libert69

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9 years later and the dash cracked. I always thought if this happened it would occur in the summer heat..but I guess the cold weather made it happen.

btw...ive always had a coat of amoral on the dash since day 1.

MEKO

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Cold does it too!
How you going to fix it? What's your plan

Off topic but, you have aftermarket speakers?

AZP-TL

Man that sucks. I dread the day.

libert69

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fortunately for now, that crack is in a non noticeable position while driving. if its get worse, or more cracks appear, Ill be going with a dash cover.

I havent seen any ways to repair it.


Yes, i have infinity tweets

05_NBP_TL

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Mine happened the day after i finished installing my new audio system. about 2 weeks ago.

Dont know if the aftermarket tweeter installation that caused it, or the sub causing the dash to flex, or the first cold night we had here when the temperature got down in the teens.

Too many changes for me at once to determine what actually caused the crack, and it is in the exact same place as yours.

And I am OCD about how i clean/preserve my car. It gets cleaned and wiped down with Aerospace Protectant.

justnspace

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whew!

I'm glad its just a dash crack.
I was thinking the inevitable.

SharksBreath

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too much turbo.

HEAVY_RL

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Crabs?

gatrhumpy

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Probably cracked BECAUSE you had ArmourAll on it. It contains sillicone, which dries out the dash. Try 303 Aerospace protectant next time.

nfnsquared

Oh God, not that old wives' tale again... please...

MEKO

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I used ArmourAll until I came here (5years)
Boston cold


Found some stuff

This dashmat is the Brushed Suade - black - by Dash Designs




Another one with aftermarket tweet

RaviNJCLs

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Well....it lasted 9 years.

Guiltyox

ArmourAll is KNOWN to dry out/crack porous surfaces....My car has never seen a drop of it, and never will.

nfnsquared

Please, just stop repeating the urban myth. It's total BS...

SharksBreath

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for once, i agree with you.

but, using any product that leaves a very high-gloss on your dashboard increases the chance that it will crack since the glossiness just serves to magnify the sun's rays.

use something that isnt so shiny and reflective. woolite mixture or 303.

the sun, cold/hot weather, back and forth temp changes are what causes the dash to crack. some other people think that the heat/ac lines in the car will also cause the dash to crack...but that's never been proven or highly discussed.

Guiltyox

Funny that the people who argue most about this as being a myth, live in much cooler climates, :-D.

A myth to you, a reality to me. Stop trying to invalidate what I believe in, you're efforts would be useless.

This may be the favoring factor in this causing cracks, atleast where I live.

imj0257

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Mine cracked a few months ago after having the car myself for almost 5 years. Car itself is also about 9 years old. Luckily it is only about 6 inches long and right above the passenger airbag. As of now, I can live with it...

nfnsquared

I used Armor All for 9 years on my 1977 Z28 in Dallas, no garage. No issues at all.

I used Armor All for 17 years on my 1989 Supra. (California, Maine, New York, and 11 years in Louisiana). Again, no issues.

Armor All is one of the most wrongly maligned products due to uninformed individuals like yourself that just continue to repeat the urban myth...

SharksBreath

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^maybe its just an acura thing?

nfnsquared

Huh?

libert69

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blah blah armorall this, armoural that. who really knows. maybe it lasted this long bc of the armorall. 9 years is not a long time for a dash but compared to others that lasted 5-6 years, maybe i made out pretty well

came out this morning and the cracked extended another 3 or so inches. damn cold weather. its only 28 degrees out and thats not even that cold.

btw, ive used a sunshade in the summer for the past 3-4 years as well.

I do like that dash mat Meko. I looked at the charcoal color but its so hard to tell if that shade of gray will be similar to my interior. I think the black would look a little off with grey interior

nfnsquared

Food for thought (not directed at the OP):

There are theories that applying any protectant to badly worn or dried out vinyl will cause it to swell and crack....

If you have a dash that's been left untreated and sun drenched for years, you might consider the above before deciding to add any protectant. Again, from what I've seen, it's just a theory so take it as that only...

SharksBreath

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what don't you understand? it's a pretty simple concept really.

nfnsquared

How does glossiness magnify the sun's rays? Where is this "simple concept" documented?

RaviNJCLs

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I think what he is "HUH?" about is the fact that most shinny surfaces tend to reflect the sun's rays, not magnify them.

SharksBreath

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in mah noggin.

