07 TL-S 6MT - Shifting Problems
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07 TL-S 6MT - Shifting Problems
At times, when shifting into 3rd gear, it seems to get stuck... as soon as I let my foot off of the clutch it grinds and usually pops out of gear. Sometimes it will grind a little but still slip into gear. The clutch is pressed all the way in; this problem seems to occur more when it's cold or wet outside... but does still happen in dry weather.
I had an 2006 TL 6MT before, I took it back to the dealer for this same problem. They replaced the transmission fluid which did the trick... it was like driving a different car. I took my 07 TLS back in for it's first oil change and told them I was having the same problem with this one. Apparently there's a service bulletin out that says to replace the transmission fluid. The dealer told me that they did (although I really have no way of knowning) but I'm still experiencing this problem.
I saw on a couple other posts that TL owners have used other types on transmission fluid, such as "GM syncro"? Is this what I should have them put in? Any idea what causes this issue? Is it just crappy transmission fluid? Any help/advice would be appreciated.
I had an 2006 TL 6MT before, I took it back to the dealer for this same problem. They replaced the transmission fluid which did the trick... it was like driving a different car. I took my 07 TLS back in for it's first oil change and told them I was having the same problem with this one. Apparently there's a service bulletin out that says to replace the transmission fluid. The dealer told me that they did (although I really have no way of knowning) but I'm still experiencing this problem.
I saw on a couple other posts that TL owners have used other types on transmission fluid, such as "GM syncro"? Is this what I should have them put in? Any idea what causes this issue? Is it just crappy transmission fluid? Any help/advice would be appreciated.
Pro
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There is tons of threads on this issue, do a search.
BTW I have the same problem on my 07 TL-S, I feel for it now and know when its about to happen, just this morning it happened once, the shifter hit that wall going into third and if I wouldve released the clutch... well you know. I am going to see what they will do when i go in for my first oil change, I am going to ask for GM syncro fluid.
Also i think it happens more when you dont push the clutch ALL THE WAY DOWN.
This is annoying however because when driving you dont want to have to feel for the clutch hitting bottom everytime
BTW I have the same problem on my 07 TL-S, I feel for it now and know when its about to happen, just this morning it happened once, the shifter hit that wall going into third and if I wouldve released the clutch... well you know. I am going to see what they will do when i go in for my first oil change, I am going to ask for GM syncro fluid.
Also i think it happens more when you dont push the clutch ALL THE WAY DOWN.
This is annoying however because when driving you dont want to have to feel for the clutch hitting bottom everytime
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Cool, thanks for the reply, I figured there were but when I went to search, it said I needed to be logged in... I was infact logged in but I just activated my account today, maybe that had something to do with it.
They must have put a high end tranny fluid in my 06 TL because I noticed an immediate improvement when I picked it up. Of course, I was trading it in a few days later and they knew that. Think I am going to call and get it back in there for service... Other than the 3rd gear issue, I haven't had any other problems with it. As I knock on wood....
Thanks again Evan
They must have put a high end tranny fluid in my 06 TL because I noticed an immediate improvement when I picked it up. Of course, I was trading it in a few days later and they knew that. Think I am going to call and get it back in there for service... Other than the 3rd gear issue, I haven't had any other problems with it. As I knock on wood....
Thanks again Evan
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i spoke to a technician in acura dealer today. he was saying that it's not the transmission fluid. it has to do with clutch synchronizer. it needs to bring it in before further problems occur.
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I have bought 2008 Acura TL type S and i have experienced problems when trying to shift in to third gear. It's just sometimes it won't go in and you really have to force it. Some times it will pop back into nuetral and some times it the car will grind gears. I have taken back to the dealer one time and they said that the car was not grinding gears and shifted into third perfectly fine. But i still receive problems with it even when i took it off the lot right after they told me. i have tried to live with it but i just cant take it any more. I had to pay a lot for this car. I have driven stick since i was 16 and have never had a problem like this with my Chevorlet, Nissan, and Volkswagon. Has anyone experienced this and had a dealer that has fixed this. I want to know what to say so i can get it fixed. I bought mine from Karen Radley Acura in Woodbridge VA
2005TL(6MT)
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6spdtls and camaro28z do yourselves a favor and search as evanj5 recommends. There is much discussion about the problem with most solved by changing the manual transmission fluid type.
