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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 08:46 AM
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Check Engine Light Flashing

My check engine light is flashing and it shakes a little bit , every mechanic seems to be no help ..
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 09:51 AM
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Go get your code read at a local auto store
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 10:02 AM
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3G what type, age, mileage,
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 10:03 AM
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misfire. and find better mechanics. Any mechanic worth their weight will have a scanner.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GhostTL09
3G what type, age, mileage,
I have a 05 Tl with 138 mileage
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 10:06 AM
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misfire. and find better mechanics. Any mechanic worth their weight will have a scanner.
thanks I'll keep that in mind while searching.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 10:06 AM
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Go get your code read at a local auto store
On my way to one now
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 10:46 AM
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MOD EDIT: Changed your title to something useful so people can help.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 11:16 AM
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Upset

Pep boys says the coolant is mixing with the oil giving it internal engine issues.......
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 11:59 AM
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Sounds like a blown head gasket.

I don't pretend to be a mechanical genius, but I'm not certain how any of the sensors would even know that oil and coolant were mixing, unless a significant amount were entering the cylinders and causing misfires.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:03 PM
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Sounds like a blown head gasket.

I don't pretend to be a mechanical genius, but I'm not certain how any of the sensors would even know that oil and coolant were mixing, unless a significant amount were entering the cylinders and causing misfires.
It's weird because, many times before this even happened I've tried getting a diagnostic and every time,they would tell me the codes wouldn't read smh so now for this to start upsets me.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:14 PM
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I think losiglow was trying to get at....How did pepboys know coolant is mixing with oil?
what was the exact code the engine threw?
because there are no codes that say "coolant is mixing with oil"
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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I think losiglow was trying to get at....How did pepboys know coolant is mixing with oil?
what was the exact code the engine threw?
because there are no codes that say "coolant is mixing with oil"
He said someone wiped the codes before them so the only definitive code was cylinder 5 misfire but then he said these other things came up 4 codes oxygen sensors
3/4 evap code
2 EGR valve system codes plus a catalytic code
I gues he explained it this way since I'm a woman and he probably figured I wouldn't understand them anyway
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:36 PM
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Woof. That's a lot of codes. Lots of emissions based codes which I'm guessing could be triggered by oil and/or coolant in the cylinders. Did the say what they think is wrong? I mean, why coolant and oil are mixing? Head gasket, damaged cylinder head and a damaged block are all possibilities. Did you overheat it recently?
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:42 PM
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Woof. That's a lot of codes. Lots of emissions based codes which I'm guessing could be triggered by oil and/or coolant in the cylinders. Did the say what they think is wrong? I mean, why coolant and oil are mixing? Head gasket, damaged cylinder head and a damaged block are all possibilities. Did you overheat it recently?
😣😣 recently the coolant tank cap had to be replaced, didn't know it was pretty much broken off, also I do take 2 hour drives other than that I'm not sure
as far as pep boys he was more focused on the gasket just telling me I need a new engine
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Etime


😣😣 recently the coolant tank cap had to be replaced, didn't know it was pretty much broken off, also I do take 2 hour drives other than that I'm not sure
as far as pep boys he was more focused on the gasket just telling me I need a new engine
i apologize if I'm not making any sense but I'm just confused wondering why hasn't these codes come up before the worst possible damage happend,
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:47 PM
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Now, we're getting somewhere!!
a basic engine requires air, fuel and spark.

the 4 oxygen sensors tell the engine's computer how much fuel to mix in.
I would start there. I would replace the bad 02 sensors with new OEM ones. (if they are indeed bad.)
next, i would inspect the EGR valve to make sure it isn't clogged with debris.

and finally; inspect the catalytic converter to make sure it hasn't failed. (only use 91+ grade of fuel)

if not handy, a mechanic would have to check these things out for you.


(i dont know how pepboys came up with the coolant mixing with oil...perhaps the exhaust is emitting white smoke?)
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 12:52 PM
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it could even be a bad spark plug or it's coilpack
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
Now, we're getting somewhere!!
a basic engine requires air, fuel and spark.

the 4 oxygen sensors tell the engine's computer how much fuel to mix in.
I would start there. I would replace the bad 02 sensors with new OEM ones. (if they are indeed bad.)
next, i would inspect the EGR valve to make sure it isn't clogged with debris.

and finally; inspect the catalytic converter to make sure it hasn't failed. (only use 91+ grade of fuel)

if not handy, a mechanic would have to check these things out for you.


(i dont know how pepboys came up with the coolant mixing with oil...perhaps the exhaust is emitting white smoke?)
this is the BEST information I've gotten about my car , I'm trying to get a mechanic to come to me now
I haven't seen white smoke when I press the gas but I smell something when I step out of the car.
also I would hope it's as small as the plug or coil that would make my whole week. Now I can speak to a mechanic knowing what I'm talking about. Highly appreciate you.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 01:06 PM
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what does the odor smell like? sweet? or does it smell like sulfer, rotten eggs?
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 01:18 PM
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what does the odor smell like? sweet? or does it smell like sulfer, rotten eggs?
yes it has this gassy metal kind of like smell
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 01:23 PM
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that's the catalytic converter... the symptoms also fall in line with what the codes are telling us.

if you had said "Sweet smelling", that would indicate coolant.
I'm confident the pepboy didnt know what he was talking about.


you'll need to get with a mechanic to sort out these emissions issues...
the cat is failing and sending wonky info to the 02 sensors.
this could be caused by using bad fuel. be sure to use 91+ grade of fuel.

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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 02:13 PM
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as far as pep boys he was more focused on the gasket just telling me I need a new engine
how did they determine coolant was mixing with oil? what did they actually check/see? the codes so far aren't enough.

write it down word for word and post back.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
that's the catalytic converter... the symptoms also fall in line with what the codes are telling us.

if you had said "Sweet smelling", that would indicate coolant.
I'm confident the pepboy didnt know what he was talking about.


you'll need to get with a mechanic to sort out these emissions issues...
the cat is failing and sending wonky info to the 02 sensors.
this could be caused by using bad fuel. be sure to use 91+ grade of fuel.
sheesh , so with the cat failing should I change that first or should I still work in the order you gave me prior
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 03:02 PM
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You have to find out which cat is toast. More than likely the 3rd cat under the car.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 06:03 PM
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You have to find out which cat is toast. More than likely the 3rd cat under the car.
Hi how would I find that out?
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 07:47 PM
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Etime. Check the oil via the dip stick, if it looks like chocolate milk then you have confirmed coolant is mixing with oil which would most likely be a bad head gasket. I have not heard of many headgasket failures at that milage. Assuming car is well cared for. I'm thinking catilitic failure as someone had posted. You have come to the right place to aid you in getting correct info. I don't trust pepboys as far as I can throw them. Half of the so called techs there are young with almost no knowledge. I wouldn't even let them change my oil. At least here in S.Fl. I don't usually bad mouth a business. I mean no disrespect to anyone on this forum if they work for that Corp.
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