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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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Tranny Switch Swap Skepticism

Hey. I see a lot of talk on here about swapping out those two (three in my 08's case) transmission pressure switches.

It seems the whole thing was started by "I Hate Cars"? as mentioned in the great thread below:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/110-diy-guide-replacing-3rd-4th-gear-pressure-switch-3g-tl-2004-2006-a-729149/

But I see members going to dealerships and being laughed at when asking about switch replacements. I myself have said dealers are often instructed to thwart off anything that kills their cash cow. i.e. trans swaps.

And I mean no disrespect to "I Hate Cars" even though I imagine in the real world we would not get along he would never be invited to my house for football Sunday (trust me, his loss, my wive's friends are hot).

But we are entrusting our cars and wallets to a stranger on an Acura forum. And trust me, I have the switches and o rings in a cart ready for purchase.

But does anyone have any data to support his claim? Anyone actually CURRENTLY work for Honda or Acura as a mechanic who can justify the expense? People have put them in their cars and claimed it's like a new car but that is not scientific. I feel like my car somehow runs better after I wax it.

Looking at the switches in the photo, they just don't look like something that's all that fragile, seem pretty robust don't you think?

"I Hate Cars" says they go out of calibration? What? How are they calibrated in the first place? There is a machine that calibrates them to the transmission? To each other? If I replace mine don't I need that machine? Yes, I'm being wise but it sounds weak. I need more than that.

I'm sorry but at least one lemming has to stop and say "that looks like a long way down".

And lets look at this as a way to glean more FACTUAL information on the subject. I'm not picking fights here. I imagine "I Hate Cars" can handle a little criticism. You don't type close to 14,000 posts without expecting it.

Thanks guys and girls.
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TLDude876
Someone is having fun with their smiles today. That is just so darn cute. Good for you.

At least there is activity.
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dece207
Someone is having fun with their smiles today. That is just so darn cute. Good for you.

At least there is activity.
Not to be a jackass but the search feature is your friend on this site. This topic has been discussed numerous times in the past. Here is thread for starters and there are many more "transmission switches" thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...esting+builder
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TLDude876
Not to be a jackass but the search feature is your friend on this site. This topic has been discussed numerous times in the past. Here is thread for starters and there are many more "transmission switches" thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...esting+builder
No, I don't think you are being a jack-ass. You were actually much cooler than most about the whole search thing. Which I have found is a very very sensitive matter on this forum.

And I am aware of the search function. Everyone reminds everyone else about it's existence. No one actually answers questions on this forum. It's just thousands of members pointing towards the search button. Funny actually.

If you know the answer to my question exists please tell me. And I'll search some more. I know what the switches do, I know their part numbers and what they physically look like as well as the o rings, I know where they are located and what size wrench they require. I know how much they cost and where to buy them. This I found by searching.

But that is not what I asked. My question was: If anyone has any factual data as to why these switches fail. Not the opinions of someone. I could not find anything when I looked. Nothing official from Acura anyway. All I found were people telling other people to search

Someone wake up "I Hate Cars". He'll give me the 411.

Thanks TLDude876. You're alright. Nice ride too.
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Just a word to anyone who is going to drop the whole search button thing on me.

Instead just leave a and we'll call it point taken.

I actually would like to swap the switches in my trans but would like someone to back up the claims with more than "Good preventative maintenance", "Cheap insurance policy", "Dude, my bro's TL rips now". OK?

I found nothing substantial in my searches.

Thanks.
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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^idk man...the majority of people that have done the switch swap said they noticed a positive difference afterwards.

those who had laggy/long/harsh shifts no longer have them. instead, they're experiencing short, crisp shifts and everything feels smoother.

i remember when i swapped out my factory ATF fluid with redline racing/lightweight and the shifts felt exceptionally better. i would only expect the switches to do the same, which i plan on doing at my next 1x3 atf drain n fill at 50k.

i'll report back in a few months and let you know if i feel a difference.
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 09:03 AM
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^idk man...the majority of people that have done the switch swap said they noticed a positive difference afterwards.

those who had laggy/long/harsh shifts no longer have them. instead, they're experiencing short, crisp shifts and everything feels smoother.

i remember when i swapped out my factory ATF fluid with redline racing/lightweight and the shifts felt exceptionally better. i would only expect the switches to do the same, which i plan on doing at my next 1x3 atf drain n fill at 50k.

i'll report back in a few months and let you know if i feel a difference.
Awesome SharksBreath Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dece207
No, I don't think you are being a jack-ass. You were actually much cooler than most about the whole search thing. Which I have found is a very very sensitive matter on this forum.

And I am aware of the search function. Everyone reminds everyone else about it's existence. No one actually answers questions on this forum. It's just thousands of members pointing towards the search button. Funny actually.

If you know the answer to my question exists please tell me. And I'll search some more. I know what the switches do, I know their part numbers and what they physically look like as well as the o rings, I know where they are located and what size wrench they require. I know how much they cost and where to buy them. This I found by searching.