Specifically the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified manual transmission fluid is the one that seems to always resolve the problem. I believe some have had success with one or two other types but not always.
Many have had the syncro(s) replaced or the transmission rebuilt only to have the same problem and not after any length of time. Right away! Some might have had luck with the dealer work but many have had additional problems just because of service being done on their car.
It's not just some TL's with the third gear problem. Some other Hondas also have it. I think this fix came from a S2000 forum where years of use of the GMSM-FM fluid have shown no ill effects.
I practice what I preach. I had the same problem on my '05 TL and changed to the GMSM-FM MT fluid a few months after buying it new. The car had something like 1,000 miles on it at the time (now with about 15,000 on the same fluid). The problem went away and didn't even re-occur once. It's perfectly smooth in every gear!
Here's the part number and a great "how to do it" link from one of our members:
GMSM-FM # 12377916
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=12377916
Specifically the GM Synchromesh Friction Modified manual transmission fluid is the one that seems to always resolve the problem. I believe some have had success with one or two other types but not always.
Many have had the syncro(s) replaced or the transmission rebuilt only to have the same problem and not after any length of time. Right away! Some might have had luck with the dealer work but many have had additional problems just because of service being done on their car.
It's not just some TL's with the third gear problem. Some other Hondas also have it. I think this fix came from a S2000 forum where years of use of the GMSM-FM fluid have shown no ill effects.
I practice what I preach. I had the same problem on my '05 TL and changed to the GMSM-FM MT fluid a few months after buying it new. The car had something like 1,000 miles on it at the time (now with about 15,000 on the same fluid). The problem went away and didn't even re-occur once. It's perfectly smooth in every gear!
Here's the part number and a great "how to do it" link from one of our members:
GMSM-FM # 12377916
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=12377916
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2005TL(6MT)
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Voiding the warrantee is a valid concern. I think the answer is no but you'll have determine that for yourself. Read some of the threads or may be call Acura.
There are posts stating some dealers are using the GM stuff and other posts indicating it could void the transmission warranty as per their dealer. I don't think anyone using the GM fluid has had a MT transmission problem that was not warranted though. The owners manual states something like if the Honda/Acura fluid is not available, if you have a problem, that certain weight motor oil (30?) can be used until it can be replaced with Honda/Acura fluid.
Any way most people believe it will not cause a problem. The GMSM-FM is a good quality fluid, like many others, but has the correct properties to solve the third gear problem. I think 100% of the people using it are very happy. Many as a last resort and many wishing they had done it sooner.
There are posts stating some dealers are using the GM stuff and other posts indicating it could void the transmission warranty as per their dealer. I don't think anyone using the GM fluid has had a MT transmission problem that was not warranted though. The owners manual states something like if the Honda/Acura fluid is not available, if you have a problem, that certain weight motor oil (30?) can be used until it can be replaced with Honda/Acura fluid.
Any way most people believe it will not cause a problem. The GMSM-FM is a good quality fluid, like many others, but has the correct properties to solve the third gear problem. I think 100% of the people using it are very happy. Many as a last resort and many wishing they had done it sooner.
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here we go again....
Originally Posted by phillyb1019
At times, when shifting into 3rd gear, it seems to get stuck... as soon as I let my foot off of the clutch it grinds and usually pops out of gear. Sometimes it will grind a little but still slip into gear. The clutch is pressed all the way in; this problem seems to occur more when it's cold or wet outside... but does still happen in dry weather.
Originally Posted by 6spdtls
i spoke to a technician in acura dealer today. he was saying that it's not the transmission fluid. it has to do with clutch synchronizer. it needs to bring it in before further problems occur.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
The topic was about "hard data" on the GM stuff and keeping a car a long time.
