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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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anyone?
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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I wouldn't, but that is just me. You can probably get away with it
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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dont have a choice right now lol
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:58 AM
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Theres no dealership closer than that?
Thats a long way, change the oil before you go, and maybe again halfway there lol.

The engine is still salvageable right now, but running an oil water mixture for that long will probably finish it off.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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damn. yeah the only dealership in between is the one i went too yesterday...
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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yes, if u drive cautiously. Bring a gallon of coolant along with you and dont forget some engine oil too. my ex used to drive a blown head gasket camry for over 2 years, she only had to refill the coolant every week lol.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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yeah. definitely picking up coolant on the way for sure...


as for the second opinion... is it worth trying again somewhere else? i was told they logged the voided warranty in montgomery dealership and explained about the hose causing a leak and not accepting because it was aftermarket.

should i even bother putting on the stock intake? or will they know that i had the aftermarket on already?
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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I wouldn't suggest trying to cover anything up and denying an aftermarket intake was on the car. That really shouldn't matter. Press them on the issue, like I Hate Cars said, of how the CAI would cause the type of problems you are experiencing.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Unless they can prove it caused the failure, they can't void your warranty. I'd love to hear an explaination of how a CAI can cause an overheat and a warped head, because it can't.

It might be worth it to get an attorney, they are going to try and fuck you now on every warranty repair the car has. Plus with this engine problem, you are looking at a huge bill.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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what about the connection between the coolant hose and overheating... if the hose is what caused the overheating which then caused the warped head, would that void warranty?
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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If they could prove that you had fiddled with the hose then yes.

That sucks man, if you cant get it fixed under warranty take it to a real mechanic not a dealer and they will do it much cheaper than replacing the engine, thats bullshit
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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yeah im just trying to prepare for what they might say again...
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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I've been to 2 different dealers and the second one knew nothing about my car so there doesn't seem to be any kind of universal Acura computer system, at least up here anyway.

You may get lucky playing dumb with the new dealer, just make sure you tell them you never touched any coolant lines.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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^^^ hard to do that when the cai came with an aftermarket coolant hose lol. and thats what they wrote in the statement from the first dealership. i had an aftermarket hose.

actually this is exactly what they wrote

"Customer stated check engine light came on.
Found coolant leak near throttle body.
Aftermarket hose installed."

is that really them proving anything?
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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What kind of CAI is that?

Your only hope would be to take the whole thing out and put the factory air-box back in. Lot of work, but might be worth it
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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its the aem v2.

really? i mean will they find out that i went to the montgomery dealership already? cuz if they do they'll know im trying to cover something up...
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
its the aem v2.

really? i mean will they find out that i went to the montgomery dealership already? cuz if they do they'll know im trying to cover something up...
Probably not, dealers don't share service records. A dealership can't void your warranty anyway, only Honda USA corporate can.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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idk im torn... keep the intake in or take it off... not sure which one is better atm... x__X
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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I strongly suggest you do not reinstall the stock air box. Unless you want to actively engage in a misrepresentation
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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what do you mean by misrepresentation?

if i do decide to put the stock airbox back on... whats worst case scenario? they find out my warranty got voided in montgomery and tell me they can't fix it under warranty?
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I must have missed the purpose of you putting the stock airbox back on. If it is to avoid further coolant leaking out then ok, that is fine. In the past it has been suggested that, if the CAI has caused any type of damage or was being blamed for causing some sort of malfunction, that the stock airbox be put back on and taken to another dealer, not disclosing the fact that a CAI was previously on the car when the problems started.
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Originally Posted by subinf
In the past it has been suggested that, if the CAI has caused any type of damage or was being blamed for causing some sort of malfunction, that the stock airbox be put back on and taken to another dealer, not disclosing the fact that a CAI was previously on the car when the problems started.
is that going to be trouble? did it work?
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Yes. And no. And you will just be screwing yourself if you take that approach.
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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yeah thats what i was thinking... idk. alot of what i've done has been screwing myself =\
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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just hoping the car will make it for that long....
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
just hoping the car will make it for that long....
Change the oil before you make the trip. Take extra coolant and oil with you as well.
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just got back from the trip.... drove for 4 hours... cruised 60 the entire way down... actually made 35-38 mpg the whole trip..

