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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Engine FLooded

I was driving last night in a flooded area on accident and water seemed to swoop up into the cold air intake and the engine seized, im screwd, life sux, what sould I do hahaha please help!
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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call the insurance and try to suck some of the water out of the cylinders threw the spark plug holes (dont know if it will work but its worth a try.)
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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hey man dont worry...i think i killed my engine too:-) actually i shouldnt be smiling:-(
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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I hope my egine isnt killed, ill b so mad !
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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I think you might have hydrolocked... it's game over bro..
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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hmm, i beleive you can try to suck that water out the spark plug holes, and ive also heard of cranking the engine without the plugs in an dletting the water shoot out, but i wouldnt recommend the latter
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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remove spark plugs and crank...11:1 compression motor will blow most of it out..it would help to take the top of the intake manifold off and make sure there isnt any water there....spray a lot of carb clean/intake man. cleaner in the manifold to dry up any left over water...this will not hurt your motor to have the top of the man. open unless you have the plugs in....i would try everything you could...worst come to worst you harm a already blown up motor...
ps:ill give you $300 for the longblock right now!
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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i can drain all the oil out, put new oil in, let it run a a little, then ddrain it out, then do the same thing again. Make it 3 or 4 time.(buy cheap oil) . It happned to me last year, they do the same thing and my car was fine.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 12:34 AM
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you can drain all the oil out, put new oil in, let it runs a a little, then drain the oil out, then do the same thing again. Make it 3 or 4 times.(buy cheap oil) . It happned to me last year, they did the same thing and my car was fine.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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crazy where were u in chicago? I was going home from work by downers grove and it was late at night and pretty dark. I slowly went through flooded road after flooded road, and right before I get home I roared through one by accident. It was almost as high as the rim of my wheel at the deepest point. Didn't even know the road was that flooded because it was so dark.

I'm thankful for my custom icebox intake, because it's night's like the other night where a traditional CAI would have killed my car too. Hydrolock is real and sucks when it happens. My friend hydrolocked his car and the water wasn't even that high from what I heard. I hope nothing got bent in your engine.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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damn don't they have flood lights arund ur area, like those lights that light up the road but they are liked yellowish, nyc thankfully puts those crappy ass lighs up, and they crappy ass drainage system sometimes sucks ass...

above members have definitely suggested everything I would've written, best of luck... it is a honda motor it will survive

ps. My boys car had water above the fenders, he let the water reside and did what has been suggested.... 65k miles later and his integra is still going strong
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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I am likin what im hearing, i hope its not hydroblocked, i hope its somethin very minor lol, the dealer wants 125$ an hour just to take a look @ it... thats OUTRAGEOUS
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Once the motor seized, did you try to start it? If so, you may have already damaged it. If not, you may be in luck. Take the spark plugs out, drain the oil and put in new oil. First try using a vacum to suck any water out of the motor through the spark plug holes and also dry the air filter if wet. Once you do that, crank the motor and any left over water will shoot out. Put a set of NEW plugs in and add Seafoam to new oil after draining it again and also add a can to your fuel. The car should run fine then. About 100 miles later, change the oil out again as the seafoam will kill oil quickly.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
Once the motor seized, did you try to start it? If so, you may have already damaged it. If not, you may be in luck. Take the spark plugs out, drain the oil and put in new oil. First try using a vacum to suck any water out of the motor through the spark plug holes and also dry the air filter if wet. Once you do that, crank the motor and any left over water will shoot out. Put a set of NEW plugs in and add Seafoam to new oil after draining it again and also add a can to your fuel. The car should run fine then. About 100 miles later, change the oil out again as the seafoam will kill oil quickly.
ditto

if you tried to crank it a couple of times after it siezed, your screwed.... not to get into the whole phsyics behind this, but basically... water cant be compressed. So when it gets into the cylinder, and the pistons try to compress, they basically snap and break off... Air & Fuel can be compressed under high pressure.. water does not ...