Originally Posted by Adobeman in another thread
I hear you about keeping a car for 10 years and I shared the same concerns over no "hard" data. But then I thought about it this way:
1. I had tried the new improved fluid. It made things worse
2. I was often putting more pressure than I liked on the shifter to get 3rd to engage.
3. I often had to pull back and re-engage
4. Clashing 3rd was also more common since 3rd gear was always a mystery as to if it would engage.
5. I called Redline and they said their MTL would be fine but they also had no tests to back it.
6. I thought, I'm going to own this car for 9 to 10 years. Will the 3rd gear syncros take this abuse this long?
7. Again I thought, I'm going to own this car for 9 to 10 years. Will I take this $hit for that long?
So I tried the GM Friction modified. It is as good as all the people say (anecdotally of course ). It's a calculated risk. I plan to change it every 15Km. That's only once every 2 years for me. It's cheap and easy.
The car has shifted perfectly ever since. I'm prepared for the financial risk of a gearbox failure but I'm not losing any sleep. I'm convinced that if I had kept with the OE fluid I would end up destroying 3rd in a few years or been generally a majorly grumpy SOB all the time. Perfect shifting and being happy, worth the risk.
That said, I'm always open to anything new that comes along that might perform as well and have the hard tests to back it up. So far, that's nothing Honda/Acura makes in an MTF.
So again, calculated risk. Easy task right in my own garage. I realize that not everyone has this option.
1. I had tried the new improved fluid. It made things worse
2. I was often putting more pressure than I liked on the shifter to get 3rd to engage.
3. I often had to pull back and re-engage
4. Clashing 3rd was also more common since 3rd gear was always a mystery as to if it would engage.
5. I called Redline and they said their MTL would be fine but they also had no tests to back it.
6. I thought, I'm going to own this car for 9 to 10 years. Will the 3rd gear syncros take this abuse this long?
7. Again I thought, I'm going to own this car for 9 to 10 years. Will I take this $hit for that long?
So I tried the GM Friction modified. It is as good as all the people say (anecdotally of course ). It's a calculated risk. I plan to change it every 15Km. That's only once every 2 years for me. It's cheap and easy.
The car has shifted perfectly ever since. I'm prepared for the financial risk of a gearbox failure but I'm not losing any sleep. I'm convinced that if I had kept with the OE fluid I would end up destroying 3rd in a few years or been generally a majorly grumpy SOB all the time. Perfect shifting and being happy, worth the risk.
That said, I'm always open to anything new that comes along that might perform as well and have the hard tests to back it up. So far, that's nothing Honda/Acura makes in an MTF.
So again, calculated risk. Easy task right in my own garage. I realize that not everyone has this option.
+1, For GM Synchromesh Friction Modified Fluid. That's what I'm running in my transmission currently. It has done wonders to shift feel. I've also noticed that when your car is cold (i.e., first thing in the morning), you are more likely to experience the problem betweeen 2nd and 3rd gear. Once the transmission and fluid warm-up, just like the engine, shifts seem to be smoother in general.
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I just took my TL-S into service and they also told me that there was a TSB that they change the fluid with a new *synthetic* fluid that came out about 6 months ago.
So far...no issues with third gear *knock on wood*
So far...no issues with third gear *knock on wood*
Originally Posted by Igor911
I just took my TL-S into service and they also told me that there was a TSB that they change the fluid with a new *synthetic* fluid that came out about 6 months ago.
So far...no issues with third gear *knock on wood*
So far...no issues with third gear *knock on wood*
TIA!
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Igor911 - Which dealership did you take your TLS to? I am from Hunt Valley... I had Frankel replace mine on the last oil change but I have a feeling they used regular MT fluid since I am still having this issue. I am looking into the GM fluid but I know the dealer will give me a hard time if I ask them to put it in. I have a buddy who works on Hondas, I may have him change it to the GM fluid for me.
I have the GM syncromesh fluid in my TL-S and I LOVE IT!! Ever since I did it I am so happy I did, made a huge difference in feel.
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Originally Posted by Igor911
I just took my TL-S into service and they also told me that there was a TSB that they change the fluid with a new *synthetic* fluid that came out about 6 months ago.
