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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 11:54 AM
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I have a 2007 TL. I recently replaced my tires. A few days later, I am getting an error. Took it to the tire store yesterday, and they reset it. It stayed off briefly until coming to work this morning, and the error came back on. Are there 4 separate sensors? Any way to determine (or for hubby) which one? He is pretty mechanical and could replace but determining might be an issue.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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Did the tire shop confirm the pressure was correct on all four tires?
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 12:16 PM
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Yes. The tire pressure was correct. I saw on a couple of other threads about a phone/usb charger. I will remove mine when I leave work and try it out. Hopefully something as simple as that.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 03:31 PM
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There are 4 separate wheel sensors and they are actually inside the tire (part of the valve stem). So unless your hubby has tire mounting tools I doubt he can fix. I don't have a 2007 (I have an 05 that does not have TPMS). Anyway I still have a few things to offer based on TPMS experience with other cars.

There's usually two different types of TPMS warnings. A pressure warning and a system warning.
If a tire is low you generally get a pressure warning. Depending on the car that can be:
  1. a generic icon and you have to figure out which tire using a gauge and measuring each tire.
  2. shows the "corner" of the car the where the problem is
  3. shows all 4 tire pressures and where the problem is.
If there is a system problem you generally get a different indicator. These would usually be for:
  1. a defective main/head unit (probably not)
  2. a defective wheel sensor (could be)
  3. low battery in one or more wheel sensors. (very likely)
Check your actual owner's manual and it will spell out what you can expect to see and what it means.

Things that come to mind since you just had tires changed
  1. The installer damaged a sensor. Can be common. Good luck proving.
  2. The installer's compressor had a very high moisture content and blew a lot of water through the sensors. (Probably not likely)
  3. A battery in one or more sensors coincidentally crapped out. (if original 2007 sensors then pretty likely)
Too late now but I would have changed the sensors while you had the opportunity of having the tires already off. 10years is generally the max you can expect from batteries. We have an 08 CR-V with some dead sensor batteries and we see a system light come and go (light actually clears when the batteries temporarily perk up with temp). The car will need tires within a year so I'll probably change out the sensors then. Unless your state will fail the car at inspection if the TPMS system is failed I wouldn't sweat it too much. Just do it old school and check your tires occasionally.
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Old Jun 10, 2017 | 01:02 AM
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The fact that the tire shop "reset" your TPMS is laughable.
The TPMS on the TL is auto detecting. Im pretty sure they broke one of the sensors during the tire install (because they lied about reseting) or you just got unlucky for the battery on 1 to go flat. Enter the TPMS screen on the MID, start the car and the one not getting a reading (max value) should be the problem side.
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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TPMS error

I have a 2007 TL. I recently replaced my tires. A few days later, I am getting an error. Took it to the tire store yesterday, and they reset it. It stayed off briefly until coming to work this morning, and the error came back on. Are there 4 separate sensors? Any way to determine (or for hubby) which one? He is pretty mechanical and could replace but determining might be an issue.
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 09:20 AM
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take it back to them. They may have damaged one of the sensors. Are all four wheels getting the reading? Either the battery is dying or it's damaged. Did they replace the seal on the TPMS as well?
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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There are 4 separate TPMS sensors. If you scroll through the MID to where it displays the TPMS readings, going to guess one of the sensors will read "58" or some other odd reading. I mention "58" only because when I swap out my Summer and Winter tires in the Spring and the Fall, the TPMS reads 58 on all four corners until they synch up with the system.
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 09:32 AM
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TPMS error

First, thanks for the replies that I didn't respond to.

After unplugging my phone charger and leaving it off, the TPMS error light went off...until now. So WDPanda, you are probably correct that they messed one up. I am due for an oil change and other service at a neighborhood shop where the owner's wife has an older Acura so he seems knowledgeable of the brand. I am going to get him to hook it up to the computer thingy (don't laugh) and see if he can determine which one is bad. Of course, I called Acura, and they have sensors in stock at a cost of about $130 plus labor. Ouch! Of course, they want me to bring it in. Adobeman you mentioned possibly a defective wheel sensor (it started after they changed the left rear one) **see note below ** or a low battery in one or more sensors. Will my owner's manual indicate the type of battery that goes in the sensors if that is the case? Is that something that O'Reilly or Advance will have? I have become TOO dependent on the tire sensors to maintain my pressure, and I need the sensors working properly to make sure that I take care of them. I guess you could say that I'm a typical woman driver. If it has gas in it and cranks, I'm good.