before i left i put some bars leak into my radiatior and i think thats what saved me... i didnt get any unusual heating... the temp gauge stayed a little bit under the halfway point the whole way down... and i stopped every hour or so to check oil and coolant... no milky oil, no missing coolant... at all actually... the coolant levels stayed the exact same.

right now im thinking the leak must not have been big at all... but not sure...
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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sigh... really having doubts on getting the dealership to pay for this... i dont see it happening... i dont know what i can possibly say to make this work...
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Just keep in mind these dealerships and most mechanics now days don't have any sort of troubleshooting skills. They're going to replace very expensive parts at your cost to get to the problem.
Hey hey.... LMAO
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Originally Posted by subinf
I must have missed the purpose of you putting the stock airbox back on. If it is to avoid further coolant leaking out then ok, that is fine. In the past it has been suggested that, if the CAI has caused any type of damage or was being blamed for causing some sort of malfunction, that the stock airbox be put back on and taken to another dealer, not disclosing the fact that a CAI was previously on the car when the problems started.
Any real tech can figure out that the intake was out for "some" reason.... I do it all day long and I am given cars with these "mysterious" problems since I get to the bottom of these odd events pretty quick. Now as most of you know I had one of the most heavily modded cars on the forum and I am not saying modding your cars is wrong by any stretch. What I do have an issue with is trying to pass off ones shortcomings on another party. I was fully aware I would be responsible for buying a new engine if mine blew up while running nitrous or whatever may have happened along the way. If I didnt think I could afford it...I wouldnt have done it. I priced out engines for my TLS before I installed the kit. If you want to play that is all well and good BUT should something happen that is directly related to a mod you did... in the case of the OP... why should American Honda pick up the slack? You arent expected to pick up the slack should something on American Hondas end fail within the agreed upon warranty period are you?
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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I have a hard time defending corporate america, but that is for another discussion board
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Hey hey.... LMAO
But you're the best...

Seriously though, you know what I mean. The ones I've run into around here I've had to hold their hand, both Nissan and Acura. Of course there are some very good ones too.
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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I misread the original post. Didn't realize the overheat was from the aftermarket CAI water hose. I'm sure you could get around this by installing a good hose and keeping the CAI on but morally I don't think you should.

Where I would pressure the dealer is going deeper into the diagnosis. Find out if you just have warped heads and a blown gasket or if you hurt the shortblock. Odds are it's just a headgasket.

On the bright side, If you have to disassemble the heads anyway, a port and polish is not that much more.
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[QUOTE=I hate cars;11888721]But you're the best...
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L M F A O haha.
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I am still wondering if he is getting the codes. I think I read that the first dealer told him his coolant was leaking into his coolant but in a PM the OP told me his coolant was still clear and didnt look like a mocha iced coffee.
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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interesting....

so i got a call today that my car was fixed and back to perfect... the thing is... apparently it wasn't a blown headgasket at all... basically all they said was causing the problem was a leak in the radiator and some loose spark plug wires causing the misfires....they replaced the radiator and erased the CEL through the computer... apparently it runs fine now, i'll check it for the symptoms whenever i go pick it up this weekend.

so the question here is, which dealership is the bigger crook.... the one who told me i had a serious problem when i didn't, trying to charge me large bucks to fix soemthing simple, or the one who knows i have a huge problem and rather just do cheap fixes to make it unnoticeable?

although, the leak in the radiator explains why i didnt see any oil in the coolant or water in the oil but found masses of coolant dissappearing earlier...
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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That is pretty weird. I'd say the first dealer just wanted money - proper diagnosis isn't always found at dealerships.
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Well if the CEL is off and it rides OK I would say its fixed, thats gotta be a relief.
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