So far...no issues with third gear *knock on wood*
So far...no issues with third gear *knock on wood*
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I don't think there is an SB but rather an article in the Acura Service News. I'm also not sure the new "Acura Precision Crafted" MTF is synth. I think it isn't but I might be wrong.
Here is the service news. Last page http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/B060800.PDF
Either way the new stuff doesn't work for all. I had the same experience as Yakuza70
Here is the service news. Last page http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/B060800.PDF
Either way the new stuff doesn't work for all. I had the same experience as Yakuza70
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Originally Posted by phillyb1019
Igor911 - Which dealership did you take your TLS to? I am from Hunt Valley... I had Frankel replace mine on the last oil change but I have a feeling they used regular MT fluid since I am still having this issue. I am looking into the GM fluid but I know the dealer will give me a hard time if I ask them to put it in. I have a buddy who works on Hondas, I may have him change it to the GM fluid for me.
I went to Norris Acura on rt. 40. I plan on going back to them again, very nice service done.
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Cool, thanks Igor911 - I may try to schedule an appointment with Norris sometime this week. I've had bad luck with Frankel in the service dept... I had an 06 TL with stereo issues, the 3rd gear problem, and several other minor things that Frankel would not address. Well, until I went to trade the car in.... go figure. They won't be getting anymore of my $$$, no more service and I'm NOT buying another Acura from them.
B A N N E D
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Originally Posted by phillyb1019
Cool, thanks Igor911 - I may try to schedule an appointment with Norris sometime this week. I've had bad luck with Frankel in the service dept... I had an 06 TL with stereo issues, the 3rd gear problem, and several other minor things that Frankel would not address. Well, until I went to trade the car in.... go figure. They won't be getting anymore of my $$$, no more service and I'm NOT buying another Acura from them.
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
I don't think there is an SB but rather an article in the Acura Service News. I'm also not sure the new "Acura Precision Crafted" MTF is synth. I think it isn't but I might be wrong.
Here is the service news. Last page http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/B060800.PDF
Either way the new stuff doesn't work for all. I had the same experience as Yakuza70
Here is the service news. Last page http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/B060800.PDF
Either way the new stuff doesn't work for all. I had the same experience as Yakuza70
Have they indeed updated or created a new MTF since August of 2006?
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Originally Posted by Igor911
No matter what issue I had brought my car to them about, they always claim they "cannot duplicate the problem"...strange, eh?
Yup, I've heard that phrase myself on many occasions from Frankel. I made an appt with Norris for Sat morning, even making a appt there was a lot less of a hassle than with Frankel.
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Hi to All and THANK'S to all!!!!!!!!
I put GM Synchromesh Friction Modified manual transmission fluid after reading the threads and i just want to say to all,- JUST DO IT!!!!!!
I don't have a third gear problem any more. I have a 07 Tl-S.
ONCE AGAIN: JUST DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I put GM Synchromesh Friction Modified manual transmission fluid after reading the threads and i just want to say to all,- JUST DO IT!!!!!!
I don't have a third gear problem any more. I have a 07 Tl-S.
ONCE AGAIN: JUST DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Originally Posted by alikbriliant
Hi to All and THANK'S to all!!!!!!!!
I put GM Synchromesh Friction Modified manual transmission fluid after reading the threads and i just want to say to all,- JUST DO IT!!!!!!
I don't have a third gear problem any more. I have a 07 Tl-S.
ONCE AGAIN: JUST DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I put GM Synchromesh Friction Modified manual transmission fluid after reading the threads and i just want to say to all,- JUST DO IT!!!!!!
I don't have a third gear problem any more. I have a 07 Tl-S.
ONCE AGAIN: JUST DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
That is the usual reply after changing to the GMSM-FM fluid!
It's nice isn't it?
