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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 10:57 AM
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Advice on AT trans

I just posted my new member post on my 07 type s! It is an AT with 160k miles on it and babied the whole life. I have always been weary of Honda AT’s but was able to get 250k out of my 04 j30 accord before I started having issues and those are minor at that (still driving as daily).

There are two things I would like to cover to extend the life of my S as much as possible.

First, what would be the best preventative maintenance to go ahead and perform. What are ways to ensure a decent life out of the trans, and I mean that as in operation. I of course know not to shift from R to D while moving, and the previous owner always put in N, applied the hand brakeC, and then put in P. So the basic stuff I know, maybe you guys have some other tips and tricks to help be easy on the trans. I do not plan to run this thing hard. Of course the occasional pull but I’m trying to be easy and keep this S in shape.

Second, now this is controversial to some but mainly i would like all of your opinion, I have thought about buying a lower mileage used trans and going ahead and swapping as soon as possible. I have managed to find some as low as 60k and 50k. My issue is find what’s legitimate and what’s not, and finding the right resources to purchase from. Any advice on swapping used trans and opinions is highly appreciated. I’ve also been reading a ton on the AT trans in this year model and have read that the 07-08 models had stronger AT’s than previous years. Is this correct?

Thanks guys! Apologize in advance if I’m posting this in the wrong place or wording anything wrong. Fresh on the forums!
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not sure if you could use the AV6(accord) tranny for the type-s. but if that's something you're willing to do(granted it fits/works) but if your current tranny isnt displaying any problems...WHY change out the tranny? waste of money..and time.

the best preventive maintenance is to change the fluid...often. so to always have fresh fluid. the best way to change fluid is the 3x3x3 method...or drain 3qts, fill 3 qts, 3 times
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AV6 won't fit on Type S engine


https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...2008-a-840630/

Just do your pressure switch maintenance and replace fresh fluid often, the Type S trans is very stout and won't run into the issues the older transmissions have (04-06)
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agreed; change out pressure switches and keep fluid fresh. and you will have a long living tranny.
perhaps one could look into a tranny cooler as well. as HEAT is the killer of all things
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
not sure if you could use the AV6(accord) tranny for the type-s. but if that's something you're willing to do(granted it fits/works) but if your current tranny isnt displaying any problems...WHY change out the tranny? waste of money..and time.

the best preventive maintenance is to change the fluid...often. so to always have fresh fluid. the best way to change fluid is the 3x3x3 method...or drain 3qts, fill 3 qts, 3 times
You have a great point. I’m get anxious with autos in general. I just need to quit worrying. I’ve seen the 3x3x3 method. How often should I do this method? I’m picking the car up today, should I go ahead and have the fluid checked, or do a three quart drain?

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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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agreed; change out pressure switches and keep fluid fresh. and you will have a long living tranny.
perhaps one could look into a tranny cooler as well. as HEAT is the killer of all things

ive seen posts about the pressure switches, is this something I can do myself, and how many are there?
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
AV6 won't fit on Type S engine


https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...2008-a-840630/

Just do your pressure switch maintenance and replace fresh fluid often, the Type S trans is very stout and won't run into the issues the older transmissions have (04-06)
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ive seen posts about the pressure switches, is this something I can do myself, and how many are there?
reading > you.
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
AV6 won't fit on Type S engine


https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...2008-a-840630/

Just do your pressure switch maintenance and replace fresh fluid often, the Type S trans is very stout and won't run into the issues the older transmissions have (04-06)

thats what I’ve heard, the 07 S auto trans is pretty beefy and reliable compared to older models.
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Double_Wide_Suprise
You have a great point. I’m get anxious with autos in general. I just need to quit worrying. I’ve seen the 3x3x3 method. How often should I do this method? I’m picking the car up today, should I go ahead and have the fluid checked, or do a three quart drain?

thanks!
you havent even got the car yet!!
if you're willing to work on the car right away, then yes....change out all fluids...
That's what I do whenever I buy a used car.. change out all fluids...
coolant, brake fluid, oil, tranny fluid. and any other fluid im missing.

this way; I get to know the car by physically touching it and finding out it's quirks. 2nd, you'll have peace of mind that all the fluids are new
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Old Aug 13, 2020 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
reading > you.

