, but I haven't had any hard impacts. checking it out this week. If it's the same problem I won't stay with the F2's.
If I could do it over again I'd go with Tein. One of the hooks with F&F was they were promising the same type of electronic damping controller as offered with the Tein setup, but just 'coming soon', now I don't see it being mentioned anymore. Kinda sketchy if you ask me.
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 01:04 PM
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So glad i got Teins. No problems at all, even after 2 years
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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I keep trying to warn everyone but I'm the crazy one who is wrong!

TEAM TEIN or nothing!
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 04:53 AM
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bluescreenofdeath
just over a year on the V1 Type 2's, passenger front strut blew out on hitting something, got it replaced, 2 months later now just noticed same rattle-can sound just not near as bad, but I haven't had any hard impacts. checking it out this week. If it's the same problem I won't stay with the F2's.
If I could do it over again I'd go with Tein. One of the hooks with F&F was they were promising the same type of electronic damping controller as offered with the Tein setup, but just 'coming soon', now I don't see it being mentioned anymore. Kinda sketchy if you ask me.
update:
not only is it the same problem, it's the same exact strut (the replacement strut that F2 mailed to me directly from CA). FWIW, Marcus @ Heeltoe has been nothing but helpful and I would certainly recommend him still, I don't think anyone should expect a 'perfect' setup for the price you pay, and even Marcus will admit there's better products out there if you've got the money. Maybe he or someone else can chime in though and comment on whether or not the V2 damper has fixed this issue or not-- as for now my only solution is to purchase two V2 dampers and replace both fronts and hope for the best.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I don't expect the F2 guys out in CA to do anything to help me out on this one, but it is upsetting that on perfectly smooth roads and no 'incidents' their V1 replacement strut blew out within a few weeks... i'll find out when I call them tomorrow and update here.
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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well damn, I just got my shipment of HT specs Type 1 V2's in.
Praying nothing goes wrong in the future....
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bluescreenofdeath
update:
not only is it the same problem, it's the same exact strut (the replacement strut that F2 mailed to me directly from CA). FWIW, Marcus @ Heeltoe has been nothing but helpful and I would certainly recommend him still, I don't think anyone should expect a 'perfect' setup for the price you pay, and even Marcus will admit there's better products out there if you've got the money. Maybe he or someone else can chime in though and comment on whether or not the V2 damper has fixed this issue or not-- as for now my only solution is to purchase two V2 dampers and replace both fronts and hope for the best.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I don't expect the F2 guys out in CA to do anything to help me out on this one, but it is upsetting that on perfectly smooth roads and no 'incidents' their V1 replacement strut blew out within a few weeks... i'll find out when I call them tomorrow and update here.
good news! didn't have to mess with F2 on this as I just called Marcus and he's working on a solution now, should have some replacement struts/oil tubes on the way shortly...
A+++ for Heeltoe, Marcus stepping in with a solution instead of just referring me back to the manufacturer, as he had every right to do.... awesome!
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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He's been looking for a solution for a long time!....lol...his customer service is good ,the product he stands by is garbage!
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Decayin
well damn, I just got my shipment of HT specs Type 1 V2's in.
Praying nothing goes wrong in the future....
Fill out and mail your warranty card in.
Also, seems to be a QC issue so the vast majority of people have no problems and only a few get a set that doesn't hold up?
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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my 2 fronts are also making this clunking noise and whenever i hit a dip on the freeway my car rocks like a boat =( i will be talking to function & form ( preston ) about this situation and you guys should call in and do the same!
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Same here, not satisfied with it.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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Ive had mine for over a year and am having the same issues. At first I loved them. Then I started to get a rattling noise from the front right shock. I changed endlinks, sway bar bushings until finally I decided to change the shock under warranty. The shock I was sent blew out within a week. The next one was ok but then I began to get a rattling noise from the front left shock, and then the right followed again. I am out of warranty at this point so i got two new front shock out of pocket. I had them replaced and the left one blew out within a week. I replaced that one with an old one that I had and now im traveling with a rattling car. Long story short, these coils are not built to last. They loose pressure right away. Im so fed up that im probably going to throw my stock setup back on for the winter and ride jeep status for now. Marcus is a good dude but he needs to really look into the product hes pushing. With the money i spent paying people to swap out shocks, I could have bought a whole new set of coils from another brand.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 02:11 AM
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Same crap happened to me. I had HT-Specs on and the rear started making a knocking noise after a few months. Took them off thinking I was going to sell the car and to no surprise, the noise went away.