Thanks for any suggestions.

**NOTE** Hubby walks into the garage one morning that I was off and said the last thing that he wanted to do was change a flat tire. I thought he meant on the lawnmower and pointed to my car. Somehow, I had gotten a stob (for lack of a better term) stuck in my tire the size of my thumb. He takes the tire off and goes to the shop. They don't have the same type in so they order it and he gets it the next day. After fooling with the tire, he comments that he didn't realize that my tires were so worn so he ordered 3 more tires. So a couple of days later, I go to get the other 3 mounted. The shop realized that 1 of the 3 tires were mislabeled and was the wrong size. So I get 2 of the 3 mounted and they ordered the other correct tire. So another day or two goes by and I go back again to get the 3rd tire mounted. A couple of days later is when the TPMS error light comes on to which I thought meant that one of my tires had fallen off my car. I stop in a not-so-desirable part of town to look at my tires, turned around, and almost limped back to the shop. They did "whatever" and said I was good to go. It stayed off for a week maybe and then came on again thus my original post. WHEW! Sorry, TMI.
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 09:36 AM
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 10:03 AM
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It only says TPMS error and when I go to the 4 tires display, there are no pressure numbers listed on any of them. I'm waiting on a call back from the repair guy. If he can connect the scanner to it (not sure if that is something that works for this), I will let him figure it out but I DO plan to take it back to the tire shop. They are nice folks and I have heard good things about them but this is the first time that we have used them, so I'm not sure if I have bad luck but it is a 2007 Acura with 208,000 miles on it. For the record, I have never owned a car with over 100,000 miles so this is uncharted territory for me, but I love my Acura.
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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Stupid question, is the MID the little screen beside the speedometer where you scroll through to the mileage counter, and the tire pressure indicators, etc?
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 10:09 AM
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Yes:

MID: Multi Information Display
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 10:25 AM
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I went out and cranked my car. The Check TPMS System was displayed. I scrolled through to the Tire Pressure and it said System Function Error and when I selected the Tire Pressure selection, it just had -- beside each tire where it says PSI on the right side. So with that said, it looks like I need to go back to the tire store, huh?

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There are 4 separate TPMS sensors. If you scroll through the MID to where it displays the TPMS readings, going to guess one of the sensors will read "58" or some other odd reading. I mention "58" only because when I swap out my Summer and Winter tires in the Spring and the Fall, the TPMS reads 58 on all four corners until they synch up with the system.
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 10:39 AM
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There are a few possibilities, but the fact that the TPMS system worked before you went to this shop and are having issues since - I would say that you definitely need to go back to the tire shop and have them make you whole.
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Old Jul 11, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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I think they stole all 4 of your sensors. Is the valve stem silver or gold?
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Old Oct 22, 2018 | 11:27 AM
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I just got the TPMS error message on my MIDI. It started off as 1 tire, I was not able to get a reading, it would detect and not detect. I have a 2009 TL and I know that its time for a new TPMS. One day, I got the TPMS System Error but I was on the highway then it went away after 2 minutes and I was able to see all 4 online. Two days later, I would be driving then the TPMS System error came back, hoping that it goes away after some driving. It had not.
Could it be that 1 sensor cause the whole system to error out? Is this their way of forcing owners to replace all 4 at once?
I went on ebay and ordered 4 TPMS sensors for 43 dollars. The vast choices for aftermarket sensors is abundant, I picked a 315mhz at 20 degree which is OEM specs. I tried to find similar shape as well. I think chinese company refurb TRW TPMS sensors.
I'll keep you posted on what I get.
Its a old car, my HDD on the NAV went, now TPMS. Engine and everything else still works great. Only 110k, no valve adjustment yet and the engine still purrs. I had the 105k service done, plugs, coolant flush, water pump, serpentine belts, timing belts.
Very happy with the car.
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Old Nov 6, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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I've installed the TPMS sensors but the reading doesn't stay, it intermittently shows and disappears. Does that ever happen to you?
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kickarsmann
I've installed the TPMS sensors but the reading doesn't stay, it intermittently shows and disappears. Does that ever happen to you?
Where did you get them
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 09:33 AM
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I bought TRW OEM's off ebay. Is there a process to "wake" them up? I called Honda/Acura and they want to charge me 100 dollars.
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Old Nov 25, 2018 | 02:47 AM
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I seem to have come across a TPMS issue between the 06 & 07/08 which may contribute to the confusion of solving tpms errors.