Guiltyox

Good for you and all of your cars. Continually bashing someone by calling them "uninformed' is definitely not the way to go about trying to convince me otherwise.

Your geographical locations mean nothing to me unless you're in the same climate, which Texas is far from, and North Dakota is far from even close to the same climate.

FYI - Glossy surface will reflect the light more which will, in turn, create more heat. This why you sunburn more easily when close/in water.

Stop being a dickhead and grow up

nfnsquared

That's the problem, making a statement without a factual basis...Not trying to start a war here, but I have to call you on this one so others don't go away with false info in their heads...

Just think about it. What do you think causes glossiness? A glossy appearance is created by reflected light, not absorbed light. That is a documented fact and simple physics.

RaviNJCLs

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FYI - I'm not sure where you kids had your science classes but maybe you want your money back.

nfnsquared

They must have attended the "School of Misinformation"

SharksBreath

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i love you nfnsquared.

remember when we used to get along? remember?

nfnsquared

Dude, I'm not slamming you, just trying to find out what factual basis there may be behind your statement. If you have facts, enlighten us.

If it was just a mistaken/mis-spoken statement, then say so. I'm just waving the BS flag asking for supporting documentation, that's all.

The same goes for Guiltyox. Not slamming him, but he is "uninformed". There is zero documented evidence that Armor All causes cracking...

If he has any proof, I would love to see it.

SharksBreath

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^armorall has alcohol/solvents in it that will, overtime, dry out your dash and make it prone to cracking.

however, my argument wasnt even about armorall. i don't care what you guys use on your dash.

like i said before, i believe it to be a combination of temp changes and a defective dash right out of the box from acura. there are too many instances where this has happend to soley blame it on some dash cleaner/protector. i've always thought it was a manufacturers defect.

nfnsquared

Dude, again, where are you getting this?

Click this line for the Armor All MSDS

What are the ingredients in Armor All® Protectants? Do they include silicone, alcohol, ultraviolet inhibitors and petroleum distillates?

Armor All® Leather Care contains lanolin and natural moisturizers, and UV inhibitors. Armor All® Leather Care Protectant Spray and Leather Wipes contain water-based silicone emulsions, surfactants, and ultraviolet light inhibitors. Armor All® Original Shine Protectant contains water-based silicone emulsions, surfactants, and ultraviolet light inhibitors, humectants, dispersants and gloss enhancers. Armor All® Ultimate Clean Protectant contains water-based silicone emulsions, surfactants, ultraviolet light inhibitors and a fragrance.

http://www.armorall.com/faq/interior.php#answer8

I wonder that same thing myself, as I'm sure do many others...

05_NBP_TL

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^ Post #5. I have used the 303 Aerospace for nearly 5 years now and it still happened to me. I think mostly it could have been the climate change (from mid 50's during the day, down in the teens at night.)

My dash cracked overnight, im sure about that. I will be getting one of those dash mats if it gets worse.

sixsixfour

gonna have to agree with nfnsquared.

I took a 3 month detailing class with Meguiar's and even they said Armor All is not the cause of cracked dashes out there. the "myth" came to be because at one point in time, Armor All was the only mainstream product that people used to apply to their dashboards.

since everyone at the time were using strictly armor all, if a dash cracked, they simply blamed the product. noone else had a product remotely in contention with armor all so they took the blame. the meguiar's instructor even said that today, armor all still outsells their dash protectant product. and they themselves have not been able to prove that armor all causes the dash to crack.

its all in the materials used to make the dash, combined with the existing environment and conditions. there are cars lathered with armor all since day 1 and have not had any issues. that said, could armor all potentially crack a hot, dry dash? possibly. but so far there have been no concrete evidence that if you put armor all since day 1 when the car was brand spankin' new that it will eventually rot and destroy your dash.

Guiltyox

I couldn't care less at this point, I'm going to clean my car with whatever the I want. Why? Because I pay for it, not you.

What astounds me is the aggression, or passive-aggression some people will take to demand you accept their rebuttal.

nfnsquared

Hehe, asking for factual documentation to back up your statement isn't aggression.

UA6

I was always told that aftermarket dash products clogged the pores on the dash causing heat to build up. I always wiped my dash down with a damp rag...no chemicals..just water.

Guiltyox

No, but calling someone "uninformed" unnecessarily is. Uninformed by whom? Your personal resources? I'm done with this conversation.

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