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Acura dealer authorized GM fluid
I have an 07 TL-Type S 6 spd and had the same problem with 3rd gear after about 3K miles. I brought it in to the dealer, who could not reproduce the problem, but were aware of it being a known issue with the 6 spd. I told them about the GM fluid and that it seemed like there was a consensus that this was the fix. I also told them I didn't want my car back until they diagnosed and made an effort to repair the problem. After a few days, even though they supposedly never reproduced the problem (happened to me 1-2/times/day), they nonetheless authorized use of the GM fluid. They drained the tranny and replaced the fluid with the GM synchromesh. The service dept had spoken with Acura tech support and it was agreed that this was the appropriate fix for now. Since the new fluid, have driven about 3K miles and haven't had a single problem. Who would have figured that GM made better tranny fluid than Honda/Acura? I am sure that really galls the Honda/Acura engineers.
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08 TL Type S
I have the 3rd gear problem so many of members have mentioned and yes it worse when its cold! My question is this, I have an 08 TL Type S doesn't this model year come factory with the new updated Synthetic fluid?
If this is true then taking it to the dealer will not do anything they will simply put the same fluid in I have trouble with? The Service news stated it was factory on all 07's.
Has anyone with an 08 had this problem fixed by the dealer by replacing the fluid? I do have a very early 08?
I am not against the GM Fluid its just if they will fix it for free I will save the money!
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Dan
If this is true then taking it to the dealer will not do anything they will simply put the same fluid in I have trouble with? The Service news stated it was factory on all 07's.
Has anyone with an 08 had this problem fixed by the dealer by replacing the fluid? I do have a very early 08?
I am not against the GM Fluid its just if they will fix it for free I will save the money!
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Dan
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hey Dan
mine is a 2008 TL type S. My dealer has not mentioned anything to me about a different type of fluid. mine started with the third gear issue back when i had under 2000 miles on is when i noticed it a lot. Now i have 4300 and have brought to my dealer twice and they keep claiming that there is no problem but there is. They have not fixed it with mine. i have had it since July 07.
mine is a 2008 TL type S. My dealer has not mentioned anything to me about a different type of fluid. mine started with the third gear issue back when i had under 2000 miles on is when i noticed it a lot. Now i have 4300 and have brought to my dealer twice and they keep claiming that there is no problem but there is. They have not fixed it with mine. i have had it since July 07.
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Originally Posted by camaro28z
hey Dan
mine is a 2008 TL type S. My dealer has not mentioned anything to me about a different type of fluid. mine started with the third gear issue back when i had under 2000 miles on is when i noticed it a lot. Now i have 4300 and have brought to my dealer twice and they keep claiming that there is no problem but there is. They have not fixed it with mine. i have had it since July 07.
mine is a 2008 TL type S. My dealer has not mentioned anything to me about a different type of fluid. mine started with the third gear issue back when i had under 2000 miles on is when i noticed it a lot. Now i have 4300 and have brought to my dealer twice and they keep claiming that there is no problem but there is. They have not fixed it with mine. i have had it since July 07.
The problem I have is when put in third it feels engaged but if you push the shifter harder with the clutch engaged it seats all the way in gear. If you don't push it all the way in firmly and you disengauge the clutch it will grind every so often. Is this the same problem you have?
Has the dealer Changed your fluid with the new updated stuff?
Thanks
Dan
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From: Manassas, VA
Originally Posted by Dan Millen
I just called the dealer and the service advisor told me he thought that all the 08's had the new fluid in them? He also said we should try changing the fluid to the update because there might be a chance that it has the old fluid in it? He didn't seem to confident in his response, I might buy the GM stuff today and see if it fixes it. I live in michigan and ever since its been colder I have had trouble with the third gear every morning for the first ten minutes.
The problem I have is when put in third it feels engaged but if you push the shifter harder with the clutch engaged it seats all the way in gear. If you don't push it all the way in firmly and you disengauge the clutch it will grind every so often. Is this the same problem you have?
Has the dealer Changed your fluid with the new updated stuff?
Thanks
Dan
The problem I have is when put in third it feels engaged but if you push the shifter harder with the clutch engaged it seats all the way in gear. If you don't push it all the way in firmly and you disengauge the clutch it will grind every so often. Is this the same problem you have?
