hayawan2

In the last couple of month my MID as well as the Nav screen displays an error message. It states To check the fuel cap and retighten it. The message will stay on for a couple of days then would go away. It has happened about 3 - 4 times in the last couple of months. I always tighten the gas cap until it clicks several times (6-7 clicks) after refueling. Does anyone know if there are any issues with the gas cap before I take it back to the dealer? I have an 07 TL type S.

Thanks,

h.

csmeance

I know a few members with TL-S's were having problems like yours and the dealers had to replace the fuel pipe because of some manufacturing defect. Check this TSB and see if it applies:

http://www.in.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B09-056.pdf

1islandparadise

Yes yes and yes....I had the same on my 07 TL-S and its a very common problem for us. Take it to the dealer. It took 3 tries for me but they finally replaced some "fuel check valve" thing, something. Anyways the acura mechanic had to call higher up and seen this was a very common problem for the 07-08 Type S.

mm492433

Yea had the same problem on my 07 type-s, went to the dealer and they replaced a sensor and i haven't had a problem since. The service manager said this is a very common problem with this year and model. I suggest you do the same.

VQPower37

i have also started having this problem on my 07 type s but my car has 63k on it ... so i am probably going to have to pay to have this sensor replaced im assuming?

Waltah

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it does it randomly on my 07 tl-s, hasnt bugged me to the point where ill be taking to the dealer yet though.

R33kTLs

+1. Mines pops up right after I fill up. I'll eventually take it in.

Waltah

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glad im not the only one.

honestly, i thought it was cool when the car started "talking" to me telling me to tighten my fuel cap after i parked. had a buddy in my car and he about shit himself in disbelief. needless to say he loves my tl

ggesq

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Try and sweet talking the dealer to do a good will repair on it.

hayawan2

Tried to access the link you provided for the TSB "http://www.in.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B09-056.pdf", came back with an error message saying "Link Deny"..."The link you requested was denied by Link Deny, Go back or home". Tried Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer 8 and didn't work. Any ideas?

Crucial_D

Have the same message on my 2009 TL Tech. In fact, it popped up on my first test drive the day I purchased the vehicle. I always tighten my fuel cap several clicks after refueling...so it may well be some sort of sensor. I have about 22,000 miles on my car, so warranty should cover it.

Will Y.

If it's part of the major emissions system, then the extended emissions control warranty applies-- 8 years/80K, IIRC.

wraithvr442

I just had mine in for the valve replacement on my 2007 type s

VQPower37

ok thank you for the info sir ...

blacktsx05

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this pops up at least once a week for me but im going to take it to my local honda dealer because i use to work in sales there so i can get a demo from them...also my acura dealer is an hour away. is there a print out of the recall that i can bring to them so they know what to fix?

hayawan2

how many miles on your type S?

cfv22

you need to replace the purge control valve (PVC) Very easy...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...&highlight=pvc

cfv22

PCV sorry...

cfv22

here is some "lite" reading for you...
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...check+fuel+cap

hayawan2

Thank you, I took it to my dealer and they replaced the purge control valve without any hassle under warranty. 1st attempt. Received excellent service from Tustin Acura.

Thanks to all for the replies.

h.

NEWireless

I had the EVAP canister purge valve service done today on my '08 TL-S. The dealer said it wasn't part of the emission system under warranty despite the fact that the SB says that the bad valve "causes the PCM on-board diagnostics for the evaporative emissions to fail."

However, they did say it was a 'known issue' and replaced the valve for free.

WhiteBB2

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This just happened to me today...The "Check Fuel Cap" msg popped up. I took the cap off, retightened it and its still on!

I guess I will drive around a little and see if it fixes itself...

WhiteBB2

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If this is the fix, I can order this tonight from RockAuto.com for $5.25 shipped.

Anyone verify this?

jimmyl

Did you replace the PCV? Did this fix your issue?
Had this pop up today.......

hayawan2

Yes, Replaced PCV at the dealer. Problem has not re-occurred since July of last year.

Waltah

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mine went away and hasnt come back.

