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Old 03-21-2011, 12:35 PM
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Low pressure in brake pedal

So I push the brake pedal down and at around 50% I start to feel the brakes kick in. Last weekend I bleed the brakes and topped off the brake fluid reservoir. But it only improved very slightly. I figured there was some air in the line since the fluid was a littke bit below the max limit. My question is do I need to remove all of the old fluid from the lines and reservoir and what is the best way to go about it.
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First, my suggestion would be to rebleed the lines, and of course, get all of the old fluid out. You only need 2 bottles of fluid to do this. I think that would fix your issue.

Although you can do this yourself, it is much easier to properly bleed your brakes if you have someone else there to help you do it. If you don't want to do it yourself, go to an indy shop and pay for it.
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Thanks. I will have my brother help me
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just a heads up, it's pretty much impossible to get all of the old fluid out with just 2 bottles. I went from a disgusting black to a shade of amber. Used both bottles, have a bit left in the 2nd for emergencies and is in my trunk. didnt feel comfortable bleeding it with barely any fluid left in the bottle.

You'll get a good amount of new fluid in mixed with some of the old, but it's a lot better than just running dirty old fluid. Good luck.
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So i bought the 1qt of brake fluid from acura and went about bleeding the brakes. Just so I have this right this is what I did, take off the front drivers' side wheel then open the nipple have someone in the car push down on the pedal then close nipple and repeat. I did this to the front drivers side, front pass side, rear drivers side, then rear pass side in that order.

The pedal feel has not changed much, the color of the fluid in the reservoir went from black to light clear gray.

what am I doing wrong?
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Originally Posted by Sandals
So i bought the 1qt of brake fluid from acura and went about bleeding the brakes. Just so I have this right this is what I did, take off the front drivers' side wheel then open the nipple have someone in the car push down on the pedal then close nipple and repeat. I did this to the front drivers side, front pass side, rear drivers side, then rear pass side in that order.

The pedal feel has not changed much, the color of the fluid in the reservoir went from black to light clear gray.

what am I doing wrong?
Wrong order. F DRVR, f psnger, r psnger, r drvr. Are you MT? If so, did you bleed both outboard and inboard nipples? Read this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/brake-fluid-change-696162/

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Originally Posted by Sandals
So i bought the 1qt of brake fluid from acura and went about bleeding the brakes. Just so I have this right this is what I did, take off the front drivers' side wheel then open the nipple have someone in the car push down on the pedal then close nipple and repeat. I did this to the front drivers side, front pass side, rear drivers side, then rear pass side in that order.

The pedal feel has not changed much, the color of the fluid in the reservoir went from black to light clear gray.

what am I doing wrong?
Close the bleeder screw > pump brake pedal a few times and hold the pedal > open bleeder screw > close bleeder screw > release pedal and repeat

What kind of brake fluid are you using?
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I used oem fluid. I will try again this weekend.
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I have an automatic so I thought I only have 1 nipple.
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brakes

Brake Pedal is low and feels soft

TSB 07-041 VSA Modulator Conrol unit

its the strange box with brake lines coming out of it behind ps resorvoir
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Originally Posted by invalidalias
Brake Pedal is low and feels soft

TSB 07-041 VSA Modulator Conrol unit

its the strange box with brake lines coming out of it behind ps resorvoir
get this checked... i had this problem a few yrs ago where the VSA was faulty and pumping air into the brake lines... it was covered under warranty...

Blakura even crashed his car because of this problem when his brakes suddenly locked up mid turn...
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Need to get the vsa unit checked, and thanks for,the jnfo Kamlung, ran into a member who crashed his car because of this which was reference in another thread.
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Originally Posted by princelybug
First, my suggestion would be to rebleed the lines, and of course, get all of the old fluid out. You only need 2 bottles of fluid to do this. I think that would fix your issue.

Although you can do this yourself, it is much easier to properly bleed your brakes if you have someone else there to help you do it. If you don't want to do it yourself, go to an indy shop and pay for it.
this:


you can buy a plastic weed killer sprayer and a generic brake reservoir cap and make your own pressurized bleeder.

1. drill hole in side of container near the bottom
2. thread in a brass hose fitting
3. do the same to the cap for the brake fluid drill a hole and add a brass hose fitting
4. run hose from sprayer to cap


then you can add brake fluid to that screw the cap onto the fluid reservoir and pump it up go around to each caliper and open the bleeder until fresh fluid comes out.
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Update!

My VSA /ABS was the problem. BE SURE TO GET THE SAME YEAR AND TRANSMISSION AS YOUR CAR.
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Originally Posted by EM2typeflex
Update!

My VSA /ABS was the problem. BE SURE TO GET THE SAME YEAR AND TRANSMISSION AS YOUR CAR.
How much was the replacement? Isn't an expensive part? How did they diagnose it?
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How much was the replacement? Isn't an expensive part? How did they diagnose it?
air in the lines? cant figure out where the air is coming from??? possibly the ABS modulator.
Grab one from a junk yard; dont pay retail for it
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Originally Posted by justnspace
air in the lines? cant figure out where the air is coming from??? possibly the ABS modulator.
Grab one from a junk yard; dont pay retail for it
Replaced the ABS modulator from a junk yard. Didn't change anything unfortunately. Going to bleed again! Good god!
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Well don't just start throwing parts at it.. DId you replace brakes recently? Check all the lines and make sure the bleeder valves are closed and there's no break anywhere.
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Looks like it's time to make sure the insurance policy is up to date

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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Well don't just start throwing parts at it.. DId you replace brakes recently? Check all the lines and make sure the bleeder valves are closed and there's no break anywhere.
Modulator was the last resort. Brakes were replaced recently along with the master cylinder. No leaks
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Should I replace the master cylinder again just in case it was defective?
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