Headliner 'droops' when sunroof open?

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Old 09-24-2007 | 01:03 AM
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Headliner 'droops' when sunroof open?

Anyone else noticed this or do I have a problem with my roof? If it's normal it seems like un-needed wear/strain on the headliner clips/mounting.. when my sunroof is open the air entering the cabin is pushing down quite a bit on the sunroof and causes it it to sort of bend down - does this happen to anyone else or should I take it in?

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Old 09-24-2007 | 03:55 PM
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Hmm... I don't think you're getting much luck with responses because your post doesn't make much sense... what do you mean the sunroof is getting pushed down? How can you drive AND see the retracted sunroof at the same time? What exactly is it pushing down on? I think we're all really confused. Some pictures might help too.
Old 09-24-2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
Anyone else noticed this or do I have a problem with my roof? If it's normal it seems like un-needed wear/strain on the headliner clips/mounting.. when my sunroof is open the air entering the cabin is pushing down quite a bit on the sunroof and causes it it to sort of bend down - does this happen to anyone else or should I take it in?

Thanks!
There is a technical service bulletin on that problem.

Make : ACURA Model : TL Year : 2004
Manufacturer : HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.)
Service Bulletin Num : 04039 Date of Bulletin: NOV 12, 2004
NHTSA Item Number: 10013627
Component: STRUCTURE:BODY:ROOF AND PILLARS
Summary:
HEADLINER SAGS AT MOONROOF OPENING.
Old 09-24-2007 | 04:27 PM
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^^^ thank you.

Tim- you know better, i.e. unless this doesn't apply:

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B04-039.PDF
Old 09-24-2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ggesq
^^^ thank you.

Tim- you know better, i.e. unless this doesn't apply:

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B04-039.PDF
That looks about right - sorry; when I think of headliner sag I normally just think of the fabric not staying glued and falling away from the backing; this is like the entire roof is being forced down from the amount of air entering the vehicle

Edit: Ok.. roof is a bad way to describe it; but it's not just the fabric, it's structural backing that is also being forced down form the wind entering the car.. but the SB looks to be my cure so thank you guys
Old 09-24-2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Desert_TL
Hmm... I don't think you're getting much luck with responses because your post doesn't make much sense... what do you mean the sunroof is getting pushed down? How can you drive AND see the retracted sunroof at the same time? What exactly is it pushing down on? I think we're all really confused. Some pictures might help too.

Yeah I worded that wrong - I wrote sunroof on accident, it's the headliner sorry
Old 09-24-2007 | 05:32 PM
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Another "I'm Amazed" items, Cars have had headliners as long as I can rememebr, yet the 3G TL has some horrible setup. My 08 Type-S Headliner is a mess from factory, both front and back of sunroof partions of headliner were not attachde and the back part keeps falling down 1/2 - 1 inch every time I press it back up. Another items for dealer to check.
Old 09-24-2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
Anyone else noticed this or do I have a problem with my roof? If it's normal it seems like un-needed wear/strain on the headliner clips/mounting.. when my sunroof is open the air entering the cabin is pushing down quite a bit on the sunroof and causes it it to sort of bend down - does this happen to anyone else or should I take it in?

Thanks!
When i got my 07 type s tl last october,my headliner dipped in the middle also. The dealer said it was a problem with the glue they use on the velcro that holds the headliner to the roof of the car. they reglued and it was as good as new
Old 09-24-2007 | 06:36 PM
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Yeah the TSB says to reglue new pads; but if the pads on the headliner are broken they will replace the entire headliner
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