LazLong

Short version:

Love this place. You guys greatly reduced the amount of grief I suffered with a '07 TL NAV/AT I bought from Capitol Chevrolet of San Jose, CA when the 'gas cap' warning light came on while driving the car home immediately after my purchase. While the sales department had no problem with fixing the vehicle, the service department hasn't shown much skill in diagnosing and repairing an intermittent problem. Without your pointers as to what the most likely problem is, I'd probably be screwed. Thanx a bunch.


Detailed version:

Love this place. I just bought an '07 TL NAV/AT to replace my demon-possessed '05 TL 6MT, but that's another story. No more than a mile into my journey home from the Chevy dealer from whom I purchased the car the check gas cap popped up on the NAV display. I pulled over, checked it and retightened it. That the message persisted wasn't a big worry because it can take a while to clear. On my way home I filled the tank and was pleased to have the message not reappear....Until the next day. I had to drive back to the dealer to pick up my other car so while I was there I notified the salesman who sold me the car and was told he'd talk to his manager and not to worry they'd fix the problem. Subsequently I was told to take the car to their service department to determine what needs to be done to correct the problem, and that they'd take care of it.

Unfortunately the group that owns the dealership doesn't also own an Acura or even a Honda dealership so of course they were completely clueless. The service writer calls me up late the next day to say they pressure-tested the tank and cleared the message and it didn't come back after restarting it a couple of times. They also said that the car wasn't showing any diagnostic codes, which I was surprised to hear and frankly suspicious about. It made/makes no sense to me that the on-board diagnostics would trip w/o also producing a DTC. As far as the service writer was concerned the car was 'fixed.' This set me off of course; evidently they had never experienced an intermittent problem as I had explained the intermittency of the issue, that I had checked the gas cap a couple of times, etc. I suggested that she get permission to send it to an Acura dealer as they evidently didn't have the experience to deal with the problem.

My next stop was Google which, not for the first time, led me to Acurazine. I got a copy of the TSB and faxed it to them hoping that would clear up the matter, especially as it was a simple fix. I must have been dreaming. I hadn't heard anything by 1pm the following day so I called to check the status. The service writer told me that she called some Acura dealer to verify the TSB I sent them (I guess to make sure I hadn't Photoshopped it), and that the Acura dealer was able to verify the TSB but that it wasn't a problem they ran across very often. Yeah, right. That's why there is a TSB that covers it. Then the service writer told me she'd have to discuss the situation with both the service and used sales managers and would get back to me. This happened the next day, day three, at 12:30pm. I was told they had ordered the part but wouldn't be able to complete the repair until Monday, and she asked what I wanted to do with the car. I told them to keep it as I had two other cars, including my demon-possessed '05 TL.

So now I wait, and I should hopefully have everything squared away by Monday. Fun, fun, fun. I must say that the sales department has been very good about this, especially for a car that they weren't making much off of.

Thanx for the great info guys. While it wasn't provided to me specifically, it was nice to see how so many people have helped those with this problem in the past on Acurazine. Nice community you have here.

Waltah

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mine came back, got it fixed at local acura dealer. no issues since.

blacktsi

I have the same problems with my TL base! Just checked alldata it is a TSB for a evap canister purge valve! Easy fix its near the throttle body.

December 11, 2009
Applies To:
2007-08 TL - ALL

Fuel Cap Warning Message Is On Without DTCs
SYMPTOM
A TIGHTEN FUEL CAP message appears on the MID (multi-information display) without setting any Pending or Confirmed DTCs.
PROBABLE CAUSE
An intermittent fault in the EVAP canister purge valve causes the PCM on-board diagnostics for the evaporative emissions to fail.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Replace the EVAP canister purge valve.
PARTS INFORMATION
EVAP Canister Purge Valve:P/N 36162-RDV-J01

kevin2488

you need a purge selinoid bulletin for this I did 1 3 weeks ago easy fix replace selinois & update the pcm

blacktsi

Y do u have to update the pcm? Its just replacing pvc solenoid.

Rick_TL-S

+1.

It eventually turns itself off after a while, anyway.

Twilly

The folks that are having a problem with "Tighten Fuel Cap" message - when refueling the car do you always re-fill the tank completely at gas stops? Do you try to "top it off" completely or stop when the gas station pump stops?

Just doing some fact-finding.....

Steven Bell

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I just had this fixed under warranty. They said it was a relay that needed to be replaced.