Trying my best over here.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
not sure if you could use the AV6(accord) tranny for the type-s. but if that's something you're willing to do(granted it fits/works) but if your current tranny isnt displaying any problems...WHY change out the tranny? waste of money..and time.

the best preventive maintenance is to change the fluid...often. so to always have fresh fluid. the best way to change fluid is the 3x3x3 method...or drain 3qts, fill 3 qts, 3 times
the type s gets an extra cooler for the trans. It ain’t much much but if you’re not beating on the car then it’s just fine as the base model 07 and 08 trans seem to last forever and they have less cooling.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbym
the type s gets an extra cooler for the trans. It ain’t much much but if you’re not beating on the car then it’s just fine as the base model 07 and 08 trans seem to last forever and they have less cooling.

One of the guys suggested adding another cooler/bigger cooler. Could you possibly link me to one? I might install one in the future.
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Old Aug 14, 2020 | 12:32 PM
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Hayden makes a good cooler. I have a tube and fin style one on my accord v6 that is 15 inch by 5 inch. I would go with a bigger one than that for the tl and get a plate and fin style. Just look around on amazon at Hayden ones and go out to your car and see where you could fit it.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 06:20 AM
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Transmission fluid changing.

Hey guys, so after finding out about preventative maintenance for my 07 type s, I plan on doing a pressure sensor replace in the next two weeks for basically cheap insurance and to keep the gears running smooth.

My question is bout fluid changing. I have a hard time understanding the process of this. I keep seeing the “3x3x3” method. I halfway understand this but could someone go a little more in depth?

I know par of it is drain three, add three. But my question is when do you all change trans fluid? What intervals? I’m going to check tonight when I get home to check the last time it was changed by the previous owner (which he has) and come back to post. But as I said I just want to understand the changing process and when to change.

plus could anyone give me a basic summary of the “beefed” up parts in the 07 S AT trans? I keep reading that it’s built more to withstand more power but am curious as to which parts are strengthened. Thanks.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 08:01 AM
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Google search for AZ is your friend. The 3x3 topic has been beaten to death.... Hell I even had a write up regarding pressure switches.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 08:43 AM
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some people change the tranny fluid every oil change, so about 6-7k miles.. some people wait till their tranny is showing symptoms...some people change it in the middle of these two.

there is no set rule....

also, the tranny isnt set up for more power...it's just more robust with an added tranny cooler. Heat is the killer of all things.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Double_Wide_Suprise
Hey guys, so after finding out about preventative maintenance for my 07 type s, I plan on doing a pressure sensor replace in the next two weeks for basically cheap insurance and to keep the gears running smooth.

My question is bout fluid changing. I have a hard time understanding the process of this. I keep seeing the “3x3x3” method. I halfway understand this but could someone go a little more in depth?

I know par of it is drain three, add three. But my question is when do you all change trans fluid? What intervals? I’m going to check tonight when I get home to check the last time it was changed by the previous owner (which he has) and come back to post. But as I said I just want to understand the changing process and when to change.

plus could anyone give me a basic summary of the “beefed” up parts in the 07 S AT trans? I keep reading that it’s built more to withstand more power but am curious as to which parts are strengthened. Thanks.
what is AZ?
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
not sure if you could use the AV6(accord) tranny for the type-s. but if that's something you're willing to do(granted it fits/works) but if your current tranny isnt displaying any problems...WHY change out the tranny? waste of money..and time.

the best preventive maintenance is to change the fluid...often. so to always have fresh fluid. the best way to change fluid is the 3x3x3 method...or drain 3qts, fill 3 qts, 3 times
so I’ve been looking all over for a more in depth explanation on the 3x3x3 method. If I’m correct do you mean, drain 3, fill three, and do that 3 times at once or: drain 3, fill 3, drive for a certain amount of miles THEN do the process again till this is complete three times? Just trying not o get a clear explanation on this.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by truonghthe
Google search for AZ is your friend. The 3x3 topic has been beaten to death.... Hell I even had a write up regarding pressure switches.
my hats my problem, I can’t find an in-depth explanation, so drain 3, fill 3, and repeat that all in the same setting? Or drain 3, fill three, drive a certain amount of miles, then repeat process three times over? Just trying to find a clear answer for This. No avail.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 10:54 AM
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Merging your threads. No point creating new ones for the same transmission questions...


just drain and refill 3 quarts of ATF every oil change and after 3 times, you’ll have fresh fluid.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Double_Wide_Suprise
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Merging your threads. No point creating new ones for the same transmission questions...


just drain and refill 3 quarts of ATF every oil change and after 3 times, you’ll have fresh fluid.
thank you, I’m still figuring out how to work the forums so bare with me. I appreciate the info. On that note should I stick with OEM fluid? And I know people have their intervals in Changing fluid, but in YOUR opinion, how often should I be changing? Mileage wise.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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@Double_Wide_Suprise, I kind of get the feeling you are way overthinking the issue; when you get the car, drain and replace all of the fluids, and do the tranny three times. As for the ATF, use Honda/Acura DW-1 and nothing else.
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yes, OEM fluid.

