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my axles needed replacing so Saturday afternoon I started working on them. Drivers side went fine. Got it all done.
Passenger side I de I could not finish. The axle was stuck on the hub and I did not have proper tools. Proper tools = Slide hammer kit.) So I put it back together and ordered the tools, which will be here tomorrow.
I was headed to the to the grocery store yesterday and decided to take the TLs to make sure everything worked properly (Grocery store is down the block.)
i went to make a right turn at the light light and I hear a pop and the car would not go anywhere. It just revd. I was not getting on it or driving hard due to it being a test drive. Some transmission fluid was on the road. Everything seemed fine. The axles were still in place. But no car will not go into any gear. I put it in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and reverse. Let of the clutch and nothing happens. No stall, but it will rev. I am completely locked out of 5th gear.
The transmission was rebuilt and the clutch was replaced 9k miles ago from The previous owner.
What could be causing me to be locked out of 5th gear?
could me pulling the axles out cause any sort of damage to the transmission?
Passenger side I de I could not finish. The axle was stuck on the hub and I did not have proper tools. Proper tools = Slide hammer kit.) So I put it back together and ordered the tools, which will be here tomorrow.
Just to clarify, when you say the passenger side 'axle was stuck on the hub' do you mean the inboard side was 'stuck' on the intermediate shaft or the outboard side was 'stuck' in the knuckle??
Originally Posted by AdiosPantalones
i went to make a right turn at the light light and I hear a pop and the car would not go anywhere. It just revd. I was not getting on it or driving hard due to it being a test drive. Some transmission fluid was on the road. Everything seemed fine. The axles were still in place. But no car will not go into any gear. I put it in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, and reverse. Let of the clutch and nothing happens. No stall, but it will rev. I am completely locked out of 5th gear.
What side of the car was the transmission fluid on the road? I'm guessing that it was the driver side? Only because you stated that that sides replacement went OK and you must have been able to remove the inboard side from the tranny case? When you installed the new axle on the driver side, did you make sure the 'snap ring' on the inboard shaft clicked into the differential fully?
Originally Posted by AdiosPantalones
could me pulling the axles out cause any sort of damage to the transmission?
what are everyone’s thought?
If you tried 'pulling' the inboard or outboard passenger side CV joint to remove, you may have accidently dislodged it within the boot; however, I'm not sure what you were doing at this point. One should try to 'pry' the axles out with a flathead screwdriver or pry bar rather then 'pulling' on the joint.
Just to clarify, when you say the passenger side 'axle was stuck on the hub' do you mean the inboard side was 'stuck' on the intermediate shaft or the outboard side was 'stuck' in the knuckle??
What side of the car was the transmission fluid on the road? I'm guessing that it was the driver side? Only because you stated that that sides replacement went OK and you must have been able to remove the inboard side from the tranny case? When you installed the new axle on the driver side, did you make sure the 'snap ring' on the inboard shaft clicked into the differential fully?
If you tried 'pulling' the inboard or outboard passenger side CV joint to remove, you may have accidently dislodged it within the boot; however, I'm not sure what you were doing at this point. One should try to 'pry' the axles out with a flathead screwdriver or pry bar rather then 'pulling' on the joint.
The passenger side axle was stuck on the knuckle. I took off the 36mm nut and hit it with a mallet and it wouldn’t budge. I hit the drivers side 2 times and it came out with no problem.
When end I was calling it a day and putting everything back together, I looked over everything and made sure no boots were torn, snap rings were fully engaged and everything was in order.
When end I was removing the axles from the transmission I used a long pry bar. The drivers side came out easy.
Mans for the transmission fluid, it was the driver side. Which is what didn’t make sense to me because the axle was fully in.
Thanks for the detailed response. In short, as mentioned above I would bet that the inboard driver side axle shaft that goes into the differential 'popped' out and was not fully seated as you thought. That would explain the leaked Trans fluid on the road.
Originally Posted by AdiosPantalones
The passenger side axle was stuck on the knuckle. I took off the 36mm nut and hit it with a mallet and it wouldn’t budge. I hit the drivers side 2 times and it came out with no problem.
Next time you attempt the axle replacement, make sure to spray / douche the inner and outer shaft area of the knuckle with penetrating lube to help free it up. Then loosen the axle nut all the way out until it is even with the end of the axle shaft, this will protect the threads from the blow(s) of the mallet you will need to inflict. It should dislodge with some mechanical persuasion.
Originally Posted by AdiosPantalones
When end I was calling it a day and putting everything back together, I looked over everything and made sure no boots were torn, snap rings were fully engaged and everything was in order.
One way to check if the inboard 'snap rings' have engaged, after installation, is to physically grab the inboard joint casing, make a circular movement while trying to pull it out. Sometime you don't hear the distinctive 'click', upon installation, and that would work to verify that it is secure.
Originally Posted by AdiosPantalones
When end I was removing the axles from the transmission I used a long pry bar. The drivers side came out easy.
Sometimes the inboard sides can be stubborn. If one refuses to come out by 'prying', turn it 1/4 way or so and try to pry again, usually you will have 'joy'.
Originally Posted by AdiosPantalones
Mans for the transmission fluid, it was the driver side. Which is what didn’t make sense to me because the axle was fully in.
As mentioned, this is probably where your axle has popped out of the diff.
Finally got the baby down for a nap and had the chance to go out, get the car on stands and take a better look. It did indeed pop out. From the angle I saw it looked good but if you looked from the bottom you could see that it was out just enough. I will be getting the car back on stands tomorrow after work to pull the axle back out and make sure there was no damage done.
As for 5th gear, I am not locked out. I have to be really slow and gentle when going into it because it skips over and goes to the reverse side which is why of course I couldn’t go up.
Only because you stated that that sides replacement went OK and you must have been able to remove the inboard side from the tranny case? When you installed the new axle on the driver side, did you make sure the 'snap ring' on the inboard shaft clicked into the differential fully?
One should try to 'pry' the axles out with a flathead screwdriver or pry bar rather then 'pulling' on the joint.
Sometimes the inboard sides can be stubborn. If one refuses to come out by 'prying', turn it 1/4 way or so and try to pry again, usually you will have 'joy'.