FYI, pay the $125 for a quick look or so.. then talk to your insurance company. I dont see why they would total it out... a new block is a couple grand, so you pay your deductible, and they should replace it.. hell, you could get a new engine out of this.. maybe slip a couple hundred to the dealer/repair shop for a J35 block instead
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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Most times, the engine is trash.
My sister had that happen two years ago on her taurus, which had a real low air intake, since she was idling through a deep spot, I thought she would be ok, but
I went to the tow place, and with the plugs out could not turn the crank with a 3 foot breaker bar. Locked up solid, the car was a write off but they gave her a load of cash for it!

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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Like it has been said already, pull the plugs and the upper intake and crank it over, after you change the oil. I have seen cars that were submerged come back to life after a very careful cleaning out (pumping water out and a few oil changes). Those cars were actually submerged and not running however.

If it does crank over with the plugs out you may be in luck. If you do happen to get it started, let it run for a very short time and change the oil. Run it again and change the oil again. The oil should not have a milky color to it, if it does, change it again. Hopefully you didn't bend a rod when/if it hydrolocked. Not sure if insurance will do much for you given you have a CAI. Good Luck.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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acura says I did 10,000$ in damage to the automobile..

i drove threw a fucking puddle... i dont know if im believin this shit
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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No way 10 grand. What did they say was the extent of the damages? If it took out the bottom end of the motor and maybe a valve or two, I would find an independent shop that can transplant a different engine in your car. I would think you could do this for at least half what the Acura tools quoted you. The stealership is just going to get a remanded engine and put it in. You can located one and have the indi shop put it in.

Get a detailed report from the dealer and let us know what they have to say. I'm curious now. I doubt you drove through "a puddle" to suck in enough water to hydrolock your engine. I had the equivlant to a CIA on my 4 wheeler and it rendered it useless in any amount of water. In fact that thing drank water and never locked up. Is there a part of the story you are leaving out? (not accusing, it just seems strange).
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Damn!!! I came back hoping to read some good news on your car not $250 CAI results in $10,000 damage.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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If you get much water into the engine when its running, it usualy bends up all the connecting rods, so the motor is trash, although the head might make it.

I would total the car, transplanting an engine would be a job in itself, what with all the stuff that hangs off it (ac system, electrical, power steering, zillions of electrical connections), a loose connection or loose bolt can cause problems, all the hoses, mounts, wires, have to be mounted/routed correctly if you are not going to have problems down the road.

Most manufacturers take great care to put the air intake where a lot of water
can not get to it easy. I tend to think cold air intakes belong on the track, along with large (expensive) wheels with low profile tires, that stuff tends not to work well in the real world...

Brett
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettg
If you get much water into the engine when its running, it usualy bends up all the connecting rods, so the motor is trash, although the head might make it.

I would total the car, transplanting an engine would be a job in itself, what with all the stuff that hangs off it (ac system, electrical, power steering, zillions of electrical connections), a loose connection or loose bolt can cause problems, all the hoses, mounts, wires, have to be mounted/routed correctly if you are not going to have problems down the road.

Most manufacturers take great care to put the air intake where a lot of water
can not get to it easy. I tend to think cold air intakes belong on the track, along with large (expensive) wheels with low profile tires, that stuff tends not to work well in the real world...

Brett
I'm sure the combustion chambers are tiny in these heads, so not much water needed to lock it up and bend the rods. I would still think it is cheaper to swap engines. Yeah it's a big job, but not even close to impossible. I would tackle it myself if I had a manual and a lot of time. Get a quote from an indie shop and see if it makes sense. The car is not junk, just the engine (probably just the short block for that matter). Why junk the entire car??
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Never getting a CAI, not worth the risk.. and we see a ton of rain during the wetter season.

GL !
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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I don't want ot junk the entier car, ive put about 6 grand into it, I want to keep it going, i love this car lol we r talking to insurance
if acura installed a new engine, do you think they would do ap erfect job 95% of the time?
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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They will pull the bad engine and put in a different one. Will it be "perfect"? That's impossible to answer other than saying what is actually perfect? I would make sure that you and the service manager go through your car and do an inventory of any flaws and scratches (like you do with a rental car) and then do the same thing when you pick it up. Make sure it's understood that any additional damage will be covered by acura (dents or scratches to the body). The engine install should have it's own warranty (the labor, probably not the parts since it won't be a new/rebuilt engine in all likelyhood). The dealership will make your car right again, you just have to make them play by your rules. Don't just hand them the keys and have them call you when it's done.
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