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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 11:57 PM
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Alignment Issues..Alignment print out enclosed

My car is pulling to the left while accelerating. does something look wrong with this ?
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 06:32 AM
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Im curious if toe has to be at 0.00 exactly or if the -.01 on each side will affect how straight it remains.


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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 06:50 AM
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Looks fine as not much difference in side to side specs, but torque Steer is normal under heavy acceleration with the unequal axles, but worn LCA bushings will exacerbate the situation.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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Since front caster is out of spec, I'd suspect something got bent/worn...
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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I figured it out .. stupid sears mounted the driver side front tire inside out...wth
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:11 PM
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When the car pulls to one side when you're accelerating, it's called torque steer. Very normal for our cars. What about when you're cruising at a constant speed?
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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update: okay so nothings changed car still pulls to left only accelerating.. car just feels uncanny.. does the toe need to be on 0 in the front in our cars for best drivability? I'm taking car back in the morning just wondering what I need to tell them to get it right.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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Are you sure it's just not torque steer causing the pull?

There's nothing wrong with your toe setting. That is not causing the pull.

Also, ask them why front caster is out of spec. Caster is not adjustable, so something is worn or bent (compliance bushing/s worn or lower control arm/s bent).
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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i have the car for three years and never felt it pull like this..i thought torque steer pulled to right not left?...it didn't pull like this prior..they did adjust the rear somehow..the car feels basically undrivable and definitely sketchy while accelerating..i guess I get them to check bushings tomorrow..Dude told me the caster is very close and shouldn't matter..but I dunno..the steering wheel does feel strange and is slightly tilted to left?

--should the camber be closer to 0 in the front?

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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 03:08 PM
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Your camber and toe settings look fine. They will rarely be perfectly at zero. Your alignment isn't causing the pulling issues. If it was, your car would pull to one side all the time, not just when you accelerate.

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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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I went back to sears this morning..they made it a Lil better but something is still up..car cruises okay but when throttle is applied while at a cruising speed the car still pulls wildly to the left..is this normal?..I am coming off aspecs to type s wheels.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Car should not pull one way or another enough that it alarms you, that isn't normal.

I just got new tires (Goodyear Eagle Sport A/S) at Sears, they did an alignment too. No noticeable pulling one way or the other.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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first advice....stay away from sears...I would go to a shop that has proper techs and an alignment rack


from the pix, I see your steer angle is off....its very marginal, not sure enough to make a difference....

any vibrations/etc that you encounter?
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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hard pull under acceleration is normal. Check your suspension for any worn or broken parts
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lowchef
I went back to sears this morning..they made it a Lil better but something is still up..car cruises okay but when throttle is applied while at a cruising speed the car still pulls wildly to the left..is this normal?..I am coming off aspecs to type s wheels.
How did your right rear toe get back out of spec so quick?
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 11:32 PM
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I know right.. I'm not sure what's up with that.. I'm going back again in the morning for the final time. I'm trying to not have to go to dealer ship but I may have to.. is it best to have the toe as close to zero as possible?
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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nfn....great point....i was thinking about it too but was too lazy to go back and compare...
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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update: went back to sears again this morning a guy seemed to get it a lot better stills feels like it wanders a bit. .I just may be used to the Aspecs I was on.. Time will tell... I'm still going to dealer Monday cuz they told me compliance bushings are covered under extended warranty and I'm trying to get as much covered as I can before it expires.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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Im at a lose for words..i drove my car after work tonight and its still pulling to the left..i have had 3 alignments this week..how can the latest print out sears give me look so good yet its really not so good..Im not looking for to go to dealer but i guess im gonna have too.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lowchef
Im at a lose for words..i drove my car after work tonight and its still pulling to the left..i have had 3 alignments this week..how can the latest print out sears give me look so good yet its really not so good..Im not looking for to go to dealer but i guess im gonna have too.
Pretty sure your issues/questions have already been answered....
Originally Posted by Turbonut
Looks fine as not much difference in side to side specs, but torque Steer is normal under heavy acceleration with the unequal axles, but worn LCA bushings will exacerbate the situation.
This.
Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Caster is not adjustable, so something is worn or bent (compliance bushing/s worn or lower control arm/s bent).
This
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by lowchef
Im at a lose for words..i drove my car after work tonight and its still pulling to the left..i have had 3 alignments this week..how can the latest print out sears give me look so good yet its really not so good..Im not looking for to go to dealer but i guess im gonna have too.
please come back to post after you go to the dealer to let us know what your problem was !
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Old Jan 20, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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Well I dropped car of at dealer earlier and they just called me and said one of my new michelins is defective. They are going to replace compliance bushings under extended warranty and a oil pump leak they found.. there trying to talk me into replacing timing belt since there already have oil pump apart .he quoted me$550 versus $1350 if I had done later. Does this sound like a good deal?..I also just called sears and they are ordering me a new tire.
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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Which michelin tires do you have? what defective did the dealer found out? Feathering,cupped,bubble,ect?
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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I have the new michelin ps3 all season..The dealer didn't say exactly but I will sure to ask..I was hoping to pick car up today but it looks like snow is gonna delay things.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 01:06 PM
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Final Update:


The dealer took care of me I feel.. They found tire defective that sears couldn't..Make a long story short sears ordered new tire and put on today and all seems well with that..I ended up doing timing belt change since dealer shaved off another $150 so I got timing belt including water pump changed for $650 would have $850 before they gave me discounts I asked for...and if not for oil pump would have been $1350..My extended warranty covered compliance bushings...oil pump seals...side mirror actuator and 4 wheel alignment.. I saved over 1000 dollars total...My car drives much better now and I these ps3 all seasons do pretty well in the snow.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 04:07 PM
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Glad that you figure it out the problem and kudos on big saving.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lowchef
Final Update:


The dealer took care of me I feel.. They found tire defective that sears couldn't..Make a long story short sears ordered new tire and put on today and all seems well with that..I ended up doing timing belt change since dealer shaved off another $150 so I got timing belt including water pump changed for $650 would have $850 before they gave me discounts I asked for...and if not for oil pump would have been $1350..My extended warranty covered compliance bushings...oil pump seals...side mirror actuator and 4 wheel alignment.. I saved over 1000 dollars total...My car drives much better now and I these ps3 all seasons do pretty well in the snow.
Nice!!

But I'd still keep an eye on your rear toe. It went back out of spec in a very short time on two different occasions...
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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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Really seems that these cars are very sensitive for tracking. My wife's 06 TL was really wandering both ways on local roads so got new Michelins after Tires Plus they told me the old tires (off brand) were really wearing badly. With new M's, still some wandering but not as bad. They aligned it twice with minor success and told that not many ways to align this car because ball joints not alignable, only replaceable. Took it to Acura and they worked it a little better but still some minor wandering. Going to live with it now.
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