Haven't tried to warranty it cause I'm not sure which rear strut it is. I have emailed them about it with no response.
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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Man, and I seriously considered picking up a set of these a while back. Glad I waited it out and found the right deal on my Tein SA's!
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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We have been trying to find a resolution to some of the issues we have seen customers have. To be perfectly honest it has been really difficult validating most of the issues people say they have. Case in point, read this latest update on a recent forum. This customer had a "blown" front shock, and exchanged a couple times with F2. Apparently one of the ones he returned was tested to be ok and they did not want to refund his deposit. To make matters worse, one of the new ones he got was again "blown." (I am not sure what blown means to people...but that is what he said). Read what we did to help address the issue:

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I was speaking with the customer and we decided the best thing to do was going to be for him to send me his culprit coilover assembly so I could install it in my car and I in turn sent him a known-good one from my car to install in his car. I have no such issues in my car so it seemed sound thinking that if I could duplicate the issue we could definitely call it a problem with his part, but if I could not duplicate then I would have to side with F2. Likewise, we'd like the customer's issue to go away and if I believe my part is good, then this should be the case.

That was something like a month ago. I got the customer's part and it was adjusted properly, within a fraction of an inch of my own setup, so I did not make any changes before or after installing. It was a straight bolt-in affair.

I have been using the customers coilover in my car quite aggressively over the last few weeks and am finding absolutely no issues at all with it. I have put at least a thousand miles on it in all sorts of driving. I have not gotten any abnormal sounds or feelings from it. It handles the same as my other one did. My car, for those who have not been made aware, handles pretty darn good for running a $600 suspension. Actually, it handles better than some of the $1000+ suspension I've run in the same car.

The customer just emailed me saying the first day they had no sounds but from that day on for the last 3 weeks they are getting the exact same sound and feeling they had before.

I really don't know how much farther I could go to try and vindicate F2 here. I was unable to validate the problem with this test and therefore I would have to call the part good. If I was being asked to warranty this part, I would deny it as well. F2s policy is in place to prevent unnecessary costs incurred for falsely condemned product and that means if fault is not found they are not going to incur that cost.

I cannot explain where the problem is with the customer's part but I think we have done a lot here to help find out, and in our inability to validate the problem with the component and the customer stating they have a problem with a known good part, we have to look at outside factors causing the problem.
If you want the whole story, including some more F2 flaming and Heeltoe commentary, Google "My experience with F&F "


So that being said, we don't call our customers liars because we do truly believe you are harboring some discontent. We believe there is something going on with your car that you don't like. Be it the suspension, or the way it reacts to the roads you are on, we are finding we have little control over the outcome when people use these F2 sourced parts.

We have decided to stop selling these parts until a resolution can be found that will increase our confidence that these threads will not come about. For that we have put the ball in F2s corner. We have called, and emailed, and they have yet to get back to use to let us know what they are going to do. If there really is nothing wrong they have not told me that is the case. If there is, they either don't know how to say it or don't know how to fix it.

Regardless of if there is an issue or not, we don't want to be associated with negativity.

We have had ultimate success in selling Teins over the the years, and wanted to do our HTSpec kit with them. However the cost was going to run to about $1300 which we knew would offer limited demand. We knew a lower cost kit would be much more popular, and we were right. With hundreds of kits sold we know there are tons of people out there who are happy with the HTSpec kit by F2. However the few people with issues who seem unable to find resolution, even with our help, create a compelling case not to buy them and therefore this product must change.

For now our best recommendation for suspension is the tried and true Tein options. They will not put your car within 1/2" of the ground as some people seem to want to do, but those people will not usually provide the most appropriate feedback on the real world attributes of a kit. Heeltoe continues to be a top-volume Tein dealer, one of the most successful Tein dealers in the country. We sell more kits than most other Tein dealers nationally (Tein's figures, not ours). So while we cannot offer complete confindence in the F2 product we are happy to prodive solutions from Tein.

We also caution people against other cheaper brands. We have found that the price versus features method of choosing parts will rarely net higher quality, which results in the ultimate measure of happiness.
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