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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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Windshield wipers quit working ?

2005 Acura Tl :

They worked fine yesterday, but when I turned them on today they didnt do anything. Is this a common problem ? Where is the wiper fuse located in our panel ? Just trying to figure out if it is something besides bad motor before I purchase one.

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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Yea there is a recall on this.
RECALL: 2004-2005 Acura TL
NHTSA Campaign Number: 08V092000 Manufacturer AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO. Recall Date: FEB 26, 2008 Potential Number Of Units Affected: 129600 DescriptionVISIBILITY:WINDSHIELD WIPER/WASHER:MOTOR SummaryHONDA IS RECALLING 129,600 MY 2004-2005 ACURA TL VEHICLES. IF WATER ENTERS THE WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR BREATHER PORT, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW THE MOTOR TO VENT WARM AIR DURING NORMAL OPERATION, IT CAN RESULT IN CORROSION INSIDE THE MOTOR HOUSING. THIS COULD CAUSE A FAILURE OF THE ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT BREAKER INSIDE THE MOTOR HOUSING ConsequenceIF THE CIRCUIT BREAKER FAILS, IT WILL CAUSE THE WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR TO BECOME INOPERATIVE, WHICH CAN INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF A CRASH IN CERTAIN CONDITIONS RemedyDEALERS WILL INSPECT THE WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR FOR SIGNS OF CORROSION. IF NO SIGNS OF CORROSION ARE PRESENT, A SNORKEL TUBE WILL BE ADDED TO THE WIPER MOTOR BREATHER PORT TO PREVENT WATER FROM ENTERING THE WIPER MOTOR HOUSING AND FOAM TAPE WILL BE INSTALLED ON THE COWL ABOVE THE WIPER MOTOR TO DIRECT WATER AWAY FROM THE WIPER MOTOR. IF SIGNS OF CORROSION DAMAGE ARE OBSERVED ON THE WIPER MOTOR, THE MOTOR WILL BE REPLACED, AND THE BREATHER TUBE AND FOAM TAPE WILL ALSO BE INSTALLED TO PREVENT WATER INTRUSION ON THE NEW WIPER MOTOR. THE RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 28, 2008.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jkgoff2007
Where is the wiper fuse located in our panel ? ...
Dude, do you not have an owner's manual?

And if you pull of the fuse box cover, there is a diagram there as well...

Look in the TSB section for the recall. You should have received a letter, unless you bought this 2nd hand.

Book mark this link for future reference. Most of your questions that can't be answered by simply opening your owner's manual can answered by looking at those links.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/check-these-sources-out-if-youre-having-problem-just-want-learn-something-767930/
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Dude, do you not have an owner's manual?

And if you pull of the fuse box cover, there is a diagram there as well...

Look in the TSB section for the recall. You should have received a letter, unless you bought this 2nd hand.

Book mark this link for future reference. Most of your questions that can't be answered by simply opening your owner's manual can answered by looking at those links.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767930
Thanks for the link. Definitely need to hit up the stealership for some of the TSBs I'm having issues with.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Thanks for the help. I had a good idea which fuse it was I was trying to confirm from someone else.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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sorry to wake this up from the dead. Would dealer's do the Recall even if the warranty is over?

my wipers stopped working and it is an 04 with 98k miles
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by seanmanila
sorry to wake this up from the dead. Would dealer's do the Recall even if the warranty is over?

my wipers stopped working and it is an 04 with 98k miles
YES. its a safety recall. they have to do it. and they do it for FREE. go get it fixed.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by seanmanila
sorry to wake this up from the dead. Would dealer's do the Recall even if the warranty is over?

my wipers stopped working and it is an 04 with 98k miles

As mentioned, yes. BUT you have to be in the VIN range.