Has the dealer Changed your fluid with the new updated stuff?
Thanks
Dan
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Originally Posted by camaro28z
that is exactly what mine does plus it will also pop back into nuetral. it happenes at least 3 to 5 times i drive the car on my 15 mile drive to work each way. I have no idea if it has the updated fluid in it. i can only assume it doesn't because i am experienceing the problem with it. i also have experienced that my battery dies a lot and i have been making sure that there is nothing left on when i turn the car off. has this happened to anyone?
I have the 08 type S and the dealer tech said all the 08's had the updated fluid in it. Rather than go back and forth with these guys I bought the GM stuff. I just didn't want to damage the trans it was grinding quite frequently.
I am and have been a long time Mustang guy and I have used the standard GM Syncromesh stuff in those trans for ever.
Change the fluid and be done with it, I give it a thumbs up!
Thanks
Dan
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06 MT Shifting problems
Gentlemen, I just signed onto Acurazine for the first time to get the answer for this issue. Bought a used 6 MT with 2k miles on it and have problems 3-5 times shifting into 3rd everytime I take the car out. It seems better after being on highway, but not perfect. Called Acura, and they had nothing to share other than to bring and have them look at it. I'll call them in the morning and advise about the GM Syncromesh fluid. Thanks a lot fellas, I'll sleep better soon.
Originally Posted by SeattleRacerX
I have an 07 TL-Type S 6 spd and had the same problem with 3rd gear after about 3K miles. I brought it in to the dealer, who could not reproduce the problem, but were aware of it being a known issue with the 6 spd. I told them about the GM fluid and that it seemed like there was a consensus that this was the fix. I also told them I didn't want my car back until they diagnosed and made an effort to repair the problem. After a few days, even though they supposedly never reproduced the problem (happened to me 1-2/times/day), they nonetheless authorized use of the GM fluid. They drained the tranny and replaced the fluid with the GM synchromesh. The service dept had spoken with Acura tech support and it was agreed that this was the appropriate fix for now. Since the new fluid, have driven about 3K miles and haven't had a single problem. Who would have figured that GM made better tranny fluid than Honda/Acura? I am sure that really galls the Honda/Acura engineers.
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As the back inside cover of my favorite magazine always says:
HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
END OF STORY.........
Moderators: Here's a thread you can close.
HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
END OF STORY.........
Moderators: Here's a thread you can close.
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From: Dearborn
Originally Posted by DMZ
As the back inside cover of my favorite magazine always says:
HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
END OF STORY.........
Moderators: Here's a thread you can close.
HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
END OF STORY.........
Moderators: Here's a thread you can close.
If you can see some of us are new to this forum, and since I didn't see any information about the 08 TL I wanted to see if any other 08's had the problem! Acura states all 08's have the new fluid!
You must still be interested since this thread caught your eye and you read both pages.
Isn't this what message boards are for?
Dan
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MT Trans Issue
THEN DON'T READ THE THREADS Mr. Congeniality. Logged on to this forum for first time yesterday and after reading the posts on the subject, simply thanks the forum for their input. Then we get your outburst...we all weren't here when u joined. Go back to kicking your dog.
Originally Posted by DMZ
As the back inside cover of my favorite magazine always says:
HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
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HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
END OF STORY.........
Moderators: Here's a thread you can close.
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6th Gear
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I started this thread because I recently joined and when I first logged on, the site told me I wasn't allowed to perform I search. Since that point, I see there are a ton of posts out there about this issue. However, I'm glad that I did start another thread about this, I find it very interesting that 08's are having the same problem. My question is when will Honda/Acura wake up and realize they have a design flaw with their manual transmissions?
I took mine to a dealer who at least admitted there was a issue with the MT, they told me that they put RL gear fluid in there to correct the problem? In any event, it was fine for about two days and then it started again. I'm going to the Chevy dealer down the street tomorrow and grabbing the GM fluid... I was hestitant at first due to warranty issues but I just want a car that shifts smoothly. Since so many have had good luck with the GM stuff here, I'm going to give it a try.