you'll have to figure out an interval that works for YOU.
Some change it every oil change...
some wait till it shows symptoms of bad fluid.
and some do it in the middle of these two.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
@Double_Wide_Suprise, I kind of get the feeling you are way overthinking the issue; when you get the car, drain and replace all of the fluids, and do the tranny three times. As for the ATF, use Honda/Acura DW-1 and nothing else.

i get it seems that way. I’m just trying to get clear answers. Just trying to take care of it as best as possible. I appreciate the response. Since on the topic I’m about to do an oil change soon, of course I’m going to go with synthetic. Having trouble finding a clear answer on that as well, what synthetic. Is being commonly used for the S’s?
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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oil is oil is oil.
doesnt matter the brand or if full synthetic or a blend....as long as you change out the oil on a regular basis...(often times people go by the MID which is around 6-7k miles)
thus why some people change out the tranny fluid as well, during an oil change...because it's a regular interval....
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Double_Wide_Suprise
i get it seems that way. I’m just trying to get clear answers. Just trying to take care of it as best as possible. I appreciate the response. Since on the topic I’m about to do an oil change soon, of course I’m going to go with synthetic. Having trouble finding a clear answer on that as well, what synthetic. Is being commonly used for the S’s?
Oil is like religion; use the brand you worship most. In the end it, assuming you A) use a good quality conventional oil and change it frequently, or B) use a good quality synthetic oil and change it at least every 10,000 miles, the engine will most likely outlast the rest of the car.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
oil is oil is oil.
doesnt matter the brand or if full synthetic or a blend....as long as you change out the oil on a regular basis...(often times people go by the MID which is around 6-7k miles)


Originally Posted by horseshoez
Oil is like religion; use the brand you worship most. In the end it, assuming you A) use a good quality conventional oil and change it frequently, or B) use a good quality synthetic oil and change it at least every 10,000 miles, the engine will most likely outlast the rest of the car.
All truths....some people here swear by the fancy expensive stuff, some use what ever is on sale, some use the Wal-Mart branded oil. And some of us have no idea what is in there...it is just what the dealer puts in it. These engines are not hard on oil for the most part and just need basic regular maintenance done.

Keep your oil simple...keep your transmission fluid OE (actually applies to just about all other fluids in the car).
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Except washer fluid and for me, brake fluid.. DOT4 is DOT 4 for me
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Yeah, and I always use Acura branded Blinker Fluid.
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I have about 4 or 5 cars that gets their oil changed at my house...mostly family cars and S/O's cars..
this leaves me with many many different brands of oils and often times I just consolidate the many many many bottles into one. like a gumbo.
(the one constant; mostly we buy 5w-30, so most of the time it's the same viscosity but just different brands and different blends)
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Tranny fluid stick to either ZW-1, or some people recommend Redline, but I've never investigated that one myself.

Oil.... Use whatever, just maybe not the dollar store brand, but at this point, it may work just fine.

I just get mine done at the dealer because they only charge me $40, and the oil, filter and washer would cost me about $25-$30, so I'm just paying $10-15 to not have to get all hot and sweaty.
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Tranny fluid stick to either ZW-1, or some people recommend Redline, but I've never investigated that one myself.

Oil.... Use whatever, just maybe not the dollar store brand, but at this point, it may work just fine.

I just get mine done at the dealer because they only charge me $40, and the oil, filter and washer would cost me about $25-$30, so I'm just paying $10-15 to not have to get all hot and sweaty.
Ummm, no, there is not, and never has been any such a thing as ZW-1; Honda used to have an ATF-Z1 standard, long since out of production, and now replaced with the Honda DW-1 standard.

As for Redline, just say "NO", it is not DW-1 compatible from a Coefficient of Friction perspective, and WILL result in premature transmission wear.
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Ummm, no, there is not, and never has been any such a thing as ZW-1; Honda used to have an ATF-Z1 standard, long since out of production, and now replaced with the Honda DW-1 standard.

As for Redline, just say "NO", it is not DW-1 compatible from a Coefficient of Friction perspective, and WILL result in premature transmission wear.

Ah. DW-1... I keep calling it ZW-1... Thanks for correcting me.

Yeah, I'd be weary of using Redline fluid too. Some swear by it, but I feel like the OEM fluid performs fine for me, plus, I know I can trust it in my transmission!
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MM must be on that drug again
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Unfortunately, not drugs, he's just trying to fit in by improperly regurgitating bad information..
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