My 06 whenever swapping over to winters would start reading the tires one by one as you drive. Sometimes 1 wheel takes longer for whatever reason (age or battery or incompatibility) and occasionally throws a TPMS error. For the 06, restarting the car gets out of the TPMS error and it starts reading each wheel again right away. You'll see one with max value which helps you self diagnose the wheel with the problem.

On my 08 Type-S, once swapped over to winters this week, by habit I go to TPMS screen and notice the rear passenger tire not reading yet and eventually says TPMS error with a flashing tire indicator. Happens all the time so I plan to follow the procedure I normally do with the 06 but it wouldn't get out of TPMS error mode even after restarting multiple days.

So had I not kept an eye on the TPMS I would have lost track of which wheel the problem was from. Is there a reset of some sort? Disconnecting battery may work but I never got around to it as after about a week the sensor kicked into action and back to normal.

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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 07:31 AM
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Just got my winters on with their own set of TPMS. I noticed the front left tire will display 400Kpa for a while while the others sync properly.
After 5-10 min, it either sycs or i get TPMS error with --- on all tires.

This leads me to suspect the batter on the front left is almost depleted. This makes sense as the car is.... 11 years old. The other 3 will probably go out soon as well.

I guess there's no way to recharge/replace the batteries?
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Old Nov 26, 2018 | 10:37 AM
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The TPMS sensor does is not user replaceable battery. Fortunately, these sensors aren't expensive. I didn't buy the exact number from the sensor I took out but they seem to work intermittently. I have all these assumptions that it could be the cold, sensors need to be activated or the TPMS reader is defective.

I get the same symptoms as WDPANDA. The errors goes away after some driving but returns.
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 12:46 PM
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'07 here, just swapped to my winters last week with their own TPMS' too. 3 out of 4 of them synced and registered the pressure almost immediately, the 4th showed 58psi for awhile, then "TPMS ERROR" and "--" on all 4.
Now "TPMS error" instantly pops up every time I start.
Just went to a tire shop where they scanned the sensors and said the 2 rear are bad.


I'll try disconnecting the battery first (can't hurt, plus it's free!) before purchasing new sensors.
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe
'07 here, just swapped to my winters last week with their own TPMS' too. 3 out of 4 of them synced and registered the pressure almost immediately, the 4th showed 58psi for awhile, then "TPMS ERROR" and "--" on all 4.
Now "TPMS error" instantly pops up every time I start.
Just went to a tire shop where they scanned the sensors and said the 2 rear are bad.


I'll try disconnecting the battery first (can't hurt, plus it's free!) before purchasing new sensors.
sounds like what I have. Are you referring to the car battery?
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 01:58 PM
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sounds like what I have. Are you referring to the car battery?
yup.
will report back afterwards.
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 09:51 PM
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Hey sorry to resurrect this dead thread but I'm having the same problem that you were having last year... Did you have any luck with disconnecting your battery? Or did you eventually find the problem/solution?
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 10:15 PM
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Shop should be able to tell you which sensor is bad exactly. Sometimes battery fails on the morning when it's cold, and then sensor starts working, to be dead next morning again. Some sensors send data about their battery.

You can try disconnecting the battery, but from my experience computer in TL is smart enough to not require reset when replacing sensors / moving wheels.
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Old Nov 14, 2019 | 11:00 PM
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I have the same issue. One is bad. I'll have to replace it I guess. Disconnecting the battery did nothing.
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