But that is not what I asked. My question was: If anyone has any factual data as to why these switches fail. Not the opinions of someone. I could not find anything when I looked. Nothing official from Acura anyway. All I found were people telling other people to search

Someone wake up "I Hate Cars". He'll give me the 411.

Thanks TLDude876. You're alright. Nice ride too.
The point of the post you're refering to is NOT "use search". The point is your first post mis-identifies the thread that kicked off the whole pressure switches thing. The genesis of the idea that pressure switches might be a good preventive maint item.

AND TLDude876 was good enough to post a link to that thread. He was being helpful in your quest for understanding, but you decide to be a dick about it anyhow.




Two other points about your OP. While you are correct, I think, that there is no objective, instrument-driven, test-proven, analysis that the pressure switches NEED to be changed, it is also true, I think, that doing so is VERY unlikely to be a bad thing. That is swapping an older OE part for a newer OE part is probably not harmful - even if, in the worst case, it's not effective. In the best case, it works.

The other point is that your run-of-the-mill Acura tech doesn't always know as much about our cars as we'd all like to believe. It's been reported that they don't (for example) know that our cars have a transmission fluid filter. The point being it's been shown many times (admittedly by anecdote) that people here, collectively, know as much or more as Acura techs about basic maint and operation of these vehicles.
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
The other point is that your run-of-the-mill Acura tech doesn't always know as much about our cars as we'd all like to believe. It's been reported that they don't (for example) know that our cars have a transmission fluid filter. The point being it's been shown many times (admittedly by anecdote) that people here, collectively, know as much or more as Acura techs about basic maint and operation of these vehicles.
Quite true. How many of these guys do you think even drive Acura's, let alone work on them or modify them? My boss has worked behind the counter of an auto parts store for 17 years...and you know what he does best? LOOK UP PARTS. Not work on cars, or do anything with them other than drive them, for that matter. Me on the other hand, I am wonderful

It would be cool if someone tested the pressure rating of an old switch to one that is brand new. I still have my old ones, and would be willing to test them, but i am not going to buy another set of new ones any time soon, nor am i going to remove the new ones from my car to check them.
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
The point of the post you're refering to is NOT "use search". The point is your first post mis-identifies the thread that kicked off the whole pressure switches thing. The genesis of the idea that pressure switches might be a good preventive maint item.

AND TLDude876 was good enough to post a link to that thread. He was being helpful in your quest for understanding, but you decide to be a dick about it anyhow.




Two other points about your OP. While you are correct, I think, that there is no objective, instrument-driven, test-proven, analysis that the pressure switches NEED to be changed, it is also true, I think, that doing so is VERY unlikely to be a bad thing. That is swapping an older OE part for a newer OE part is probably not harmful - even if, in the worst case, it's not effective. In the best case, it works.

The other point is that your run-of-the-mill Acura tech doesn't always know as much about our cars as we'd all like to believe. It's been reported that they don't (for example) know that our cars have a transmission fluid filter. The point being it's been shown many times (admittedly by anecdote) that people here, collectively, know as much or more as Acura techs about basic maint and operation of these vehicles.
Let me start by apologizing to those who took the time to actually reply to my thread. Seeing a senior moderator who is supposed to uphold a sense of decorum call someone a "dick" is a bit embarrassing. Makes one wonder what the requirements are to become a moderator.

I feel you were way out of line here and should Google the term "Moderator" for starters.

If you read my entire post and took everything in context then you calling me a dick is a non-sequtir. I hardly feel I started a beef with TLDude876. I appreciated his mature tone in reminding me of the search function. And yes, that's what he was doing. I have no idea where you are coming from with your opening sentence. Maybe you should re-read everything from the beginning. Sometimes you should just let the kids play.

And next time you feel the need to call names, please send me a PM so others don't have to deal with it.

Thanks.
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The moderator went a bit overboard with the comment don't you think?
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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The moderator went a bit overboard with the comment don't you think?
You're not fooling anybody Dece.

FWIW, having two user names is a violation of the TOS you agreed to when you registered. I'll ban your second account, but if it happens again, your main account will be banned as well.

Take that as a symbol of good faith.

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Old Sep 11, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
You're not fooling anybody Dece.

FWIW, having two user names is a violation of the TOS you agreed to when you registered. I'll ban your second account, but if it happens again, your main account will be banned as well.

Take that as a symbol of good faith.
My god I have never met such a group of uptight individuals. Is no one here getting action at home on a regular basis?
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Originally Posted by dece207
My god I have never met such a group of uptight individuals. Is no one here getting action at home on a regular basis?



It's not merely the fact of the 2nd account (although that in itself is frowned upon and not allowed).

The more problematic issue is that you did so to create a shill account pushing forward your own agenda. It is an intentional effort to mislead the members of this forum.

If you don't see that as an issue and, instead of owning up or simply letting it pass, choose to play the victim, that's your choice.

The members here can make their own judgement as to whether my assesment is correct or not.






This thread has gone too far off the rails to remain open and in the interests of transparency I won't clean the OT posts. If you wish continue the conversation - which, as I told you via PM, I think has merit - you'll have to start a new thread.
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