List of TSB's/Recalls on this page: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/3g-tl-technical-service-bulletins-tsbs-3g-garage-j-016-a-613659/

Follow the instructions at the top of the first post, then open TSB 08-013. Check the VIN range there.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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That VIN range is crap. My car was one of the first ones to have the wiper motor fail and needed to be replaced. About 6 months after mine was replaced, they issued the recall. When i put my VIN in, it said that my car was was not with-in the range, or something like that.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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It has been done on my car I found out, so I guess I need to get the wiper motor replaced. Its not a fuse because I checked that, could be something else other than the motor?
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jokerman826
That VIN range is crap. My car was one of the first ones to have the wiper motor fail and needed to be replaced. About 6 months after mine was replaced, they issued the recall. When i put my VIN in, it said that my car was was not with-in the range, or something like that.
agreed. my 07 tl-s was excluded from the list and i had to pay the deductbable out of pocket. lame.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerman826
That VIN range is crap. ....
I'm not saying it's right; I'm just telling seanmanila how it works.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
I'm not saying it's right; I'm just telling seanmanila how it works.
I agree with you, but they need to get rid of that VIN range and do it to all of the vehicles that have the same motor which is all of them.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerman826
I agree with you, but they need to get rid of that VIN range and do it to all of the vehicles that have the same motor which is all of them.
That's not exactly right. '04 and early '05's had part number 38512-S3V-A01. The replacement part, as part of the recall, is 38512-S3V-A02. (I think those part numbers are right. They're in the TSB, but I can't access it at the moment to verify.)


Perhaps the A02 part is also flawed/prone to failure, but there is no recall on that part. Anyone who has a failure of the A02 part can request a defect investigation by the National Highway Transportation Safetly Administration (NHTSA) - they are the agency that initiates recalls forces complicance.

Here's the link to file a complaint: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Is there a D.I.Y. on the wiper motor install? I might buy the part and do it myself, Acura shop is charging $400+
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by seanmanila
Is there a D.I.Y. on the wiper motor install? I might buy the part and do it myself, Acura shop is charging $400+
The linked TSB has complete removal and re-install instructions.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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I went to the link but I can't access the TSB, need some kind of log in info
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by seanmanila
I went to the link but I can't access the TSB, need some kind of log in info

Originally Posted by Bearcat94
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List of TSB's/Recalls on this page: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659

Follow the instructions at the top of the first post, then open TSB 08-013. .....

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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
That's not exactly right. '04 and early '05's had part number 38512-S3V-A01. The replacement part, as part of the recall, is 38512-S3V-A02. (I think those part numbers are right. They're in the TSB, but I can't access it at the moment to verify.)


Perhaps the A02 part is also flawed/prone to failure, but there is no recall on that part. Anyone who has a failure of the A02 part can request a defect investigation by the National Highway Transportation Safetly Administration (NHTSA) - they are the agency that initiates recalls forces complicance.

Here's the link to file a complaint: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
My 2004 TL was not included in the VIN range and it was one of the cars that had the problem before the recall. They know what years they put the motor on and should have included all cars of those years.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
thanks, weird how that worked out.

Do you think they will fix it for free since it was a recall item that failed again?

Either way I purchased a motor via RockAuto, I will still call the Dealership tomorrow to see what an Advisor would say.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerman826
My 2004 TL was not included in the VIN range ....



Applies To: 2004 TL – ALL
2005 TL – From VIN 19UUA6...5A000033 thru 19UUA6...5A058279

Just one more reason dealerships get a bad name.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Do you think they will fix it for free since it was a recall item that failed again?
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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no, if they've replaced it with the revised part then the recall does not apply. Unless it's within the warranty period of their work.

This is just "normal" wear and tear.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Yes "normal" I would guess haha. Its just weird that I never had a wiper motor break in any car and I've had new and older cars. The wipers are still working on my 1896 Corolla GTS knock on wood.

I ordered one already and I am just waiting to see if its the revised part. Hopefully it is not that hard of a job.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by seanmanila
The wipers are still working on my 1896 Corolla GTS.
that was a great year for that car.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SharksBreath
that was a great year for that car.
thanks, its my second one. This one is undergoing a very very slow restoration process.

Makes me not think of buying wheels for the TL and buy an engine for it instead
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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I think you missed SharksBreath's intent. Look at the year you typed
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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oh yeah my typo.


update I finally fixed my wipers, got it done by one of our techs. It was the wiper motor that failed.
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