Slightly different topic - if anyone knows of a good Honda/Acura mechanic in the Baltimore area, please let me know. I'm sick of going back and forth with the dealers... Thanks in advance.
I took mine to a dealer who at least admitted there was a issue with the MT, they told me that they put RL gear fluid in there to correct the problem? In any event, it was fine for about two days and then it started again. I'm going to the Chevy dealer down the street tomorrow and grabbing the GM fluid... I was hestitant at first due to warranty issues but I just want a car that shifts smoothly. Since so many have had good luck with the GM stuff here, I'm going to give it a try.
Slightly different topic - if anyone knows of a good Honda/Acura mechanic in the Baltimore area, please let me know. I'm sick of going back and forth with the dealers... Thanks in advance.
The DVD-A Script Guy
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From: CT
Originally Posted by DMZ
As the back inside cover of my favorite magazine always says:
HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
END OF STORY.........
Moderators: Here's a thread you can close.
HERE WE GO WITH ANOTHER RIDICULOUS MAD FOLD-IN
If I see 1 more thread on this manual transmission shifting/fluid crap, I'm gonna throw up. This topic has been beaten to death over and over and over and over again on this forum. Enough already.
If you have a 6MT, just use the GM Syncromesh Friction Modified and be done with it!!!!!!
END OF STORY.........
Moderators: Here's a thread you can close.
I'm right with you on this DMZ. But these 6MT 3rd gear threads are like those old Seinfeld reruns.- You know the story ([kramer blasts in the door ] Jerry...it my car won't shift right. it just pops out....[kramer makes a pop noise and a funny face] )
- You know all the plot twists ([Jerry] better not put anything non-Acura in...remember the warranty-nazi....no warranty for you...)
- You know all the jokes ([kramer looking seriously] Jerry...we're talking dealers here...their not gonna cover it anyway [laugh track])
- You know the outcome ([all sitting in the diner] who would have thought such a simple thing like GM MTF would be so easy and so good)
'06 6MT WDP
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Originally Posted by Adobeman
I'm right with you on this DMZ. But these 6MT 3rd gear threads are like those old Seinfeld reruns.- You know the story ([kramer blasts in the door ] Jerry...it my car won't shift right. it just pops out....[kramer makes a pop noise and a funny face] )
- You know all the plot twists ([Jerry] better not put anything non-Acura in...remember the warranty-nazi....no warranty for you...)
- You know all the jokes ([kramer looking seriously] Jerry...we're talking dealers here...their not gonna cover it anyway [laugh track])
- You know the outcome ([all sitting in the diner] who would have thought such a simple thing like GM MTF would be so easy and so good)
That's hilarious! I have to agree. People really should search. 2 seconds and you would have tons of threads to read up on.
I switched to GM fluid about 9 months ago and immediately solved the problem. 3rd gear has NEVER grinded since the install.
Head a da Family
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From: New Friggin Jerzy
Originally Posted by Adobeman
I'm right with you on this DMZ. But these 6MT 3rd gear threads are like those old Seinfeld reruns.- You know the story ([kramer blasts in the door ] Jerry...it my car won't shift right. it just pops out....[kramer makes a pop noise and a funny face] )
- You know all the plot twists ([Jerry] better not put anything non-Acura in...remember the warranty-nazi....no warranty for you...)
- You know all the jokes ([kramer looking seriously] Jerry...we're talking dealers here...their not gonna cover it anyway [laugh track])
- You know the outcome ([all sitting in the diner] who would have thought such a simple thing like GM MTF would be so easy and so good)
One of faves is the one where Jerry's mechanic, Tony tells him he wants to do a complete engine overhaul, Jerry refuses, and then the mechanic dissappears with the car while Elaine's boss's golf clubs that used to belong to JFK were in the back seat.
Now if we could just have some of the residuals $$$ those guys are getting from all the reruns.............
On another Seinfeld note, I used to be friends with his wife's sister's ex-husband. That wedding was a laugh in itself if there ever was one. The guy actually resembled Jerry!! But Jerry's wife is cuter than her sister.